Comments on: My Mother The Aborted Embryo http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2005/08/22/my-mother-the-aborted-embryo/ Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:50:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Amy's Brain Today http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2005/08/22/my-mother-the-aborted-embryo/#comment-1898 Amy's Brain Today Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2005/08/22/my-mother-the-aborted-embryo/#comment-1898 Oh, but there IS a cure for reproduction--it's called lesbianism! Unfortunately even a lot of lesbians these days don't realize their good fortune...but I guarantee that lesbian sex isn't leading to any unplanned pregnancies. Oh, but there IS a cure for reproduction–it’s called lesbianism!

Unfortunately even a lot of lesbians these days don’t realize their good fortune…but I guarantee that lesbian sex isn’t leading to any unplanned pregnancies.

]]> By: ae http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2005/08/22/my-mother-the-aborted-embryo/#comment-1899 ae Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2005/08/22/my-mother-the-aborted-embryo/#comment-1899 Twisty, honestly, this photo is too much! Genius. And I'm w/ Guenther that fetal ovaries being tapped violates the rights of the "fetal donor," or whatever you would call the woman whose genes would be spread hither and yon w/o her consent/knowledge/etc. This is deeply creepy, and the concept of a "fetal mother" has got to be the most patriarchally reductive biological determinism I've ever seen. Twisty, honestly, this photo is too much! Genius.

And I’m w/ Guenther that fetal ovaries being tapped violates the rights of the “fetal donor,” or whatever you would call the woman whose genes would be spread hither and yon w/o her consent/knowledge/etc. This is deeply creepy, and the concept of a “fetal mother” has got to be the most patriarchally reductive biological determinism I’ve ever seen.

]]> By: res publica http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2005/08/22/my-mother-the-aborted-embryo/#comment-1900 res publica Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2005/08/22/my-mother-the-aborted-embryo/#comment-1900 That photograph is my new favorite thing. Also, I'm carving "JVNNIVS ROBERTVS FVCTARDVS EST" over my bathroom door this evening. Great post, as ever, on an uber-creepy subject. The world is chock-full o' people, and they all seem to be reproducing quite successfully. Even America is getting a little crowded. The future of the species certainly does not seem to be in question (at least not because of reproduction) So what possible motivation could be behind such research? I think you got it exactly right. The point is to allow men to do the one thing they have not heretofore been able to do on their own - namely, make other men. Imagine the bold new frontiers that would open up for patriarchy if they didn't need bitches at all! All kidding aside, the implications are fairly horrifying. For those science fiction fans among you, think of the fate of the Tlielaxu women in Frank Herbert's Dune novels: reduced to mere tanks for the manufacture of genetically engineered products by a highly religious patriarchal society. What I want to know is, who are these scientists who have apparently never taken an ethics class? Or, like, seen a Frankenstein movie? That photograph is my new favorite thing. Also, I’m carving “JVNNIVS ROBERTVS FVCTARDVS EST” over my bathroom door this evening. Great post, as ever, on an uber-creepy subject. The world is chock-full o’ people, and they all seem to be reproducing quite successfully. Even America is getting a little crowded. The future of the species certainly does not seem to be in question (at least not because of reproduction) So what possible motivation could be behind such research? I think you got it exactly right. The point is to allow men to do the one thing they have not heretofore been able to do on their own - namely, make other men. Imagine the bold new frontiers that would open up for patriarchy if they didn’t need bitches at all! All kidding aside, the implications are fairly horrifying. For those science fiction fans among you, think of the fate of the Tlielaxu women in Frank Herbert’s Dune novels: reduced to mere tanks for the manufacture of genetically engineered products by a highly religious patriarchal society.

What I want to know is, who are these scientists who have apparently never taken an ethics class? Or, like, seen a Frankenstein movie?

]]> By: Kristen from MA http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2005/08/22/my-mother-the-aborted-embryo/#comment-1901 Kristen from MA Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2005/08/22/my-mother-the-aborted-embryo/#comment-1901 Twisty, you are fabulous! I would so make out with you. Twisty, you are fabulous! I would so make out with you.

]]> By: John M. Burt http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2005/08/22/my-mother-the-aborted-embryo/#comment-1902 John M. Burt Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2005/08/22/my-mother-the-aborted-embryo/#comment-1902 Eggs shouldn't be harvested from a fetus without the donor's consent, same as any other use of fetal tissue. If she signs off for the fetus to be used that way, what's the problem? If she doesn't like the idea, let the fetus be cremated with all the others. If you knew you were conceived with a donated egg, would you care that it came from a fetus, as opposed to an idealistic volunteer, or an underpaid hired donor, or a cadaver? An egg is an egg, so long as it's healthy. Same difference as with sperm for artificial insemination. Eggs shouldn’t be harvested from a fetus without the donor’s consent, same as any other use of fetal tissue. If she signs off for the fetus to be used that way, what’s the problem? If she doesn’t like the idea, let the fetus be cremated with all the others.

If you knew you were conceived with a donated egg, would you care that it came from a fetus, as opposed to an idealistic volunteer, or an underpaid hired donor, or a cadaver? An egg is an egg, so long as it’s healthy. Same difference as with sperm for artificial insemination.

]]> By: Twisty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2005/08/22/my-mother-the-aborted-embryo/#comment-1903 Twisty Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2005/08/22/my-mother-the-aborted-embryo/#comment-1903 1. The whole point of the Israeli research is to effect a situation where there <i>is</i> no consent. There's a whole passel of remarks on this issue in the comments to this post at Dr. B's (see cross-post link, above) 2. Lesbianism doesn't cure reproduction, alas. 1. The whole point of the Israeli research is to effect a situation where there is no consent.

There’s a whole passel of remarks on this issue in the comments to this post at Dr. B’s (see cross-post link, above)

2. Lesbianism doesn’t cure reproduction, alas.

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