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Oct 27 2005

Smart Fat Married Chicks: “Me Not So Horny”

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A day without one of these stupid studies that show how women are somehow deficient or funky or odd, especially when it comes to sex, is like a day without pork mole tacos. So you can imagine how I flew into transports (a phrase I picked up in a fantasy novel) upon discovering this Canadian study, which finds that women with university educations, women who are married, and women who cut a robust figure all have lower sex drives than skinny, single, high school dropouts.

As the female "sex drive" is of paramount importance to a male-dominated society in which women are the sex class, studies revealing to a grateful nation which babes are most likely to put out after dancing the naked lambada on the table at Applebee’s are always popular.

29 comments

  1. Q Grrl

    They went out looking for women with “sexual problems”, what did they expect to find? Duh.

  2. nina

    …found 55 per cent of respondents had at least one of three concerns about sexual function: low desire, pain during sex and infrequent orgasm during intercourse.

    Does anyone have frequent orgasms during intercourse? Isn’t that why we all learned about our clitorises, and bought magic wands and all of that?

  3. Q Grrl

    … I’m having a really hard time finding the actual CJHS article/study regarding this.

  4. robin

    I have to go along w/Mandos-Mandos-Mandos and express my annoyance with “studies” in which the investigators appear to have no understanding of how statistics should be used as tool to understand causality.
    Everywhere I look, there are Studies or Polls or Experiments which come to great crashing conclusions based on ridiculously small sample size, unbelievable lack of control of the variables involved, and idiotic interpretations of results.
    How did these investigators measure “sex-drive”? If it was only based on how often these women have sex, than I say, Fie on y’all, and turn in your PhD immediately and go back to kindergarten.
    I’m always curious see a list of the variables which were controlled for in studies like these. By what method were the subjects’ responses obtained?
    etc. etc.
    Twisty: I love the term “the sex class”. I am now ruined because everywhere I go I see signs of the truth of that statement..
    It’s causing an unhealthy level of fuming!

  5. Delphyne

    It is interesting the the question never arises as to whether men are overinvested in sexual intercourse, as if the only right way for a human is to be highly sexed.

    Valerie Solanas had a few things to say about the phenomenon.

  6. Twisty

    Robin, please do not consider yourself “ruined” because you are no longer blind to the atrocities perpetrated by our system of white male dominance. Fuming at the patriarchy is the first step toward liberation, girlfriend!

    Delphyne, that’s why I love mocking these studies. “Male” is always considered the default human standard from which women can only deviate.

  7. speedbudget

    Um, did anybody take into account the fact that the higher education level a woman has, the better able she is to support herself, thus the more independent she can become, and thusly the less blinded by the patriarchy? In other words, all the high school drop outs I know are doing it all the time with guys cause they are hoping to “get a man” by putting out since they can’t support themselves. So is this what we are supposed to aspire to become? Vapid sex slaves with total dependence on some idiot who can’t even please us, but because of our lack of education, we are happy with what we get?

    Is there a question on that survey that says something like, “If you have a low sex-drive, is it because the idiot you are currently having sex with does not view your orgasm as a priority?” If not, I say, BAD SURVEY.

  8. cat

    Speedbudget asks:
    “So is this what we are supposed to aspire to become? Vapid sex slaves with total dependence on some idiot who can’t even please us, but because of our lack of education, we are happy with what we get?”

    Yes.
    This is what we are supposed to become. Why else publish endless studies about the freakish women who dont submit to the lifestyle you describe?

  9. Steph

    Woohoo! This study proves that I’m not a sexbot! WooHoo!

    Glad to know the PhD was good for something. Fucking patriarchy.

    Not that these researchers would notice since all they were interested in how often a woman used a part of her body that is obviously more important than her brain.

  10. Sylvanite

    Maybe college-educated women are less likely to fib about having orgasms during intercourse than uneducated women. It’s difficult for me to see how education-level would effect the ability to orgasm during intercourse. I remembre, possibly apropos of nothing, an interview in a men’s magazine (FHM, or some such) of five “hotties” who were posing in the magazine. All were young. They were being asked the usual titillating questions about how they like to “do it,” and one said that she had never orgasmed with a guy until her current boyfriend, and then only during oral sex. She seemed to think she was really abnormal for this!

  11. Sylvanite

    In the above comment, by “young” I mean 20 years old. Of course all the women who pose in these magazines are young, but some may actually be *gasp* over 30.

  12. Tony Patti

    With only the crudest and most male-centric forms of titillation to create and describe sexual desire, it’s a wonder that anyone enjoys sex under a patriarchy. Love will find a way, though.

    It’s illuminating to look back over my experiences and see how mundane and unsexy all the best sex I ever had often was. It was always highly emotional and had nothing unusual to distract me from the pureness of the act.

    It’s the titillation of desire that warps the expectations of a man about what constitutes great sex. Since you can’t rate emotion on a numeric and verifiable grid I never expect to see anything near the truth come out in any study on sexuality.

  13. Ancrene Wiseass

    Uh, I guess I’m an anomaly, according to this study? ‘Cause I’ve got a “robust figure” and a university education, and no problem with the sex drive atall. I’ll admit I’m not married, though. Maybe that’s what makes the difference?

    What a bunch of pseudo-scientific horseshit.

  14. Anonymous

    Like guys needed a study to tell them young, single, dumb, skinny chicks put out? Speaking as the smart, fat friend, I can tell you that guys already knew that.

    But seriously, can anyone tell me, what if any serious information is learned from studies like this? And if the answer is none, why do these things get funded?

  15. Summer

    Obviously, all the smart, fat women are too busy reading and shoving fistfuls of bacon into their mouths to be bothered with some dick’s erection.

    AIEEEEEEE. I fucking hate the patriarchy goddammit.

  16. binky

    Mmmmmm. Bacon.

  17. drublood

    Regarding the whole “correlation is not causation” thing. Yestarday I told my friend I was no longer going to get on the internet, because every time I get on the internet, women seem to lose more rights. Maybe if I stay off the internet, we will get our rights back?

    Maybe?

    Or maybe I’m just too fat to have a “thought drive” not to mention a “sex drive.” It’s a good thing I’m not married and don’t have a college education or I would have to wonder where these freaking children came from.

  18. yclepta

    well that’s such a revelation I am still in shock!!!!

  19. PrissyNot

    Mmmmmm, any kind of food I’m not “supposed” to have. Of course, now that we are post-menopausal, we limit those foods to the ones our doctor says we can’t have because of our blood pressure, i.e. SALT, and let it go at that. Otherwise, why worry? And I am married, and as a “full figured” woman (or just not the svelte 120 I used to be) I still manage to have sex, and good sex, with a husband who happens to just love me, so those “people” doing that study, can just go back to their little HUA syndrome lives and make up some more statistics. (HUA being head up ass syndrome.)

    :)

  20. Joolya

    working on your phd lowers your sex drive because you’re always freaking working – when i’m home and bored i have way more sex than when i’m in the lab all day and night. this has nothing to do with how much i enjoy or want sex!!!

  21. Denise

    To his credit, the researcher quoted in the article did indeed cite higher standards and busier lifestyles as possible reasons for women’s lower ‘sex drive’. I get the feeling that what was really studied was how often women have sex with a partner rather than how often they want to engage in sexual activity. If that’s the case, I almost feel that this study states the obvious: overworked and undervalued women are less likely to expend the effort to please someone else sexually, especially if they don’t expect to get much out of the experience.

  22. MsKate

    Too funny. As a somewhat wide-bodied (but fit)mid-aged mom finishing a PhD this year, I am wearing my partner out! Seems the more stressed I get, the quicker I get his clothes off.

    Then again, I was raised in a trailer. Mixing of effects?

    Or, maybe, women actually have individual preferences and orgasmic potential independent of external sociological variables? What a concept!

  23. beth

    no. university educated married fat women are smart and experienced enough to know that men find anything but the most underweight female form disgusting. as a university-educated soon-to-be-married fat woman, i can tell you that but for my luck in partners, i’d be the same way, claiming “not to be interested” when really, i just want to avoid emotional abuse and public ridicule while expressing sexuality as two kinds of female anaethma: smart and fat.

  24. sois disant

    Education and marriage maybe, but this study plainly ignores the advice I read a good many years ago in a Penthouse letter written by a hefty mama who exhorted the (male) readership to not ignore the larger offerin’s out there, since “the sign of one appetite is sure to be the sign of another…”

  25. Twisty

    It’s a good thing I’m not married and don’t have a college education or I would have to wonder where these freaking children came from.

    Ha!

  26. Anonymous

    single, high school dropouts have more time.

  27. CJ

    The day I got my masters degree my mother said, and I kid you not, “Congratulations, honey. You’ve now educated yourself out of ever getting married.” I think she thought she was being funny but obviously Mom knew all about the education/sex connection long before this study!!

    Why must there always be something “wrong” with the women? How about fat/lazy/can’t be arsed to initiate the sex but happy to complain about not getting any husbands having something to do with it?

  28. mskate

    Oh, by the way, that graphic with the sow dancer is just completely histerical. Her dance sort of reminds me of Catherine Bosley with three more grapfruit inserts: http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/002125.html

  29. Echo

    Yes, the “study” is very annoying, and most likely inaccurate, however, why all the bashing against, um, well, me. I’m young, skinny, un-educated (not stupid), single, and I have a healthy sex drive. So what?

    I’m not going to apologize for any of them except for the lack of education, which I’m working on, but it’s a bit difficult when your mummy and daddy aren’t helping. (That also might be why I’m skinny, come to think of it…)

    The way some of you are talking, you’ve all but called me an “anorexic whore”.

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