Comments on: In The Morning, In The Evening, Ain’t We Got Porn? http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/07/in-the-morning-in-the-evening-aint-we-got-porn/ Thu, 09 Sep 2010 06:08:28 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: mythago http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/07/in-the-morning-in-the-evening-aint-we-got-porn/#comment-8027 mythago Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:56:30 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=399#comment-8027 <i>Gay and lesbian publications stopped at Candian customs has happened for many years and was actually made illegal thanks to the Butler decision so often slandered by pornography defenders</i> Exactly where did the <i>Butler</i> decision make stopping such publications illegal? <i>Butler</i> restricted material 'demeaning to women'. (Though it hardly started with <i>Butler</i>.) Why is anyone surprised that the Customs agents were not queer-friendly feminists? <i>Porn is the man’s vibrator</i> Since men can't enjoy vibrators and no sexually-explicit material arouses women. Sheeziz. Gay and lesbian publications stopped at Candian customs has happened for many years and was actually made illegal thanks to the Butler decision so often slandered by pornography defenders

Exactly where did the Butler decision make stopping such publications illegal? Butler restricted material ‘demeaning to women’. (Though it hardly started with Butler.) Why is anyone surprised that the Customs agents were not queer-friendly feminists?

Porn is the man’s vibrator

Since men can’t enjoy vibrators and no sexually-explicit material arouses women. Sheeziz.

]]> By: Pinko Punko http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/07/in-the-morning-in-the-evening-aint-we-got-porn/#comment-8019 Pinko Punko Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:14:43 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=399#comment-8019 As someone not cursed with incessant and overriding wiener drive, I would suggest that just as the ol' libido drops off, there is a parallel demise in the ability of imagination to do the trick. The Patriarchy demands Instawank. As someone not cursed with incessant and overriding wiener drive, I would suggest that just as the ol’ libido drops off, there is a parallel demise in the ability of imagination to do the trick. The Patriarchy demands Instawank.

]]> By: Donna http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/07/in-the-morning-in-the-evening-aint-we-got-porn/#comment-8012 Donna Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:34:59 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=399#comment-8012 Why the concern over the availability of whackoff material? Use your imagination. That's what it's for. Why the concern over the availability of whackoff material? Use your imagination. That’s what it’s for.

]]> By: Twisty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/07/in-the-morning-in-the-evening-aint-we-got-porn/#comment-7985 Twisty Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:56:11 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=399#comment-7985 Well, it beats kiddie porn. Well, it beats kiddie porn.

]]> By: Chimp http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/07/in-the-morning-in-the-evening-aint-we-got-porn/#comment-7982 Chimp Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:31:04 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=399#comment-7982 So in the distant future, after perfect equality has been established, what will my great-great-great-grandsons be whacking off to? My guess is: telescope pointed at the beach. So in the distant future, after perfect equality has been established, what will my great-great-great-grandsons be whacking off to? My guess is: telescope pointed at the beach.

]]> By: Donna http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/07/in-the-morning-in-the-evening-aint-we-got-porn/#comment-7969 Donna Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:29:39 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=399#comment-7969 I don't think Patriarchy determines all aesthetic judgements either and your point about homosexuality is illustrative of that. As is the existence of guys who dig fat women and my own affinity for short stocky men. I think Patriarchy perverts, exploits, exaggerates, appropriates, or overrides natural human desires as needed to perpetuate its <i>unnatural</i>, moneymaking, woman hating, warmongering self. Then tells you it's natural. I hope THAT made sense! I don’t think Patriarchy determines all aesthetic judgements either and your point about homosexuality is illustrative of that. As is the existence of guys who dig fat women and my own affinity for short stocky men. I think Patriarchy perverts, exploits, exaggerates, appropriates, or overrides natural human desires as needed to perpetuate its unnatural, moneymaking, woman hating, warmongering self. Then tells you it’s natural. I hope THAT made sense!

]]> By: Becker http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/07/in-the-morning-in-the-evening-aint-we-got-porn/#comment-7964 Becker Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:05:58 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=399#comment-7964 Having recently seen the vilified French movie Baise-Moi, I readily recommend it for if nothing else the rape scene alone for those with the stomach for it. It is brilliantly brutal and hurts one's heart to watch, but it's kind of a backhanded education in how erotically rape is presented in just about every other film or television show. Having recently seen the vilified French movie Baise-Moi, I readily recommend it for if nothing else the rape scene alone for those with the stomach for it. It is brilliantly brutal and hurts one’s heart to watch, but it’s kind of a backhanded education in how erotically rape is presented in just about every other film or television show.

]]> By: Pinko Punko http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/07/in-the-morning-in-the-evening-aint-we-got-porn/#comment-7960 Pinko Punko Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:22:13 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=399#comment-7960 That is certainly patriarchy. People are encouraged that their entire lives are disposable. I mean women in the form of wives are disposable in the patriarchy, why not the living room? I live in a complex where people are constantly throwing out seemingly newish or nothing wrong with it furniture. Seems like calling Good Will is too much of a bother, but going to Ikea is clearly something for which time can be made. One more serious thought on aesthetics- it is clear that in the face of rampant Patriarchical opposition there still exists homosexuality, and not just in the two porn stars doing it solely for the benefit of Patriarchy. Given that there clearly exists a biological override of patriarchy for same-sex attraction, I think it is difficult to say how completely Patriarchy determines aesthetic judgements. I'm not arguing that it doesn't, I just think I come down closer to Mandos than the Twisty, although that is a thoughful sandwich I don't mind filling. Does that make any sense? That is certainly patriarchy. People are encouraged that their entire lives are disposable. I mean women in the form of wives are disposable in the patriarchy, why not the living room? I live in a complex where people are constantly throwing out seemingly newish or nothing wrong with it furniture. Seems like calling Good Will is too much of a bother, but going to Ikea is clearly something for which time can be made.

One more serious thought on aesthetics- it is clear that in the face of rampant Patriarchical opposition there still exists homosexuality, and not just in the two porn stars doing it solely for the benefit of Patriarchy. Given that there clearly exists a biological override of patriarchy for same-sex attraction, I think it is difficult to say how completely Patriarchy determines aesthetic judgements. I’m not arguing that it doesn’t, I just think I come down closer to Mandos than the Twisty, although that is a thoughful sandwich I don’t mind filling. Does that make any sense?

]]> By: Tony Patti http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/07/in-the-morning-in-the-evening-aint-we-got-porn/#comment-7929 Tony Patti Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:46:53 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=399#comment-7929 Rape in entertainment trivializes it to the point that it becomes something worthy of consideration for the casual malcontent, like shoplifting or joyriding. It has a "Hey, everyone else is doing it!" kind of effect on our young men when they see it happening constantly on TV. As I mentioned above, I find it hard to believe that punishment is a deterrent to crimes of passion, though if they castrated rapists <b>only on TV</b> we could easily learn, over the course of a decade, whether or not this particular punishment would be a deterrent without actually ever using the faulty and dangerous courts to see if it were true. We believe anything we see on TV, even that rape is a hum-drum, everyday occurence, like murder and all the other sexual exploitations of women. That would be a great way to test my theory: Just make it so <b>only</b> on TV! Rape in entertainment trivializes it to the point that it becomes something worthy of consideration for the casual malcontent, like shoplifting or joyriding. It has a “Hey, everyone else is doing it!” kind of effect on our young men when they see it happening constantly on TV.

As I mentioned above, I find it hard to believe that punishment is a deterrent to crimes of passion, though if they castrated rapists only on TV we could easily learn, over the course of a decade, whether or not this particular punishment would be a deterrent without actually ever using the faulty and dangerous courts to see if it were true. We believe anything we see on TV, even that rape is a hum-drum, everyday occurence, like murder and all the other sexual exploitations of women.

That would be a great way to test my theory: Just make it so only on TV!

]]> By: Tony Patti http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/07/in-the-morning-in-the-evening-aint-we-got-porn/#comment-7926 Tony Patti Mon, 09 Jan 2006 14:50:41 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=399#comment-7926 Any woman who has ever enjoyed a vibrator can understand the allure of pornography for men: It makes it easier to become aroused and to achieve orgasm for a man without any other more satisfying means of stimulation. Porn is the man's vibrator, and like it, can become addictive and even render normal sex less satisfying. Not always, but for many deluded souls, it can be the doorway to a warped view of life that happens to be marked by extremely patriarchal sleazebag assumptions about men and their roles and women and their roles. I too see a post-patriarchal utopia as a place where younger people have more sex, and older people are happy to let their sex drives abate. Can you imagine that? A world where men are completely comfortable having less and less sex as they grow older? Since I am an old guy myself, I'm constantly struggling with what society tells me I need to do to be a man. One of the messages - and I don't know where it comes from - is that I must maintain a high sex drive. Maybe it's some kind of fear of competition. But it's something I think is bad for me rather than healthy, though it might be a perfectly natural response to the inexorable passage of youth into decrepitude. Any woman who has ever enjoyed a vibrator can understand the allure of pornography for men: It makes it easier to become aroused and to achieve orgasm for a man without any other more satisfying means of stimulation. Porn is the man’s vibrator, and like it, can become addictive and even render normal sex less satisfying. Not always, but for many deluded souls, it can be the doorway to a warped view of life that happens to be marked by extremely patriarchal sleazebag assumptions about men and their roles and women and their roles.

I too see a post-patriarchal utopia as a place where younger people have more sex, and older people are happy to let their sex drives abate. Can you imagine that? A world where men are completely comfortable having less and less sex as they grow older?

Since I am an old guy myself, I’m constantly struggling with what society tells me I need to do to be a man. One of the messages – and I don’t know where it comes from – is that I must maintain a high sex drive. Maybe it’s some kind of fear of competition. But it’s something I think is bad for me rather than healthy, though it might be a perfectly natural response to the inexorable passage of youth into decrepitude.

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