Comments on: Profiles in Astonishing Ignorance http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/ Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:51:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: BritGirlSF http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9869 BritGirlSF Tue, 31 Jan 2006 06:05:25 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9869 This rather reminds me of the blowup at UC Berkeley a few years back when a bunch of whiny white guys started complaining about affirmative action and that they were not getting a fair shot at admittance, as "proven" by the fact that there are so many Asian students at UCB. Funny thing was, when someone actually ran the numbers what they found was that if afirmative action was removed the percentage of the student body that is Asian would actually go UP, not down. Why? Well, you see, if you want to get into college it kind of helps if you actually study and get good grades...didn't stop the whining, though. That particular subspecies of whiny white guy will ALWAYS be convinced that the reason he's not successful is that someone somewhere is conspiring against him rather than that he needs to get off his lazy ass and do some work. As far as the boy in MA is concerned - cry me a fucking river. If you're a middle class white boy in MA you're already in the luckiest, most privileged 5% or so of people in the planet. Quit the whining already. This rather reminds me of the blowup at UC Berkeley a few years back when a bunch of whiny white guys started complaining about affirmative action and that they were not getting a fair shot at admittance, as “proven” by the fact that there are so many Asian students at UCB. Funny thing was, when someone actually ran the numbers what they found was that if afirmative action was removed the percentage of the student body that is Asian would actually go UP, not down. Why? Well, you see, if you want to get into college it kind of helps if you actually study and get good grades…didn’t stop the whining, though. That particular subspecies of whiny white guy will ALWAYS be convinced that the reason he’s not successful is that someone somewhere is conspiring against him rather than that he needs to get off his lazy ass and do some work.
As far as the boy in MA is concerned - cry me a fucking river. If you’re a middle class white boy in MA you’re already in the luckiest, most privileged 5% or so of people in the planet. Quit the whining already.

]]> By: Blogger on the Cast Iron Balcony » Blog Archive » My dad’s a lawyer! http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9803 Blogger on the Cast Iron Balcony » Blog Archive » My dad’s a lawyer! Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:53:51 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9803 [...] Amanda at Pandagon and Aunt Twisty are kind of mad about it, but I don’t care about those feminists. And they use big words like “Gloucesterise”. Haven’t I just said I’m not into that studying and reading shit? No matter, I’ll just call them shrill. [...] […] Amanda at Pandagon and Aunt Twisty are kind of mad about it, but I don’t care about those feminists. And they use big words like “Gloucesterise”. Haven’t I just said I’m not into that studying and reading shit? No matter, I’ll just call them shrill. […]

]]> By: sunny in texas http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9751 sunny in texas Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:02:44 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9751 i'd like to point out a little tidbit. the kind of crap that is being spouted as being true of boys in high school IS true.. of boys in the first couple of grades of ELEMENTARY school. my son had the activity level of his bipolar older sister. which was constant wiggling. however, my son, much like all of humanity at one time or another GREW OUT OF IT! even the bipolars calmed down with age and regular whacks on the posterior when they got out of line. oh yeah, and i homeschooled mine. i know exactly of what i speak when i say if you can't get the boy to learn in that setting, then you have much bigger problems. if the kids do not respect the mother/teacher you can usually place the blame squarely on the misogynistic, disrespectful dealings of the patriarchal sperm donor. been there done that too. i’d like to point out a little tidbit. the kind of crap that is being spouted as being true of boys in high school IS true.. of boys in the first couple of grades of ELEMENTARY school.
my son had the activity level of his bipolar older sister. which was constant wiggling. however, my son, much like all of humanity at one time or another GREW OUT OF IT!

even the bipolars calmed down with age and regular whacks on the posterior when they got out of line.

oh yeah, and i homeschooled mine. i know exactly of what i speak when i say if you can’t get the boy to learn in that setting, then you have much bigger problems. if the kids do not respect the mother/teacher you can usually place the blame squarely on the misogynistic, disrespectful dealings of the patriarchal sperm donor.

been there done that too.

]]> By: VK http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9741 VK Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:34:21 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9741 Of course, it makes perfect sense for boys to have difficulty functioning in schools. Schools were designed back in the old days, when schools were solely for women and men weren't allowed to be educated. That's where all theses crazy ideas of not being an ignorant shit and not getting credit for only doing what you feel like come from. Idiot! Education systems were designed with boys in mind, and were a hell of a lot stricter and less creative before women turned up! Maybe we should invent a time machine and send them to a nice victorian grammer school. Of course, it makes perfect sense for boys to have difficulty functioning in schools. Schools were designed back in the old days, when schools were solely for women and men weren’t allowed to be educated. That’s where all theses crazy ideas of not being an ignorant shit and not getting credit for only doing what you feel like come from.

Idiot! Education systems were designed with boys in mind, and were a hell of a lot stricter and less creative before women turned up! Maybe we should invent a time machine and send them to a nice victorian grammer school.

]]> By: kathy a http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9705 kathy a Sun, 29 Jan 2006 03:27:47 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9705 ok, here is a more real story -- half the kids at this high school did not finish. http://www.latimes.com/news/education/la-me-dropout29jan29,0,6750397.story?coll=la-home-headlines i suspect the problems are not related in the least to the "i should get credit for sports" meanderings of some entitled persons. seems unlikely that these kids are getting anywhere near the attention of mr. "i don't like community service," although they might actually have something to complain about. ok, here is a more real story — half the kids at this high school did not finish.
http://www.latimes.com/news/education/la-me-dropout29jan29,0,6750397.story?coll=la-home-headlines

i suspect the problems are not related in the least to the “i should get credit for sports” meanderings of some entitled persons. seems unlikely that these kids are getting anywhere near the attention of mr. “i don’t like community service,” although they might actually have something to complain about.

]]> By: tigtog http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9702 tigtog Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:42:24 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9702 I blogged on poor little Dougie too. Apparently he hasn't even been in the public school system all through, yet his dad is setting up as an advocate for the unfair treatment meted out to all boys because his son not only fucked up at private school and wouldn't work when homeschooled, but still doesn't work in the public school system. And someone from Milton with the exact same name as daddy dear ran for MA State Senate in 1988. Ramping up a public profile perhaps, Mr Anglin? I blogged on poor little Dougie too. Apparently he hasn’t even been in the public school system all through, yet his dad is setting up as an advocate for the unfair treatment meted out to all boys because his son not only fucked up at private school and wouldn’t work when homeschooled, but still doesn’t work in the public school system. And someone from Milton with the exact same name as daddy dear ran for MA State Senate in 1988. Ramping up a public profile perhaps, Mr Anglin?

]]> By: kathy a http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9686 kathy a Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:56:07 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9686 cafe siren -- that's a point. and, i've seen a few such entitled boys in real-life jobs, expecting that their innate coolness and myriad interests are enough to make up for work expectations, too. twice, in professional jobs, i was expected to train inexperienced and entitled boys who were hired for more than i was then making. another time, i supervised an entitled boy who caused a lot more trouble than he was worth. i could, of course, ramble on with more detail and more examples, but the topic makes me tired. life experiences, in my opinion, do count for something. volunteer and community service work, dealing with major family crises, even holding jobs where one is expected to work to certain standards -- all that counts somewhere. mr. "community service requirements are unfair" has probably not earned *any* life credits in those categories. if someone has managed to accomplish verifiable and productive things in life without a college education -- a few years of managing a challenging job, for example -- i don't have a problem with granting a few academic credits for that. "i signed up for soccer and baseball in high school" is not even in the same universe of "life experience." and yeah -- all this ranting is out the window if daddy has junior lined up to take over the family business, or if daddy can line up a cush job with one of his buddies. cafe siren — that’s a point. and, i’ve seen a few such entitled boys in real-life jobs, expecting that their innate coolness and myriad interests are enough to make up for work expectations, too. twice, in professional jobs, i was expected to train inexperienced and entitled boys who were hired for more than i was then making. another time, i supervised an entitled boy who caused a lot more trouble than he was worth. i could, of course, ramble on with more detail and more examples, but the topic makes me tired.

life experiences, in my opinion, do count for something. volunteer and community service work, dealing with major family crises, even holding jobs where one is expected to work to certain standards — all that counts somewhere. mr. “community service requirements are unfair” has probably not earned *any* life credits in those categories.

if someone has managed to accomplish verifiable and productive things in life without a college education — a few years of managing a challenging job, for example — i don’t have a problem with granting a few academic credits for that. “i signed up for soccer and baseball in high school” is not even in the same universe of “life experience.”

and yeah — all this ranting is out the window if daddy has junior lined up to take over the family business, or if daddy can line up a cush job with one of his buddies.

]]> By: CafeSiren http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9681 CafeSiren Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:47:04 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9681 "neither his college nor many workplaces are likely to think “i should get credit for what i want to do” meets their standards." Actually, you may be wrong about this, at least in part: witness the many diploma mills that offer course credit for "life experience." “neither his college nor many workplaces are likely to think “i should get credit for what i want to do” meets their standards.”

Actually, you may be wrong about this, at least in part: witness the many diploma mills that offer course credit for “life experience.”

]]> By: thebewilderness http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9667 thebewilderness Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:44:11 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9667 Kathy is describing the lessons that women learn in life. This young man is a perfect example of what men learn. If you complain long enough and loud enough, if you unquestioningly believe you are entitled to whatever you want, and blame others loud and long enough, you too can be a success in the patriarchy. Kathy is describing the lessons that women learn in life.
This young man is a perfect example of what men learn. If you complain long enough and loud enough, if you unquestioningly believe you are entitled to whatever you want, and blame others loud and long enough, you too can be a success in the patriarchy.

]]> By: Donna http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9658 Donna Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:05:49 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/27/profiles-in-astonishing-ignorance/#comment-9658 If he wants credit for his sports crap, then it's only fair that his female peers should get credit for the time they spend dieting and all other endeavors toward sexbottism. If he wants credit for his sports crap, then it’s only fair that his female peers should get credit for the time they spend dieting and all other endeavors toward sexbottism.

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