Comments on: In Which The Author Bottoms Out http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/28/in-which-the-author-bottoms-out/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:39:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bottoming from the Top, or: Do FemDoms Dream of Electric Toasters? : Dustin M. Wax http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/28/in-which-the-author-bottoms-out/#comment-186300 Bottoming from the Top, or: Do FemDoms Dream of Electric Toasters? : Dustin M. Wax Tue, 22 Nov 2011 04:35:01 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=437#comment-186300 [...] = [];}Twisty of I Blame the Patriarchy offers the flipside of my recent discussion of BDSM in two posts about the patriarchy-affirming nature of even the safest, sanest, and consensualist BDSM [...] [...] = [];}Twisty of I Blame the Patriarchy offers the flipside of my recent discussion of BDSM in two posts about the patriarchy-affirming nature of even the safest, sanest, and consensualist BDSM [...]

]]> By: Queerevolution http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/28/in-which-the-author-bottoms-out/#comment-173097 Queerevolution Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:56:19 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=437#comment-173097 “I want to be dominant in the way that COUNTS, not in a closed room with the shades pulled where it's recognized as safely disconnected from reality.” Domination in the real world, in a way that count, is the PROBLEM not the ANSWER : to want to be dominant is once again mimicking patriarchy ideology. I don't want a wolrd where women dominate men, or an "equality" world where there is the same proportion of dominating women and dominating men, the same chance for women and men of being on top : I want domination to end, period. “I want to be dominant in the way that COUNTS, not in a closed room with the shades pulled where it’s recognized as safely disconnected from reality.”

Domination in the real world, in a way that count, is the PROBLEM not the ANSWER : to want to be dominant is once again mimicking patriarchy ideology. I don’t want a wolrd where women dominate men, or an “equality” world where there is the same proportion of dominating women and dominating men, the same chance for women and men of being on top : I want domination to end, period.

]]> By: Dim Undercellar http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/28/in-which-the-author-bottoms-out/#comment-9931 Dim Undercellar Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:39:02 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=437#comment-9931 I'm just still amused and creeped out by the whole attitude that wearing a leather mask suddenly turns "I tied her down and beat her until she was in tears, because she asked for it" from <i>domestic abuse</i> into <i>feminist empowerment</i>. I’m just still amused and creeped out by the whole attitude that wearing a leather mask suddenly turns “I tied her down and beat her until she was in tears, because she asked for it” from domestic abuse into feminist empowerment.

]]> By: Crys T http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/28/in-which-the-author-bottoms-out/#comment-9877 Crys T Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:33:10 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=437#comment-9877 Elinor, you got that exactly right. The basic dynamic is exactly the same as mainstream society--it's just more explicitly presented and ritualised. I suppose one could argue that if BDSM is more explicit, it's therefore more honest. I can see that point, but if what it's being honest about is the same old shit, that's nothing to be proud of. Elinor, you got that exactly right. The basic dynamic is exactly the same as mainstream society–it’s just more explicitly presented and ritualised.

I suppose one could argue that if BDSM is more explicit, it’s therefore more honest. I can see that point, but if what it’s being honest about is the same old shit, that’s nothing to be proud of.

]]> By: M http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/28/in-which-the-author-bottoms-out/#comment-9874 M Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:51:58 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=437#comment-9874 Fuck Yeah! (sorry for lack of insightful comment, but hey, think 'Fuck Yeah!' is all that's needed) Fuck Yeah!

(sorry for lack of insightful comment, but hey, think ‘Fuck Yeah!’ is all that’s needed)

]]> By: Lorenzo http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/28/in-which-the-author-bottoms-out/#comment-9857 Lorenzo Tue, 31 Jan 2006 03:00:27 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=437#comment-9857 LMYC, <i>Which brings us to the lack of optimism. It’s been like this for roughly 1,000,000,000,00,000 years, so it’s not gonna change any time soon.</i> Well...there <i>are</i> some pretty good arguments that it is more like 10,000 years w.r.t gender and class, though that still makes your lack of optimism pretty understandable... LMYC,

Which brings us to the lack of optimism. It’s been like this for roughly 1,000,000,000,00,000
years, so it’s not gonna change any time soon.

Well…there are some pretty good arguments that it is more like 10,000 years w.r.t gender and class, though that still makes your lack of optimism pretty understandable…

]]> By: Kim http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/28/in-which-the-author-bottoms-out/#comment-9844 Kim Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:37:30 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=437#comment-9844 Oh my goodness, I do believe I am in love with that woman. SHE knows what true power really is - or should be. Then again, I would wear a corset for a little while if it meant I could flog Cheney and Bush for a little while, especially if their only response could be, "Thank you, may I have another, and oh, by the way, we're about to outlaw all the right-wing godbags and send them to their own island out in the middle of nowhere, us included." Oh my goodness, I do believe I am in love with that woman. SHE knows what true power really is – or should be.

Then again, I would wear a corset for a little while if it meant I could flog Cheney and Bush for a little while, especially if their only response could be, “Thank you, may I have another, and oh, by the way, we’re about to outlaw all the right-wing godbags and send them to their own island out in the middle of nowhere, us included.”

]]> By: kathy a http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/28/in-which-the-author-bottoms-out/#comment-9843 kathy a Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:18:38 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=437#comment-9843 i'm not saying this case is usual. but if the submissive person dies, and you understandably don't want him around anymore, and you get your boyfriend to cut the dude up and get rid of his body -- well, that doesn't seem to advance the cause much. any cause, as a matter of fact. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/01/30/national/a090948S05.DTL i’m not saying this case is usual. but if the submissive person dies, and you understandably don’t want him around anymore, and you get your boyfriend to cut the dude up and get rid of his body — well, that doesn’t seem to advance the cause much. any cause, as a matter of fact.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/01/30/national/a090948S05.DTL

]]> By: Elinor http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/28/in-which-the-author-bottoms-out/#comment-9837 Elinor Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:10:31 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=437#comment-9837 <i>Unfortunately the matter of desire comes into play. Both parties want to play the D/s game, and want a little desire. Sweatpants aren’t exactly the sexiest option - especially if you want to play in a club straight away, rather than gradually introducing it to a relationship.</i> But isn't this basically the same dynamic we see elsewhere? "You can look like that if you want, but men won't want you that way"? Men are "more visual" than women, etc., etc., etc. And somehow making ourselves "sexy" and visually appealing to men almost inevitably involves some degree of discomfort and restriction of OUR mobility, even when we are supposed to be "dominating." It doesn't bother me if some people enjoy acting out the corseted femme fatale shtick. It does irritate me when it's talked up as "transgressive" and "revolutionary" and a dramatic role reversal and all that. Unfortunately the matter of desire comes into play. Both parties want to play the D/s game, and want a little desire. Sweatpants aren’t exactly the sexiest option – especially if you want to play in a club straight away, rather than gradually introducing it to a relationship.

But isn’t this basically the same dynamic we see elsewhere? “You can look like that if you want, but men won’t want you that way”? Men are “more visual” than women, etc., etc., etc. And somehow making ourselves “sexy” and visually appealing to men almost inevitably involves some degree of discomfort and restriction of OUR mobility, even when we are supposed to be “dominating.”

It doesn’t bother me if some people enjoy acting out the corseted femme fatale shtick. It does irritate me when it’s talked up as “transgressive” and “revolutionary” and a dramatic role reversal and all that.

]]> By: Burrow http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/28/in-which-the-author-bottoms-out/#comment-9832 Burrow Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:21:59 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=437#comment-9832 <i>Well then how about it’s practitioners stop mouthing at me me how feminist and inherently transgressive and wonderful and earth-improving it is because “half of it is non-patriarchal?”</i> YAY!!! Your posts have filled me with happiness. You go with that attitude! Kick ass. Well then how about it’s practitioners stop mouthing at me me how feminist and inherently transgressive and wonderful and earth-improving it is because “half of it is non-patriarchal?”

YAY!!! Your posts have filled me with happiness. You go with that attitude! Kick ass.

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