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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/16/peta-has-their-head-up-their-ass/#comment-12110</link>
		<author>Kate</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamies Anderson of PETA in response the an email: "We feel that all people should be free to use their minds and bodies as political instruments to bring attention to animal suffering, and we appreciate any effort to help those who have no voice."


The irony of this statement seems lost on the writer.  In the interest of reducing or ending the exploitation of animals who are 'voiceless', they further engender and condone the use of and exploitation of women as nameless, faceless and voiceless tools of amusement and pleasure.

They have completely co-opted to the system that promulgates exploitation of all beings and completely lost their message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamies Anderson of PETA in response the an email: &#8220;We feel that all people should be free to use their minds and bodies as political instruments to bring attention to animal suffering, and we appreciate any effort to help those who have no voice.&#8221;</p>
<p>The irony of this statement seems lost on the writer.  In the interest of reducing or ending the exploitation of animals who are &#8216;voiceless&#8217;, they further engender and condone the use of and exploitation of women as nameless, faceless and voiceless tools of amusement and pleasure.</p>
<p>They have completely co-opted to the system that promulgates exploitation of all beings and completely lost their message.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/16/peta-has-their-head-up-their-ass/#comment-12106</link>
		<author>Dustin</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this ad some time back when the ad had supposedly been barred from airing, iirc, during the SUperbowl.  What struck me was that, although presented with the long "meat is murder" section online, there was no way they were going to buy a 3-minute commercial slot, especially during the Superbowl; the only part that could have ever been intended to air is the "milk gone wild" part.  I simply could not and cannot understand the point of that section.  "Girls are hot, girls are hot, girls are hot, whoa! they got udders! Ha!"  It's funny, I suppose, in a "yeah, all breasts are is udders" kinda way, but I fail to see the connection between this and abuses in the dairy industry.  And I fail to see how showing this ad will make anyone else, especially the target audience of people who aren't already sensitive to animal rights issues, any more knowledgable about these abuses or effective in combating them.

What I do see, however, is the connection between a patriarchal system that says that women are here solely for sexual and visual use by men and a patriarchal system that says that animals are here solely for use by "man".  The dominion over the one is intimitely tied to the dominion over the other.  This makes for nice cultural critique, but not PETA advocacy: by perpetuating the consumption of women as sexual objects, they are in effect perpetuating the consumption of animals and animal products as nutritional objects. By perpetuating the disregard for women as thinking, feeling, acting beings, they are in effect perpetuating the disregard for animals as, well, at least as feeling beings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this ad some time back when the ad had supposedly been barred from airing, iirc, during the SUperbowl.  What struck me was that, although presented with the long &#8220;meat is murder&#8221; section online, there was no way they were going to buy a 3-minute commercial slot, especially during the Superbowl; the only part that could have ever been intended to air is the &#8220;milk gone wild&#8221; part.  I simply could not and cannot understand the point of that section.  &#8220;Girls are hot, girls are hot, girls are hot, whoa! they got udders! Ha!&#8221;  It&#8217;s funny, I suppose, in a &#8220;yeah, all breasts are is udders&#8221; kinda way, but I fail to see the connection between this and abuses in the dairy industry.  And I fail to see how showing this ad will make anyone else, especially the target audience of people who aren&#8217;t already sensitive to animal rights issues, any more knowledgable about these abuses or effective in combating them.</p>
<p>What I do see, however, is the connection between a patriarchal system that says that women are here solely for sexual and visual use by men and a patriarchal system that says that animals are here solely for use by &#8220;man&#8221;.  The dominion over the one is intimitely tied to the dominion over the other.  This makes for nice cultural critique, but not PETA advocacy: by perpetuating the consumption of women as sexual objects, they are in effect perpetuating the consumption of animals and animal products as nutritional objects. By perpetuating the disregard for women as thinking, feeling, acting beings, they are in effect perpetuating the disregard for animals as, well, at least as feeling beings.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Elson</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/16/peta-has-their-head-up-their-ass/#comment-11962</link>
		<author>Julian Elson</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this animal welfare ad:

http://www.hfa.org/about/rabbits.pdf

It was put out by the Humane Farming Association, Animal Rights International, and Animal Welfare Institute. It was humorous (in a sort of ironic, incongruous way), informative, and certainly eye-catching. (it certainly caught my eye when I saw it in the New York Times, with the headline/picture mismatch)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this animal welfare ad:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hfa.org/about/rabbits.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.hfa.org/about/rabbits.pdf</a></p>
<p>It was put out by the Humane Farming Association, Animal Rights International, and Animal Welfare Institute. It was humorous (in a sort of ironic, incongruous way), informative, and certainly eye-catching. (it certainly caught my eye when I saw it in the New York Times, with the headline/picture mismatch)</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/16/peta-has-their-head-up-their-ass/#comment-11957</link>
		<author>zuzu</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;-not true. PETA have significant campaigns against leather,fur seems higher on their agenda because it is often â€˜raised and processedâ€™ in countries where even worse animal rights abuses take place. and none of their objectifying of women (though unacceptable) is because they hate women, it is because our society has developed in a way that if you want people to pay attention to what youâ€™ve got to say, tits work. Itâ€™s unfortunate, it should be stopped, but itâ€™s true.&lt;/i&gt;

I would give them a lot more credence on this issue if they were, say, throwing red paint on fur-wearing gangsta rappers instead of elderly socialites.  PETA activists recently threw flour on Paris Hilton and a designer who uses a lot of fur.  What about P.Diddy?  He wears fur.  Oh, but he has armed bodyguards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>-not true. PETA have significant campaigns against leather,fur seems higher on their agenda because it is often â€˜raised and processedâ€™ in countries where even worse animal rights abuses take place. and none of their objectifying of women (though unacceptable) is because they hate women, it is because our society has developed in a way that if you want people to pay attention to what youâ€™ve got to say, tits work. Itâ€™s unfortunate, it should be stopped, but itâ€™s true.</i></p>
<p>I would give them a lot more credence on this issue if they were, say, throwing red paint on fur-wearing gangsta rappers instead of elderly socialites.  PETA activists recently threw flour on Paris Hilton and a designer who uses a lot of fur.  What about P.Diddy?  He wears fur.  Oh, but he has armed bodyguards.</p>
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		<title>By: pissed off rants of the day at Buried Voices</title>
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		<author>pissed off rants of the day at Buried Voices</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve been following the comments section of the post on PETA at I Blame The Patriarchy. [Warning: random ranting follows.] It makes me sick the way PETA objectifies women. It also makes me sick when people rationalize PETA&#8217;s objectification of women by saying that animal rights and feminism unrelated issues. Animal rights is not just that issue. For people who really care about animal rights, it&#8217;s an issue of compassion, which can&#8217;t be so easily compartmentalized. Social justice in general is about compassion, not ideology! You can&#8217;t pick and choose to be compassionate on one issue and not compassionate on another, and still be compassionate. Why is it that women are continually on the list of items that can be compromised when the going gets tough, like office supplies and other frills? Why do we feel that it is okay to objectify women and make sexist jokes in any situation, for any cause? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I&#8217;ve been following the comments section of the post on PETA at I Blame The Patriarchy. [Warning: random ranting follows.] It makes me sick the way PETA objectifies women. It also makes me sick when people rationalize PETA&#8217;s objectification of women by saying that animal rights and feminism unrelated issues. Animal rights is not just that issue. For people who really care about animal rights, it&#8217;s an issue of compassion, which can&#8217;t be so easily compartmentalized. Social justice in general is about compassion, not ideology! You can&#8217;t pick and choose to be compassionate on one issue and not compassionate on another, and still be compassionate. Why is it that women are continually on the list of items that can be compromised when the going gets tough, like office supplies and other frills? Why do we feel that it is okay to objectify women and make sexist jokes in any situation, for any cause? [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: jennifer</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/16/peta-has-their-head-up-their-ass/#comment-11942</link>
		<author>jennifer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry -- &lt;a href="http://www.furisdead.com/page/ad-unattractive.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;this ad&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8212; <a href="http://www.furisdead.com/page/ad-unattractive.jpg" rel="nofollow">this ad</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: jennifer</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/16/peta-has-their-head-up-their-ass/#comment-11941</link>
		<author>jennifer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no issue with PETA, ideologically, but I never quite got over &lt;a&gt;" this ad&lt;/a&gt;.  That was the end of them getting my money. But I'm not sure why even I was surprised by this -- after all, their ads aren't aimed at people who are able to think. Like all ads. "Look -- here's something you already know -- run with it! Girls who don't shave are BAD!!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no issue with PETA, ideologically, but I never quite got over <a>&#8221; this ad</a>.  That was the end of them getting my money. But I&#8217;m not sure why even I was surprised by this &#8212; after all, their ads aren&#8217;t aimed at people who are able to think. Like all ads. &#8220;Look &#8212; here&#8217;s something you already know &#8212; run with it! Girls who don&#8217;t shave are BAD!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/16/peta-has-their-head-up-their-ass/#comment-11935</link>
		<author>kate</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember being introduced to PETA in the eighties, they had literature that focused solely on their issues at hand, not using women's bodies, but using more or less descriptions and photos of what really happens to animals.  I often think about those photos and they definately educated me.

I guess PETA hasn't gained enough mileage over the years by showing fur farms or boxed-in veal calves.  So they go for entertaining the patriarchy to make their point.

I fear they won't get much mileage as those who give the most attention will give little thought beyond, 'Look at the chic!" or "Shit, I'd love to do her!"

PETA appears to my observation, to be run by a frat house or possibly Tom Green of sucking udders fame, rather than individuals who have a true thinking argument to offer for their cause.

And yes, it smacks of the woeful division in our society of most protest groups, who split by the ingrained patriarchal pull of competition and can't seem to come together and work for a broader common good, with their issues interlinking.

Reminds me of when I was an activist for poor women's issues, us, the environmentalists and the gay rights folks were constantly pitted against eachother for funding, media attention or constituencies.  None would risk any little peice of the system in power that they had worked so hard to garner in order to assist the other.  

And likewise, none could see how their fighting over crumbs served only the status quo at the expense of all of them.

PETA is effectively engaging in the same; hogging the trough provided by the patriarchy when in reality if all groups put their strengths together, they could haul their own water and not need the 'powers that be'.  

PETA has lost its soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember being introduced to PETA in the eighties, they had literature that focused solely on their issues at hand, not using women&#8217;s bodies, but using more or less descriptions and photos of what really happens to animals.  I often think about those photos and they definately educated me.</p>
<p>I guess PETA hasn&#8217;t gained enough mileage over the years by showing fur farms or boxed-in veal calves.  So they go for entertaining the patriarchy to make their point.</p>
<p>I fear they won&#8217;t get much mileage as those who give the most attention will give little thought beyond, &#8216;Look at the chic!&#8221; or &#8220;Shit, I&#8217;d love to do her!&#8221;</p>
<p>PETA appears to my observation, to be run by a frat house or possibly Tom Green of sucking udders fame, rather than individuals who have a true thinking argument to offer for their cause.</p>
<p>And yes, it smacks of the woeful division in our society of most protest groups, who split by the ingrained patriarchal pull of competition and can&#8217;t seem to come together and work for a broader common good, with their issues interlinking.</p>
<p>Reminds me of when I was an activist for poor women&#8217;s issues, us, the environmentalists and the gay rights folks were constantly pitted against eachother for funding, media attention or constituencies.  None would risk any little peice of the system in power that they had worked so hard to garner in order to assist the other.  </p>
<p>And likewise, none could see how their fighting over crumbs served only the status quo at the expense of all of them.</p>
<p>PETA is effectively engaging in the same; hogging the trough provided by the patriarchy when in reality if all groups put their strengths together, they could haul their own water and not need the &#8216;powers that be&#8217;.  </p>
<p>PETA has lost its soul.</p>
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		<title>By: Burrow</title>
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		<author>Burrow</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;OK, yeah, if you carefuly plan a healty vegetarian diet it can be very healthy, however, how many teenaged girls just getting into vegetarianism actually do the research and plan a healthy diet and how many just stop eating meat?&lt;/i&gt;

I became a vegetarian at 12 (ethical reasons) and I so did not eat any sort of researched diet, mostly because my family refused to cook me anything other then the usual food, where I would only eat the vegetables.   (Lucky for me though my family is Italian, so we ate a lot of pasta anyway.)  I survived, without anemia, an active teenage life and sprung into a healthy adult (Veggie for 19 years!  WOOT!)  I am pleased to say that I have a functioning healthy body.  Yeah so I might be a little taller (I'm pretty damn tall) and a little less skinny, but everything works well enough for me to bike everywhere, play water polo, and have what people tell me is an odd amount of energy for someone my age (kids love me.)

Although if you don't eat plenty of veggies in teh first place then I could see a problem, I just loved my brussel sprouts (still do.)

I sent a letter to PETA awhile ago and I got a similar bullshit response.  Maybe I can dig it up.  Actually, maybe I should write them again and tell them if they don't stop exploiting women I'll start eating meat!  Maybe that'll work.  (And I won't btw, I'm veg for life.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>OK, yeah, if you carefuly plan a healty vegetarian diet it can be very healthy, however, how many teenaged girls just getting into vegetarianism actually do the research and plan a healthy diet and how many just stop eating meat?</i></p>
<p>I became a vegetarian at 12 (ethical reasons) and I so did not eat any sort of researched diet, mostly because my family refused to cook me anything other then the usual food, where I would only eat the vegetables.   (Lucky for me though my family is Italian, so we ate a lot of pasta anyway.)  I survived, without anemia, an active teenage life and sprung into a healthy adult (Veggie for 19 years!  WOOT!)  I am pleased to say that I have a functioning healthy body.  Yeah so I might be a little taller (I&#8217;m pretty damn tall) and a little less skinny, but everything works well enough for me to bike everywhere, play water polo, and have what people tell me is an odd amount of energy for someone my age (kids love me.)</p>
<p>Although if you don&#8217;t eat plenty of veggies in teh first place then I could see a problem, I just loved my brussel sprouts (still do.)</p>
<p>I sent a letter to PETA awhile ago and I got a similar bullshit response.  Maybe I can dig it up.  Actually, maybe I should write them again and tell them if they don&#8217;t stop exploiting women I&#8217;ll start eating meat!  Maybe that&#8217;ll work.  (And I won&#8217;t btw, I&#8217;m veg for life.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/16/peta-has-their-head-up-their-ass/#comment-11918</link>
		<author>Ron Sullivan</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 03:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I'm in a nit-pickin' mood and there's no copy to edit, I'll point out that the photo of a calf that accompanies that site's flash about how dairy = veal is a shot of a white-faced Hereford, not a dairy cow. 

Wonder how they feel about plant pus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I&#8217;m in a nit-pickin&#8217; mood and there&#8217;s no copy to edit, I&#8217;ll point out that the photo of a calf that accompanies that site&#8217;s flash about how dairy = veal is a shot of a white-faced Hereford, not a dairy cow. </p>
<p>Wonder how they feel about plant pus?</p>
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