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	<title>Comments on: Italian Patriarchy, 1; Abused Teenage Girls, Bupkis</title>
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		<title>By: ladyfest romania &#187; are women human?</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-18459</link>
		<author>ladyfest romania &#187; are women human?</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 10:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-18459</guid>
		<description>[...] - in italia (unde btw legea impotriva violului marital este inca ceva f. nou), intr-un caz in care o fata a fost violata de tatal ei vitreg, sentinta sa fie mai usoara pentru ca fata avea experienta sexuala [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] - in italia (unde btw legea impotriva violului marital este inca ceva f. nou), intr-un caz in care o fata a fost violata de tatal ei vitreg, sentinta sa fie mai usoara pentru ca fata avea experienta sexuala [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny M.</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12854</link>
		<author>Jenny M.</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12854</guid>
		<description>A few years ago Italy decided that if a woman was wearing tight jeans before she was raped, the act couldn't be considered a crime because she had to pull down her pants, therefore giving consent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago Italy decided that if a woman was wearing tight jeans before she was raped, the act couldn&#8217;t be considered a crime because she had to pull down her pants, therefore giving consent.</p>
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		<title>By: BetaCandy</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12501</link>
		<author>BetaCandy</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12501</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the education, guys - I had no idea Italy was like that.  My travel dollars will be spent elsewhere.  That's just plain evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the education, guys - I had no idea Italy was like that.  My travel dollars will be spent elsewhere.  That&#8217;s just plain evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Feministe &#187; Daily Outrage &#8212; Top 10, in no particular order</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12296</link>
		<author>Feministe &#187; Daily Outrage &#8212; Top 10, in no particular order</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12296</guid>
		<description>[...] 2. If an Italian girl isn&#8217;t a virgin, it means her rapist is less culpable for his crime. Because rape is way less tragic if you&#8217;ve had sex before. And if your step dad forces you to give him oral sex, well, it couldn&#8217;t have been that bad since you&#8217;re already a slut. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 2. If an Italian girl isn&#8217;t a virgin, it means her rapist is less culpable for his crime. Because rape is way less tragic if you&#8217;ve had sex before. And if your step dad forces you to give him oral sex, well, it couldn&#8217;t have been that bad since you&#8217;re already a slut. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: ginmar</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12295</link>
		<author>ginmar</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12295</guid>
		<description>Sisterj, that would be a mighty blank map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sisterj, that would be a mighty blank map.</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12278</link>
		<author>B</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12278</guid>
		<description>That thing about the swedish court actually came about because of the new and stronger laws regarding rape. Now even statutory rape is considered real rape and what is sexual abuse if the girl is over eighteen is rape if she is younger. 

Naturally some idiot judges then decided that this must mean that raped children then shouldn't have the same amount of compensation as adult rape victims.

I believe that the outrege this ruling caused made them change the laws again so that children wouldn't be able to be discriminated like this again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That thing about the swedish court actually came about because of the new and stronger laws regarding rape. Now even statutory rape is considered real rape and what is sexual abuse if the girl is over eighteen is rape if she is younger. </p>
<p>Naturally some idiot judges then decided that this must mean that raped children then shouldn&#8217;t have the same amount of compensation as adult rape victims.</p>
<p>I believe that the outrege this ruling caused made them change the laws again so that children wouldn&#8217;t be able to be discriminated like this again.</p>
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		<title>By: SisterJ</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12270</link>
		<author>SisterJ</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12270</guid>
		<description>How do we know it wasn't the stepfather - or some other fucktard of his generation - who made her a non-virgin in the first place?  Does this mean it's OK to be the second, third, fourth guy in line at a gang rape? 

And could somebody PLEASE make a map showing places where it's safe to be a girl?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we know it wasn&#8217;t the stepfather - or some other fucktard of his generation - who made her a non-virgin in the first place?  Does this mean it&#8217;s OK to be the second, third, fourth guy in line at a gang rape? </p>
<p>And could somebody PLEASE make a map showing places where it&#8217;s safe to be a girl?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12265</link>
		<author>Christopher</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 04:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12265</guid>
		<description>"Our swedish high court ruled last year that raped and sexually assaulted/abused female minors are entitled to a lesser financial compensation as the â€œoutrageâ€ and trauma is less for them than an adult female."

How does that even make any sense at all?

The Italian ruling is about like saying "He was always giving people little gifts so obviously he didn't mind so much when I stole his car". It's a blatantly disfunctional and wrong view of humanity but at least there's some kind of internal logic to it.

But how does this swedish thing even work? What's the logic?

And yeah, Italy just dropped to roughly the level of Afghanistan or Pakistan on my list of places I want to visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Our swedish high court ruled last year that raped and sexually assaulted/abused female minors are entitled to a lesser financial compensation as the â€œoutrageâ€ and trauma is less for them than an adult female.&#8221;</p>
<p>How does that even make any sense at all?</p>
<p>The Italian ruling is about like saying &#8220;He was always giving people little gifts so obviously he didn&#8217;t mind so much when I stole his car&#8221;. It&#8217;s a blatantly disfunctional and wrong view of humanity but at least there&#8217;s some kind of internal logic to it.</p>
<p>But how does this swedish thing even work? What&#8217;s the logic?</p>
<p>And yeah, Italy just dropped to roughly the level of Afghanistan or Pakistan on my list of places I want to visit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jodie</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12264</link>
		<author>Jodie</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 04:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12264</guid>
		<description>Maybe it's because I'm old and "fluffy" (fluffy enough that apparently there are no Italian clothes my size) but when I visited Venice and Rome in 2004 with my pretty 18 year old daughter, no one bothered us, flirted with us, or touched us.

Men and women both were kind and helpful, both my daughter and I were treated with respect every place we went (including the outdoor junk market in Rome), and we didn't have any problems at all, except for the female gypsy pickpocket who tried to steal my purse.

Even during the transportation strike, when we walked through what looked like some unsavory neighborhoods when we were stranded, we had no problems.

Perhaps it was that we went during December, and there were few tourists, or maybe it was because we stayed in hostels. Maybe we were just lucky.

I suppose what I am saying is that I was utterly horrified by that court ruling, and by the experiences others are relating. I don't know how to reconcile that with my experience there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m old and &#8220;fluffy&#8221; (fluffy enough that apparently there are no Italian clothes my size) but when I visited Venice and Rome in 2004 with my pretty 18 year old daughter, no one bothered us, flirted with us, or touched us.</p>
<p>Men and women both were kind and helpful, both my daughter and I were treated with respect every place we went (including the outdoor junk market in Rome), and we didn&#8217;t have any problems at all, except for the female gypsy pickpocket who tried to steal my purse.</p>
<p>Even during the transportation strike, when we walked through what looked like some unsavory neighborhoods when we were stranded, we had no problems.</p>
<p>Perhaps it was that we went during December, and there were few tourists, or maybe it was because we stayed in hostels. Maybe we were just lucky.</p>
<p>I suppose what I am saying is that I was utterly horrified by that court ruling, and by the experiences others are relating. I don&#8217;t know how to reconcile that with my experience there.</p>
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		<title>By: Twisty</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12261</link>
		<author>Twisty</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 03:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/02/19/italian-patriarchy-1-teenage-girls-bupkus/#comment-12261</guid>
		<description>Ha! Weenies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! Weenies.</p>
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