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		<title>By: vasco da gama</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-34139</link>
		<author>vasco da gama</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey girls, it's too late.  You have already declared that prostitution is the 'sex trade' thereby euphemizing into respectability.  This is not a sexploitation issue.  This is labor issue.  Or has your fucking nonsense finally hit the brick wall of reality?

Chuckle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey girls, it&#8217;s too late.  You have already declared that prostitution is the &#8217;sex trade&#8217; thereby euphemizing into respectability.  This is not a sexploitation issue.  This is labor issue.  Or has your fucking nonsense finally hit the brick wall of reality?</p>
<p>Chuckle</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;ve not mocked Jeffy-poo enough it seems at PunkAssBlog.com</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-23206</link>
		<author>I&#8217;ve not mocked Jeffy-poo enough it seems at PunkAssBlog.com</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 20:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-23206</guid>
		<description>[...] We&#8217;re not talking actual touching their grey area stuff are we? Just for once can someone on the right not live up to the name Pedoservative? Could we please just have one generation of cosnervatives who are not largely a bunch of pedophiles, rapists and miscelaneous lesser sex offenders? Why is that such a hard ting to ask for? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] We&#8217;re not talking actual touching their grey area stuff are we? Just for once can someone on the right not live up to the name Pedoservative? Could we please just have one generation of cosnervatives who are not largely a bunch of pedophiles, rapists and miscelaneous lesser sex offenders? Why is that such a hard ting to ask for? [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: sushi</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-21447</link>
		<author>sushi</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-21447</guid>
		<description>Can someone please explain to me exactly what's wrong with ballet and dance lessons? And I apologize if this has been discussed before in advance.

One of the least sexualized things I've done with my life is take (and teach) dance classes. Maybe it's just that I live in a small town in the Midwest, but jazz and modern classes here, at every studio I've ever been to, have everything to do with somewhat dorky dance steps from the 1940s mixed in with a little bit of "hammer-time." Girls and boys alike are dressed in full length tops and sparkly pants certainly aren't tight.

When I have been to some skanky clubs with friends I can't begin to do the things with my hips that those girls do. It's simple: I've been taught not to. I've been taught to have utter control of that part of my body, and I've been told that hooching it up is ugly. Why is this a bad thing to teach our daughters?

Now, I realize that one might have issue with wearing leotards and tights, but my current studio doesn't require them. When I taught a few years ago I didn't either. People could wear workout clothes, or ballet clothes, or whatever the heck they were comfortable in. 

If you are at a studio or company where it's clear a girl must be anorexic to get parts, it's just as easy to leave and find one where that isn't the case. It's sad that some girl's parents force them into such a situation at more serious ballet studios, but it's not completely the same thing as forcing ones daughter into modeling. There are studios where skinny or fat if you can do the work you get to show off in the once yearly recital--period. It's ultimately usually up to the parent what sort of place their daughter or son lands at. 

Is it the girly and floofy costumes? They aren't a necessity. Heck, performing isn't a necessity.

For young girls and boys, dance provides an alternative to sports that teaches flexibility and coordination, and helps people develop a decent work out regimen. That's really about all it is, at least, where I've landed myself.

For me, a 25 year old PhD candidate, my Monday night classes are all about meeting with a group of women my age and older, cracking out some champagne, talking about what bothers us (sometimes even the patriarchy!) and our accomplishments too, and yes, working out. We do ballet, tap, jazz, and spanish, and none of this is really sexy in a conventional sense. 

So what gives? How is doing this giving in to the patriarchy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please explain to me exactly what&#8217;s wrong with ballet and dance lessons? And I apologize if this has been discussed before in advance.</p>
<p>One of the least sexualized things I&#8217;ve done with my life is take (and teach) dance classes. Maybe it&#8217;s just that I live in a small town in the Midwest, but jazz and modern classes here, at every studio I&#8217;ve ever been to, have everything to do with somewhat dorky dance steps from the 1940s mixed in with a little bit of &#8220;hammer-time.&#8221; Girls and boys alike are dressed in full length tops and sparkly pants certainly aren&#8217;t tight.</p>
<p>When I have been to some skanky clubs with friends I can&#8217;t begin to do the things with my hips that those girls do. It&#8217;s simple: I&#8217;ve been taught not to. I&#8217;ve been taught to have utter control of that part of my body, and I&#8217;ve been told that hooching it up is ugly. Why is this a bad thing to teach our daughters?</p>
<p>Now, I realize that one might have issue with wearing leotards and tights, but my current studio doesn&#8217;t require them. When I taught a few years ago I didn&#8217;t either. People could wear workout clothes, or ballet clothes, or whatever the heck they were comfortable in. </p>
<p>If you are at a studio or company where it&#8217;s clear a girl must be anorexic to get parts, it&#8217;s just as easy to leave and find one where that isn&#8217;t the case. It&#8217;s sad that some girl&#8217;s parents force them into such a situation at more serious ballet studios, but it&#8217;s not completely the same thing as forcing ones daughter into modeling. There are studios where skinny or fat if you can do the work you get to show off in the once yearly recital&#8211;period. It&#8217;s ultimately usually up to the parent what sort of place their daughter or son lands at. </p>
<p>Is it the girly and floofy costumes? They aren&#8217;t a necessity. Heck, performing isn&#8217;t a necessity.</p>
<p>For young girls and boys, dance provides an alternative to sports that teaches flexibility and coordination, and helps people develop a decent work out regimen. That&#8217;s really about all it is, at least, where I&#8217;ve landed myself.</p>
<p>For me, a 25 year old PhD candidate, my Monday night classes are all about meeting with a group of women my age and older, cracking out some champagne, talking about what bothers us (sometimes even the patriarchy!) and our accomplishments too, and yes, working out. We do ballet, tap, jazz, and spanish, and none of this is really sexy in a conventional sense. </p>
<p>So what gives? How is doing this giving in to the patriarchy?</p>
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		<title>By: You need Other Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17442</link>
		<author>You need Other Magazine</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 19:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17442</guid>
		<description>[...] Twisty Faster of &#8220;I Blame the Patriarchy&#8221; has an excellent, ranty, fired-up post about a hideous industry of preteen and teenage &#8220;supermodels&#8221;. I warn you, the photos on that site will make you feel kind of sick. They&#8217;re of young girls in skimpy clothes and porno poses. So the site is completely legal, and subscribing to it (30 bucks a month) is too. And yet the obvious purpose of the site is to be porn, i.e. it&#8217;s for people (guys) to look at while they jack off. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Twisty Faster of &#8220;I Blame the Patriarchy&#8221; has an excellent, ranty, fired-up post about a hideous industry of preteen and teenage &#8220;supermodels&#8221;. I warn you, the photos on that site will make you feel kind of sick. They&#8217;re of young girls in skimpy clothes and porno poses. So the site is completely legal, and subscribing to it (30 bucks a month) is too. And yet the obvious purpose of the site is to be porn, i.e. it&#8217;s for people (guys) to look at while they jack off. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: badgerbag</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17436</link>
		<author>badgerbag</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17436</guid>
		<description>That's so horrifying and messed up and crazy. Oh man. I wish, I wish, that I didn't have my own memories of "dressing up like hookers" with my friends when I was little.   

Thanks for pointing this out and I think the link was necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s so horrifying and messed up and crazy. Oh man. I wish, I wish, that I didn&#8217;t have my own memories of &#8220;dressing up like hookers&#8221; with my friends when I was little.   </p>
<p>Thanks for pointing this out and I think the link was necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Lara</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17355</link>
		<author>Lara</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 12:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17355</guid>
		<description>These pedofetishporn sites aren't even limited to young teen and preteen victims. Last year, during a storm about diaper fetishists compiling paid-for wank-galleries of infant photos scraped from family photo sites, it came to light that a number of children aged 5-15 were being forced by their parents to pose for nappyporn, including fulfilling online orders for particularly "sought-after" children to be posed in particular ways. The fetishists stridently maintained that their interest wasn't sexual, they just lurrrrrved children. Especially children wetting their pants and then showing the money shot.

If you ever happen across Brian Cobb of Michigan, do please whack him repeatedly in his soft parts with a spiked club, and tell him it's from me. Ta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These pedofetishporn sites aren&#8217;t even limited to young teen and preteen victims. Last year, during a storm about diaper fetishists compiling paid-for wank-galleries of infant photos scraped from family photo sites, it came to light that a number of children aged 5-15 were being forced by their parents to pose for nappyporn, including fulfilling online orders for particularly &#8220;sought-after&#8221; children to be posed in particular ways. The fetishists stridently maintained that their interest wasn&#8217;t sexual, they just lurrrrrved children. Especially children wetting their pants and then showing the money shot.</p>
<p>If you ever happen across Brian Cobb of Michigan, do please whack him repeatedly in his soft parts with a spiked club, and tell him it&#8217;s from me. Ta.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Kate</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17280</link>
		<author>Ms Kate</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17280</guid>
		<description>I'm sorry Charles, that was directed at CarolS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Charles, that was directed at CarolS.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Kate</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17279</link>
		<author>Ms Kate</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17279</guid>
		<description>Charles, try the boys section of a somewhat gender neutral place for girl's clothes that aren't lolita lite.  The fit at age 4 should be about the same.

Better yet, consignment shops contain little of this sort of trashy crap for girls because 1)it isn't fashionable for more than a year and 2) it is such cheap crap and poor quality, it doesn't make it to the shop in saleable condition.  Plenty of cute, girly, modest stuff makes it through the sieve. What you end up finding is LL Bean, Gap Kids, Gymboree, and Hannah Anderson sorts of clothes, nicely broken in and at a fraction of the original price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, try the boys section of a somewhat gender neutral place for girl&#8217;s clothes that aren&#8217;t lolita lite.  The fit at age 4 should be about the same.</p>
<p>Better yet, consignment shops contain little of this sort of trashy crap for girls because 1)it isn&#8217;t fashionable for more than a year and 2) it is such cheap crap and poor quality, it doesn&#8217;t make it to the shop in saleable condition.  Plenty of cute, girly, modest stuff makes it through the sieve. What you end up finding is LL Bean, Gap Kids, Gymboree, and Hannah Anderson sorts of clothes, nicely broken in and at a fraction of the original price.</p>
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		<title>By: finnsmotel</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17182</link>
		<author>finnsmotel</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17182</guid>
		<description>Kate sez:

"If our society really made the mental well being of females a priority then kiddie beauty pagents, kiddie modeling sites and other activities deemed to be potentially damaging to a childâ€™s health would be banned, period."

Not to pick on you, Kate, because I believe we agree in principle, but...  I don't think 'making the mental well-being of females a priority' is going to be enough to accomplish what you suggest.

There needs to be a wholesale reevaluation of the MALE role in society.  Patriarchy is what makes porn possible.  Sympathy for the victims is well and good and should happen, sure, but without a reconstruction of the male role in society, all we're doing is putting a band-aid on a cut that will reopen time and again.

Now, I have no idea what post-patriarchal sex would be like, but I bet it would include far less of the anxiety and obsessive behavior it does now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate sez:</p>
<p>&#8220;If our society really made the mental well being of females a priority then kiddie beauty pagents, kiddie modeling sites and other activities deemed to be potentially damaging to a childâ€™s health would be banned, period.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not to pick on you, Kate, because I believe we agree in principle, but&#8230;  I don&#8217;t think &#8216;making the mental well-being of females a priority&#8217; is going to be enough to accomplish what you suggest.</p>
<p>There needs to be a wholesale reevaluation of the MALE role in society.  Patriarchy is what makes porn possible.  Sympathy for the victims is well and good and should happen, sure, but without a reconstruction of the male role in society, all we&#8217;re doing is putting a band-aid on a cut that will reopen time and again.</p>
<p>Now, I have no idea what post-patriarchal sex would be like, but I bet it would include far less of the anxiety and obsessive behavior it does now.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17179</link>
		<author>Charles</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/18/he-touched-my-special-gray-area/#comment-17179</guid>
		<description>Sara, I heard the same story on Marketplace on my way home, and like you it was after I read this story.  Unlike you, I did click the link.  "Ew" doesn't capture it, I'm sorry to say.  Someone above quoted a pedophile saying something to the effect of, "let's all admit this is child porn."  Yep, it is.  The Marketplace story says that AMEX, Visa, etc. are joined in a campaign to eliminate child porn on the internets by 2008 by preventing people from using credit cards on those sites.  I have no way to judge the quality of their efforts; my assumption is that not nearly enough resources are being put into this effort.  As the adoptive father of an 11-month old girl . . . words fail me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara, I heard the same story on Marketplace on my way home, and like you it was after I read this story.  Unlike you, I did click the link.  &#8220;Ew&#8221; doesn&#8217;t capture it, I&#8217;m sorry to say.  Someone above quoted a pedophile saying something to the effect of, &#8220;let&#8217;s all admit this is child porn.&#8221;  Yep, it is.  The Marketplace story says that AMEX, Visa, etc. are joined in a campaign to eliminate child porn on the internets by 2008 by preventing people from using credit cards on those sites.  I have no way to judge the quality of their efforts; my assumption is that not nearly enough resources are being put into this effort.  As the adoptive father of an 11-month old girl . . . words fail me.</p>
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