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	<title>Comments on: I Love Babies! Part Two</title>
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		<title>By: Pony</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17382</link>
		<author>Pony</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. I should have said: And it's also...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. I should have said: And it&#8217;s also&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Branjor</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17381</link>
		<author>Branjor</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17381</guid>
		<description>Pony: It also occurs naturally, minus any drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pony: It also occurs naturally, minus any drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Pony</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17361</link>
		<author>Pony</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17361</guid>
		<description>Branjor: It's one of the complaints of men who take drugs for hypertension and cardiovascular disease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Branjor: It&#8217;s one of the complaints of men who take drugs for hypertension and cardiovascular disease.</p>
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		<title>By: Branjor</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17360</link>
		<author>Branjor</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Male orgasms are not necessary for reproduction. Ejaculation of sperm without orgasm occurs. A little secret I learned from a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Male orgasms are not necessary for reproduction. Ejaculation of sperm without orgasm occurs. A little secret I learned from a man.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17346</link>
		<author>Ron Sullivan</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 04:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17346</guid>
		<description>Heh, let me throw more marbles into the Rube Goldberg machine here. People who, OK, &lt;i&gt;women&lt;/i&gt;* who don't ever have orgasms still get horny. Hm. Juicy. 

*Men too, for all I know. Haven't heard much about this exact thing from men.

And other reasons for having sex besides it feels good to do it. Like, it feels like you gotta do it, which is different. But wanting to do it anytime, and having it feel good enough to do it again, yeah, probably has something to od wiht human fertility. OTOH, it probably has more to do with human social structure and mores -- to be fertile, we'd only have to do it at fertile times. And it wouldn't have to feel so good, to either sex. It would just have to be urgent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, let me throw more marbles into the Rube Goldberg machine here. People who, OK, <i>women</i>* who don&#8217;t ever have orgasms still get horny. Hm. Juicy. </p>
<p>*Men too, for all I know. Haven&#8217;t heard much about this exact thing from men.</p>
<p>And other reasons for having sex besides it feels good to do it. Like, it feels like you gotta do it, which is different. But wanting to do it anytime, and having it feel good enough to do it again, yeah, probably has something to od wiht human fertility. OTOH, it probably has more to do with human social structure and mores &#8212; to be fertile, we&#8217;d only have to do it at fertile times. And it wouldn&#8217;t have to feel so good, to either sex. It would just have to be urgent.</p>
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		<title>By: bitchphd</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17336</link>
		<author>bitchphd</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17336</guid>
		<description>My point is that people have sex *in pursuit of orgasm*.  Without that incentive, people would do other things.  Admittedly, the *achievement* of orgasm isn't necessary for a woman to conceive (although, in point of fact, it isn't necessary for a man to cause a pregnancy, either).  But I get tired of the argument that women's orgasms are irrelevant to conception.

65:  My point, admittedly hyperbolic, was that if women weren't interested in sex, then there'd be no incentive for us to *have* sex (unless we actively wanted to reproduce--but the species would have died out long before we figured out the mechanism for that).  Someone upthread had said that rape would still exist, which is true: but if one weren't driven by the desire to meet men specifically (as opposed to people, more generally, for non-sexual reasons) and the risk of rape were fairly high, there'd be no real strong reason not to just ban men from women's communities, since *all* our emotional, physical, intellectual, etc. needs could be met by other women, absent any desire for sex (with men).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is that people have sex *in pursuit of orgasm*.  Without that incentive, people would do other things.  Admittedly, the *achievement* of orgasm isn&#8217;t necessary for a woman to conceive (although, in point of fact, it isn&#8217;t necessary for a man to cause a pregnancy, either).  But I get tired of the argument that women&#8217;s orgasms are irrelevant to conception.</p>
<p>65:  My point, admittedly hyperbolic, was that if women weren&#8217;t interested in sex, then there&#8217;d be no incentive for us to *have* sex (unless we actively wanted to reproduce&#8211;but the species would have died out long before we figured out the mechanism for that).  Someone upthread had said that rape would still exist, which is true: but if one weren&#8217;t driven by the desire to meet men specifically (as opposed to people, more generally, for non-sexual reasons) and the risk of rape were fairly high, there&#8217;d be no real strong reason not to just ban men from women&#8217;s communities, since *all* our emotional, physical, intellectual, etc. needs could be met by other women, absent any desire for sex (with men).</p>
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		<title>By: Pony</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17311</link>
		<author>Pony</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 19:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17311</guid>
		<description>Oh and I might add: what could be more perverse to the godbags cause than a post-menopausal woman rocking her orgasms. No chances of fertility here whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and I might add: what could be more perverse to the godbags cause than a post-menopausal woman rocking her orgasms. No chances of fertility here whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: finnsmotel</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17310</link>
		<author>finnsmotel</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17310</guid>
		<description>"When a man orgasms, his body is making EVERY BEST EFFORT TO CREATE A NEW HUMAN BEING."

Bah.

Our bodies aren't "trying" to do anything.  It's all one giant happy accident that happens to result in procreation.

Trying is something humans do and we anthropomorphize our bodily functions with phrases like "trying."

All things move from areas of greater concentration to areas of lesser concentration.  That's it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When a man orgasms, his body is making EVERY BEST EFFORT TO CREATE A NEW HUMAN BEING.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bah.</p>
<p>Our bodies aren&#8217;t &#8220;trying&#8221; to do anything.  It&#8217;s all one giant happy accident that happens to result in procreation.</p>
<p>Trying is something humans do and we anthropomorphize our bodily functions with phrases like &#8220;trying.&#8221;</p>
<p>All things move from areas of greater concentration to areas of lesser concentration.  That&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pony</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17305</link>
		<author>Pony</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17305</guid>
		<description>Ron you do make me smile, laugh and just plain feel better about life, in all your posts which are so life-affirming. 

Yes I think mine dips. Twirls. Does the lambada and takes a run down the river valley to come back to hit the finish line tape in a flourish. 

And the reason I keep saying so, it that young women still think menopause means the end of life as we know it. 

The last bastion. Well or one of them. So I was being tongue in cheek. And smiling, here. 

I hate using smiley icons though. You'll just have to understand, I've a dry sense of humour. Look for oblique not insult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron you do make me smile, laugh and just plain feel better about life, in all your posts which are so life-affirming. </p>
<p>Yes I think mine dips. Twirls. Does the lambada and takes a run down the river valley to come back to hit the finish line tape in a flourish. </p>
<p>And the reason I keep saying so, it that young women still think menopause means the end of life as we know it. </p>
<p>The last bastion. Well or one of them. So I was being tongue in cheek. And smiling, here. </p>
<p>I hate using smiley icons though. You&#8217;ll just have to understand, I&#8217;ve a dry sense of humour. Look for oblique not insult.</p>
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		<title>By: Hideous</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17303</link>
		<author>Hideous</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/20/i-love-babies-part-two/#comment-17303</guid>
		<description>Since when do women have to find sex enjoyable in order to have it? Men are in control of the world's pussy. And I just read something somewhere that surveyed "third world" women and found that only something like 25% of them "enjoy" sex. Does that mean only 25% of "third world" women are &lt;i&gt;having&lt;/i&gt; sex? I'm too sure! The other 75% are too busy pursuing doctorates and running corporations, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when do women have to find sex enjoyable in order to have it? Men are in control of the world&#8217;s pussy. And I just read something somewhere that surveyed &#8220;third world&#8221; women and found that only something like 25% of them &#8220;enjoy&#8221; sex. Does that mean only 25% of &#8220;third world&#8221; women are <i>having</i> sex? I&#8217;m too sure! The other 75% are too busy pursuing doctorates and running corporations, right?</p>
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