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		<title>By: saltyC</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18298</link>
		<author>saltyC</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 05:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.


Yes unmarried pregnant women are the ruin of a society. 
Don't have a baby, and don't have an abortion. Why don't you just explode.
No matter what you do is wrong, and the reason is your faulty judgement. No one asked you to spread your legs. And that will also be the reason you fail at your one total responsibility in producing a whole person. 
It's because of your serotonin imbalance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
<p>Yes unmarried pregnant women are the ruin of a society.<br />
Don&#8217;t have a baby, and don&#8217;t have an abortion. Why don&#8217;t you just explode.<br />
No matter what you do is wrong, and the reason is your faulty judgement. No one asked you to spread your legs. And that will also be the reason you fail at your one total responsibility in producing a whole person.<br />
It&#8217;s because of your serotonin imbalance.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18297</link>
		<author>Kate</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 05:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money has been pulled away from women ever since the Gipper got into office in 1980 or whatever. I was busy being a scared pregnant teen to remember. What I do remember clearly is the guilt I felt while being all pregnant and seeing him preach to millions of Americans about the social 'plight' of 'unwed' mothers in this country and how its all gotta be stopped.

Them whores is at it agin, ruinin' the world.

Ronnie got the first hit in on welfare with his Welfare Act of 1984, whereby benefits would only go to single parent households, links with other service agencies to provide cribs, clothes and other services were cut. Headstart was cut dramatically and the last ax fell on many of the more creative CAP services that were started with Johnson's War on Poverty which the Republicans hated so much.

With that law also was mandated that child support payments would be confiscated when a woman went on welfare, waiving right to any monies, future or past is still a requirement to receive any aid at all.  A fifty dollar 'pass through' payment was allotted to be taken out and sent to the recipient each month the payor paid.

There was a small part of the legislation that proposed a work program, but focused on bogus 'incentives' such as giving businesses huge tax credits per welfare recipient that they hired on.  Obviously, big payers were the ones to step up and take advantage of that 'opportunity' which did little to train women in real skilled work.

Ronnie's bill also began the ban on medicaid funding for abortions, if my memory serves me correct.

THe Welfare Reform Act of 1995, signed into law by Bill Clinton took things a step further.  He essentially sacrificed women for the sake of votes, just like Ronnie.  Everyone loves to hate on women, especially poor ones.  A good uniter.

Under the 1995 act, which is huge, complicated and contradictory, women have reduced time for benefits, don't get to attend school, save for six week, low skilled training programs, the feds cut funding for states that go over an arbitrary line of allowable recipient numbers, grants increase for states that have a drop in abortion rates, applications are set up to determine the father of each child, often with degrading questions.  A cap on the number of children covered has been passed in some states -- and the law allows for the 'creativity' of states to set up many of their own rules with reduced federal oversight.

most importantly, medicaid any poverty assistance programs were reduced in their legal construct, from being 'entitlement' programs to mere legislation, which because now apparently people's lives are not connected to them, can be disrupted and pulled at will.

there is more, but i'll stop there.

When I was an activist, no one gave a shit.  Well, its all done, sorry the party's over and women were moved back about twenty steps, but since no one will ever be poor in our society but dirty bad people, no one cared.

I said at the time, that which I thought was pretty damned obvious, that they would start with the easiest women to target, knowing that all women's lives are moved backward and thus women are more fearful and regressive than before.  Their strategy is working, they've exploited classism to begin their take-down of social progress and roll the clocks back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money has been pulled away from women ever since the Gipper got into office in 1980 or whatever. I was busy being a scared pregnant teen to remember. What I do remember clearly is the guilt I felt while being all pregnant and seeing him preach to millions of Americans about the social &#8216;plight&#8217; of &#8216;unwed&#8217; mothers in this country and how its all gotta be stopped.</p>
<p>Them whores is at it agin, ruinin&#8217; the world.</p>
<p>Ronnie got the first hit in on welfare with his Welfare Act of 1984, whereby benefits would only go to single parent households, links with other service agencies to provide cribs, clothes and other services were cut. Headstart was cut dramatically and the last ax fell on many of the more creative CAP services that were started with Johnson&#8217;s War on Poverty which the Republicans hated so much.</p>
<p>With that law also was mandated that child support payments would be confiscated when a woman went on welfare, waiving right to any monies, future or past is still a requirement to receive any aid at all.  A fifty dollar &#8216;pass through&#8217; payment was allotted to be taken out and sent to the recipient each month the payor paid.</p>
<p>There was a small part of the legislation that proposed a work program, but focused on bogus &#8216;incentives&#8217; such as giving businesses huge tax credits per welfare recipient that they hired on.  Obviously, big payers were the ones to step up and take advantage of that &#8216;opportunity&#8217; which did little to train women in real skilled work.</p>
<p>Ronnie&#8217;s bill also began the ban on medicaid funding for abortions, if my memory serves me correct.</p>
<p>THe Welfare Reform Act of 1995, signed into law by Bill Clinton took things a step further.  He essentially sacrificed women for the sake of votes, just like Ronnie.  Everyone loves to hate on women, especially poor ones.  A good uniter.</p>
<p>Under the 1995 act, which is huge, complicated and contradictory, women have reduced time for benefits, don&#8217;t get to attend school, save for six week, low skilled training programs, the feds cut funding for states that go over an arbitrary line of allowable recipient numbers, grants increase for states that have a drop in abortion rates, applications are set up to determine the father of each child, often with degrading questions.  A cap on the number of children covered has been passed in some states &#8212; and the law allows for the &#8216;creativity&#8217; of states to set up many of their own rules with reduced federal oversight.</p>
<p>most importantly, medicaid any poverty assistance programs were reduced in their legal construct, from being &#8216;entitlement&#8217; programs to mere legislation, which because now apparently people&#8217;s lives are not connected to them, can be disrupted and pulled at will.</p>
<p>there is more, but i&#8217;ll stop there.</p>
<p>When I was an activist, no one gave a shit.  Well, its all done, sorry the party&#8217;s over and women were moved back about twenty steps, but since no one will ever be poor in our society but dirty bad people, no one cared.</p>
<p>I said at the time, that which I thought was pretty damned obvious, that they would start with the easiest women to target, knowing that all women&#8217;s lives are moved backward and thus women are more fearful and regressive than before.  Their strategy is working, they&#8217;ve exploited classism to begin their take-down of social progress and roll the clocks back.</p>
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		<title>By: Pony</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18295</link>
		<author>Pony</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 03:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm in a very blaming mood. Blame.

An elderly neighbour asked for my help today. Neighbour needed a ride to a far-flung corner of town for a BLAME colon cleanse. She's having BLAME surgery soon and wants to be BLAME "all nice and clean." Since I am familiar with her BLAME health care proclivities and gave up long ago, I didn't dodder around on A but went right to Z, and offered that  maybe not a good idea to have a BLAME cleanse before surgery when those good bugs might be needed. To no BLAME avail. End of discussion. Oh, and would I mind while out to pick up a couple (brand) BLAME vaginal douche kits for her? WTF I sorta said? She wants to make sure she's all BLAME clean. She's 78. BLAME. BLAME. BLAME. But you know who I BLAME most; the charlatans who create this and milk it. 

BLAME.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in a very blaming mood. Blame.</p>
<p>An elderly neighbour asked for my help today. Neighbour needed a ride to a far-flung corner of town for a BLAME colon cleanse. She&#8217;s having BLAME surgery soon and wants to be BLAME &#8220;all nice and clean.&#8221; Since I am familiar with her BLAME health care proclivities and gave up long ago, I didn&#8217;t dodder around on A but went right to Z, and offered that  maybe not a good idea to have a BLAME cleanse before surgery when those good bugs might be needed. To no BLAME avail. End of discussion. Oh, and would I mind while out to pick up a couple (brand) BLAME vaginal douche kits for her? WTF I sorta said? She wants to make sure she&#8217;s all BLAME clean. She&#8217;s 78. BLAME. BLAME. BLAME. But you know who I BLAME most; the charlatans who create this and milk it. </p>
<p>BLAME.</p>
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		<title>By: scratchy888</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18292</link>
		<author>scratchy888</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 00:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18292</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yes! We even dread the coming of our periods - it wouldnâ€™t be so bad, bad at all, if we were not programed to think that â€œthe time of the monthâ€ was such a burden. Society has an ingenious way of telling us how to feel or how to react to certain situations via the various types of media. &lt;/i&gt;

Fuck that dread!

And the media it rode in on!

Really, you need to dig deep and get hold of a sense of religiosity about the whole experience.

IMAGINATIONS, people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yes! We even dread the coming of our periods - it wouldnâ€™t be so bad, bad at all, if we were not programed to think that â€œthe time of the monthâ€ was such a burden. Society has an ingenious way of telling us how to feel or how to react to certain situations via the various types of media. </i></p>
<p>Fuck that dread!</p>
<p>And the media it rode in on!</p>
<p>Really, you need to dig deep and get hold of a sense of religiosity about the whole experience.</p>
<p>IMAGINATIONS, people!</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Kate</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18277</link>
		<author>Ms Kate</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 17:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18277</guid>
		<description>I have to wonder about the whole sonogram = prenatal care thing, and not just for the usual reasons of it not being medically very useful.

When most women would be considering abortion, their pregnancies are at the embryo stage.  In other words, what is there is very very small and not terribly easy to define.

What I suspect happens is a pseudo-sonogram: they do the sonogram stuff to the woman, but show her a much more developed (e.g. human looking) being on the screen.  It would be interesting to invade such a place as a damsel in distress armed with preggo urine for testing, and see what they show you during the "prenatal care" visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder about the whole sonogram = prenatal care thing, and not just for the usual reasons of it not being medically very useful.</p>
<p>When most women would be considering abortion, their pregnancies are at the embryo stage.  In other words, what is there is very very small and not terribly easy to define.</p>
<p>What I suspect happens is a pseudo-sonogram: they do the sonogram stuff to the woman, but show her a much more developed (e.g. human looking) being on the screen.  It would be interesting to invade such a place as a damsel in distress armed with preggo urine for testing, and see what they show you during the &#8220;prenatal care&#8221; visit.</p>
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		<title>By: kathy a</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18269</link>
		<author>kathy a</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 15:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18269</guid>
		<description>don't most states have laws about practicing medicine without a license?

a medical procedure using a medical machine that invades the body seems like something, you know, medical -- and a diagnostic procedure should at least be overseen by a doctor.  so they just let some person who can find the "on" switch do it?  

most ob/gyns oppose the use of external sonograms for "entertainment" [non-diagnostic] purposes, at least according to this study:
http://www.obgyn.net/us/us.asp?page=/us/cotm/9910/survey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t most states have laws about practicing medicine without a license?</p>
<p>a medical procedure using a medical machine that invades the body seems like something, you know, medical &#8212; and a diagnostic procedure should at least be overseen by a doctor.  so they just let some person who can find the &#8220;on&#8221; switch do it?  </p>
<p>most ob/gyns oppose the use of external sonograms for &#8220;entertainment&#8221; [non-diagnostic] purposes, at least according to this study:<br />
<a href="http://www.obgyn.net/us/us.asp?page=/us/cotm/9910/survey" rel="nofollow">http://www.obgyn.net/us/us.asp?page=/us/cotm/9910/survey</a></p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18261</link>
		<author>KB</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 19:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18261</guid>
		<description>I stand corrected.  Shame on me for going outside my area.

There ARE such critters as sonographers.  They're trained for nothing but, and it's a branch of diagnostic medicine.  So no other degrees or anything.

But the ones who work for CPCs are still evil, natch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand corrected.  Shame on me for going outside my area.</p>
<p>There ARE such critters as sonographers.  They&#8217;re trained for nothing but, and it&#8217;s a branch of diagnostic medicine.  So no other degrees or anything.</p>
<p>But the ones who work for CPCs are still evil, natch.</p>
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		<title>By: Maenad</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18257</link>
		<author>Maenad</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 15:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18257</guid>
		<description>"These sickos get airtime, on NPR, etc. and spew abuse. It is pure abuse, and it is highly effective at making women GUILTY for HAVING WOMBS. Women are guilty because we bleed, that is our stigma. Teenage girls are SCARED of their guilty bodies."


Yes! We even dread the coming of our periods - it wouldn't be so bad, bad at all, if we were not programed to think that "the time of the month" was such a burden. Society has an ingenious way of telling us how to feel or how to react to certain situations via the various types of media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These sickos get airtime, on NPR, etc. and spew abuse. It is pure abuse, and it is highly effective at making women GUILTY for HAVING WOMBS. Women are guilty because we bleed, that is our stigma. Teenage girls are SCARED of their guilty bodies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes! We even dread the coming of our periods - it wouldn&#8217;t be so bad, bad at all, if we were not programed to think that &#8220;the time of the month&#8221; was such a burden. Society has an ingenious way of telling us how to feel or how to react to certain situations via the various types of media.</p>
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		<title>By: Jodie</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18256</link>
		<author>Jodie</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 15:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18256</guid>
		<description>FaerieDust, not only will more women get pregnant, but they won't get the prenatal care they need -- which will damage those all important fetuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FaerieDust, not only will more women get pregnant, but they won&#8217;t get the prenatal care they need &#8212; which will damage those all important fetuses.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18255</link>
		<author>Sara</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 14:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/02/more-on-bogus-abortion-clinics/#comment-18255</guid>
		<description>This is so angering, yet another entry on my "Why aren't these assholes in jail???" list.  

I like Cass' idea, except that it has the backlash potential to increase exposure of vulnerable women (the would-be patients) to yet more godbag abuse.  Once you unleash the godbags, even on the side of the angels, there's just no telling how far they'll go or what kind of evil can ensue.

We should picket these places ourselves with big signs that say "NOT A PRO-CHOICE CLINIC," "YOUR PRIVACY MEANS NOTHING HERE," and "THE REAL PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS OVER THERE [arrow]."  Is anyone actually doing this?  Or do these places shut down once their cover is blown?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so angering, yet another entry on my &#8220;Why aren&#8217;t these assholes in jail???&#8221; list.  </p>
<p>I like Cass&#8217; idea, except that it has the backlash potential to increase exposure of vulnerable women (the would-be patients) to yet more godbag abuse.  Once you unleash the godbags, even on the side of the angels, there&#8217;s just no telling how far they&#8217;ll go or what kind of evil can ensue.</p>
<p>We should picket these places ourselves with big signs that say &#8220;NOT A PRO-CHOICE CLINIC,&#8221; &#8220;YOUR PRIVACY MEANS NOTHING HERE,&#8221; and &#8220;THE REAL PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS OVER THERE [arrow].&#8221;  Is anyone actually doing this?  Or do these places shut down once their cover is blown?</p>
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