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	<title>Comments on: Jailing Rape Victims and Other Delights</title>
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		<title>By: CaliOak</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/22/jailing-rape-victims-and-other-delights/#comment-20749</link>
		<dc:creator>CaliOak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 23:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As creepy and horrible as this what women in the Middle East and the 3rd world are enduring, and as disgusting as a judge making his courtroom whatch smut and kiddie porn when not neccassary for the due process of law how do we know this 14 was raped?

20 year old says no rape.  14 year old says no sex.  She won&#039;t testify against him when she ends up in jail???

I smell consensual sex.  This is what we get for criminalizing teenage sexuality.  Man is free.  Girl is in jail because she won&#039;t put her lover on the sex offenders list.

When is sex a crime?  When is it a crime for a woman to say no?  
When is it a crime for a woman to say yes.

Marital status discrimination used to mean not renting to unwed mothers and tormenting illegitimate children.  Now morality based housing policies mean driving fathers and lovers out of INTACT families living together without a marriage license.

I don&#039;t like the age gap, but this is fishy.  Is this statuatory rape?  Who filed the charges?  Where are the girls numbskull parents.  If this was my kid that 20 year old would have a lot more to fear from me than the law and the court could take this up with us over the phone while we went camping in Mexico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As creepy and horrible as this what women in the Middle East and the 3rd world are enduring, and as disgusting as a judge making his courtroom whatch smut and kiddie porn when not neccassary for the due process of law how do we know this 14 was raped?</p>
<p>20 year old says no rape.  14 year old says no sex.  She won&#8217;t testify against him when she ends up in jail???</p>
<p>I smell consensual sex.  This is what we get for criminalizing teenage sexuality.  Man is free.  Girl is in jail because she won&#8217;t put her lover on the sex offenders list.</p>
<p>When is sex a crime?  When is it a crime for a woman to say no?<br />
When is it a crime for a woman to say yes.</p>
<p>Marital status discrimination used to mean not renting to unwed mothers and tormenting illegitimate children.  Now morality based housing policies mean driving fathers and lovers out of INTACT families living together without a marriage license.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the age gap, but this is fishy.  Is this statuatory rape?  Who filed the charges?  Where are the girls numbskull parents.  If this was my kid that 20 year old would have a lot more to fear from me than the law and the court could take this up with us over the phone while we went camping in Mexico.</p>
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		<title>By: saltyC</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/22/jailing-rape-victims-and-other-delights/#comment-20583</link>
		<dc:creator>saltyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 23:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so why do you use it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so why do you use it?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/22/jailing-rape-victims-and-other-delights/#comment-20579</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 22:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But I would say that bastard is in no way on the same level as son of a bitch or bitch. Mainly because the only reason bastard is an insult is because it implies that the *father* doesnâ€™t own the child, because the mother is (almost) always know. Whereas Bitch and son of a bitch are directly insulting women.&quot;

I also think it&#039;s because &quot;Bastard&quot; is rarely used to insult illegitimate children anymore. You aren&#039;t a bastard because your parents aren&#039;t married; You&#039;re one because you park in the handicapped space, or whatever. The patriarchal meaning is secondary and is heading towards being an entirely archaic use of the term.

&quot;Bitch&quot;, on the other hand, is still used in its original sense; It&#039;s still used to insult women simply for being women.

I&#039;ve never really thought about it, but really, isn&#039;t &quot;illegitimate child&quot; almost a more insulting term then bastard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I would say that bastard is in no way on the same level as son of a bitch or bitch. Mainly because the only reason bastard is an insult is because it implies that the *father* doesnâ€™t own the child, because the mother is (almost) always know. Whereas Bitch and son of a bitch are directly insulting women.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also think it&#8217;s because &#8220;Bastard&#8221; is rarely used to insult illegitimate children anymore. You aren&#8217;t a bastard because your parents aren&#8217;t married; You&#8217;re one because you park in the handicapped space, or whatever. The patriarchal meaning is secondary and is heading towards being an entirely archaic use of the term.</p>
<p>&#8220;Bitch&#8221;, on the other hand, is still used in its original sense; It&#8217;s still used to insult women simply for being women.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never really thought about it, but really, isn&#8217;t &#8220;illegitimate child&#8221; almost a more insulting term then bastard?</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Z</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/22/jailing-rape-victims-and-other-delights/#comment-20555</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 18:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: the usage of princess

I stand corrected. I was going to blame Anglocentrism, but I didn&#039;t even know that QE1 styled herself a prince. I like learning stuff, it makes me smarter somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: the usage of princess</p>
<p>I stand corrected. I was going to blame Anglocentrism, but I didn&#8217;t even know that QE1 styled herself a prince. I like learning stuff, it makes me smarter somehow.</p>
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		<title>By: ae</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/05/22/jailing-rape-victims-and-other-delights/#comment-20545</link>
		<dc:creator>ae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 16:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the Twisty Center for Varmint Research! 

Also, what Betsy said re: &lt;i&gt;Is a â€œprincessâ€ somehow not within the definition of a female â€œrulerâ€? So why the â€œorâ€ ?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the Twisty Center for Varmint Research! </p>
<p>Also, what Betsy said re: <i>Is a â€œprincessâ€ somehow not within the definition of a female â€œrulerâ€? So why the â€œorâ€ ?</i></p>
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		<title>By: Mar Iguana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mar Iguana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 12:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to know that my &quot;illegitmate&quot; son, AKA bastard, makes me a lower level slut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to know that my &#8220;illegitmate&#8221; son, AKA bastard, makes me a lower level slut.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 10:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;
I donâ€™t want to defend any monarchy, but a princess isnâ€™t a ruler, a queen may be.&lt;/i&gt;

SarahZ, there are localities where the title of the sovereign is indeed Prince/ess.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For the duration of Imperial Rome and for quite a few centuries after, prince was actually considered a superior title to King, as it derived from Augustus&#039; title of Princeps (first citizen) to distinguish himself from Dictators and Consuls and Rome&#039;s long-banished kings.  Kings were considered part of a more barbaric heritage, while princes were civilised rulers.  Then things got all confused in the dark ages and European royalty accrued as many titles each as they possibly could, so the distinction became debased.

Queen Elizabeth I was quite fond of referring to herself as a prince, because other queens and princesses were merely the chattels of kings, while she was a sovereign ruler.</description>
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I donâ€™t want to defend any monarchy, but a princess isnâ€™t a ruler, a queen may be.</i></p>
<p>SarahZ, there are localities where the title of the sovereign is indeed Prince/ess.</p></blockquote>
<p>For the duration of Imperial Rome and for quite a few centuries after, prince was actually considered a superior title to King, as it derived from Augustus&#8217; title of Princeps (first citizen) to distinguish himself from Dictators and Consuls and Rome&#8217;s long-banished kings.  Kings were considered part of a more barbaric heritage, while princes were civilised rulers.  Then things got all confused in the dark ages and European royalty accrued as many titles each as they possibly could, so the distinction became debased.</p>
<p>Queen Elizabeth I was quite fond of referring to herself as a prince, because other queens and princesses were merely the chattels of kings, while she was a sovereign ruler.</p>
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		<title>By: AoT</title>
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		<dc:creator>AoT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 04:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iâ€™m with you, saltyC. Bastard, son of a bitch, bitch, all are direct insults to mothers and hurt my ears.&quot;

For the record, I&#039;m a bastard.

Yep, parents never married.

But I would say that bastard is in no way on the same level as son of a bitch or bitch. Mainly because the only reason bastard is an insult is because it implies that the *father* doesn&#039;t own the child, because the mother is (almost) always know. Whereas Bitch and son of a bitch are directly insulting women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Iâ€™m with you, saltyC. Bastard, son of a bitch, bitch, all are direct insults to mothers and hurt my ears.&#8221;</p>
<p>For the record, I&#8217;m a bastard.</p>
<p>Yep, parents never married.</p>
<p>But I would say that bastard is in no way on the same level as son of a bitch or bitch. Mainly because the only reason bastard is an insult is because it implies that the *father* doesn&#8217;t own the child, because the mother is (almost) always know. Whereas Bitch and son of a bitch are directly insulting women.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 02:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe one such is the Prince-ipality of Monaco.</description>
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		<title>By: Violet Socks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Violet Socks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 01:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I donâ€™t want to defend any monarchy, but a princess isnâ€™t a ruler, a queen may be.&lt;/i&gt;

SarahZ, there are localities where the title of the sovereign is indeed Prince/ess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I donâ€™t want to defend any monarchy, but a princess isnâ€™t a ruler, a queen may be.</i></p>
<p>SarahZ, there are localities where the title of the sovereign is indeed Prince/ess.</p>
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