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	<title>Comments on: Public Cans of Austin: Kerby Lane (South Lamar)</title>
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		<title>By: Mar Iguana</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25815</link>
		<author>Mar Iguana</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't see it, this godsend of family bathrooms.  It's not about parents who don't want to expose their kids to strangers.  It's about mothers who don't want to expose their children to men, including fathers.

I took my son into the women's room until around the first grade when he decided he was going to be a big boy and use the men's room all by himself.  I told him not to look at anybody in there, not to talk to anybody, get in, get out and, if anybody even started to get weird, to scream at the top of his lungs and I'd be there in a flash.  Then I'd position myself right outside the door so I could more easily establish eye contact with every guy who went in and out.

As for the miniscule number of fathers properly caring for a little girl, fortunately for them, their girls are safe in a women's restroom.  If their young daughter still needs a little help in there, they could watch for a mom going in and ask for her help, which I'm betting they'd get.  Worry free.  How nice that must be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see it, this godsend of family bathrooms.  It&#8217;s not about parents who don&#8217;t want to expose their kids to strangers.  It&#8217;s about mothers who don&#8217;t want to expose their children to men, including fathers.</p>
<p>I took my son into the women&#8217;s room until around the first grade when he decided he was going to be a big boy and use the men&#8217;s room all by himself.  I told him not to look at anybody in there, not to talk to anybody, get in, get out and, if anybody even started to get weird, to scream at the top of his lungs and I&#8217;d be there in a flash.  Then I&#8217;d position myself right outside the door so I could more easily establish eye contact with every guy who went in and out.</p>
<p>As for the miniscule number of fathers properly caring for a little girl, fortunately for them, their girls are safe in a women&#8217;s restroom.  If their young daughter still needs a little help in there, they could watch for a mom going in and ask for her help, which I&#8217;m betting they&#8217;d get.  Worry free.  How nice that must be.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25811</link>
		<author>Sara</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Jezebella, "family" bathrooms -- that's just what I was thinking of.  It never occurred to me to describe them that way, but I guess they are.  They are the best, short of the elegant and clean coed bathrooms of Paris with the paid attendants.  (Not all bathrooms in Paris are like this, but I experienced several with great joy.)

I just ate a delectable, buttery croissant, and I am still very, very tired, so I will not detail for you how I have discovered through years of working at an establishment with "family" bathrooms that women and children are every bit as capable of disgusting "hygiene" as men, but I do have to say that it seems to be true.  Another factor to remember is that many establishments which claim to care about the cleanliness of their restrooms are understaffed to keep up with traffic of both genders, and many others which are supposed by law to clean bathrooms regularly simply don't get to it 'til the end of the night.  

Being in a wheelchair (which I haven't been in public in three-and-a-half years but still remember vividly) only makes all this the more obvious, as much of the filth of humanity seems to happen -- or at least leave its evidence -- a lot closer to face level.  Also, things one previously could sidestep without a thought become impediments when one depends on handrails and wheels.

Ick, ick, ick.  Blech.

I have to go now, to cleanse my sensual memory by sitting in lotus position -- well, half-lotus under the circumstances -- and contemplating the perfection of the butter pastry and strong coffee that graced my tongue twenty minutes ago.  Ta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Jezebella, &#8220;family&#8221; bathrooms &#8212; that&#8217;s just what I was thinking of.  It never occurred to me to describe them that way, but I guess they are.  They are the best, short of the elegant and clean coed bathrooms of Paris with the paid attendants.  (Not all bathrooms in Paris are like this, but I experienced several with great joy.)</p>
<p>I just ate a delectable, buttery croissant, and I am still very, very tired, so I will not detail for you how I have discovered through years of working at an establishment with &#8220;family&#8221; bathrooms that women and children are every bit as capable of disgusting &#8220;hygiene&#8221; as men, but I do have to say that it seems to be true.  Another factor to remember is that many establishments which claim to care about the cleanliness of their restrooms are understaffed to keep up with traffic of both genders, and many others which are supposed by law to clean bathrooms regularly simply don&#8217;t get to it &#8217;til the end of the night.  </p>
<p>Being in a wheelchair (which I haven&#8217;t been in public in three-and-a-half years but still remember vividly) only makes all this the more obvious, as much of the filth of humanity seems to happen &#8212; or at least leave its evidence &#8212; a lot closer to face level.  Also, things one previously could sidestep without a thought become impediments when one depends on handrails and wheels.</p>
<p>Ick, ick, ick.  Blech.</p>
<p>I have to go now, to cleanse my sensual memory by sitting in lotus position &#8212; well, half-lotus under the circumstances &#8212; and contemplating the perfection of the butter pastry and strong coffee that graced my tongue twenty minutes ago.  Ta.</p>
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		<title>By: Jezebella</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25790</link>
		<author>Jezebella</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 21:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25790</guid>
		<description>Some places have these "family" bathrooms which are quite large, double as a handicapped restroom, and can accommodate a parent, a stroller, a changing station, etc.  Though I loathe using a restroom that men frequently use, these family bathrooms are no doubt a godsend for parents who do not wish to expose their kids to strangers, or strangers to their kids.  I am thankful for these, as it means I do not have to be exposed to stinky diapers.  Plus I hear they are actually big enough for convenient wheelchair use.  So maybe that is the kind of "coed" bathroom Sara is thinking of.  

Then there are the boho coffeehouses with separate, wall-to-the-ceiling, one-seater bathrooms anyone can use - to prevent lineups at the womens', guess - and these are inevitably a mess because apparently many, many men cannot be bothered to pee IN THE FUCKING TOILET despite years of using the damn things.  For this lazy, arrogant, filthy behavior, I blame you-know-what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some places have these &#8220;family&#8221; bathrooms which are quite large, double as a handicapped restroom, and can accommodate a parent, a stroller, a changing station, etc.  Though I loathe using a restroom that men frequently use, these family bathrooms are no doubt a godsend for parents who do not wish to expose their kids to strangers, or strangers to their kids.  I am thankful for these, as it means I do not have to be exposed to stinky diapers.  Plus I hear they are actually big enough for convenient wheelchair use.  So maybe that is the kind of &#8220;coed&#8221; bathroom Sara is thinking of.  </p>
<p>Then there are the boho coffeehouses with separate, wall-to-the-ceiling, one-seater bathrooms anyone can use - to prevent lineups at the womens&#8217;, guess - and these are inevitably a mess because apparently many, many men cannot be bothered to pee IN THE FUCKING TOILET despite years of using the damn things.  For this lazy, arrogant, filthy behavior, I blame you-know-what.</p>
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		<title>By: Pony</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25758</link>
		<author>Pony</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public washrooms are filthy enough without having to share them with men, whom studies have shown rarely if ever wash their hands after pissing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public washrooms are filthy enough without having to share them with men, whom studies have shown rarely if ever wash their hands after pissing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mar Iguana</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25721</link>
		<author>Mar Iguana</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25721</guid>
		<description>Sara, do you have to wait for one of these units together in a restroom where the sinks are or in the public space outside the units?  I don't even think about making splash down sounds in a women's room but I'll be damned if I want some perv having golden shower fantasies in the next stall.

I gotta get out more often.  Or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara, do you have to wait for one of these units together in a restroom where the sinks are or in the public space outside the units?  I don&#8217;t even think about making splash down sounds in a women&#8217;s room but I&#8217;ll be damned if I want some perv having golden shower fantasies in the next stall.</p>
<p>I gotta get out more often.  Or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25685</link>
		<author>Sara</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25685</guid>
		<description>Mar, there are lots and lots of restrooms in this country which are single-occupancy units with locking doors available for whoever shows up to use them first, male or female.  Perhaps "coed" is the wrong word for these.  Perhaps I should have said "unigender" or something.

Very tired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mar, there are lots and lots of restrooms in this country which are single-occupancy units with locking doors available for whoever shows up to use them first, male or female.  Perhaps &#8220;coed&#8221; is the wrong word for these.  Perhaps I should have said &#8220;unigender&#8221; or something.</p>
<p>Very tired.</p>
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		<title>By: Mar Iguana</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25665</link>
		<author>Mar Iguana</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25665</guid>
		<description>"...this is just another argument for more coed restrooms of the sort described above."  Sara


Coed restrooms?  Shudder.  No, no, no, no no thank you very much.  What are the arguments for this?  That maybe the ERA would have passed?  "More" coed restrooms?  You mean they already exist?  Good grief.  Is there NO space women can have alone?

Nevermind.  I already know the answer.  Just don't want to ignite that explosion here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;this is just another argument for more coed restrooms of the sort described above.&#8221;  Sara</p>
<p>Coed restrooms?  Shudder.  No, no, no, no no thank you very much.  What are the arguments for this?  That maybe the ERA would have passed?  &#8220;More&#8221; coed restrooms?  You mean they already exist?  Good grief.  Is there NO space women can have alone?</p>
<p>Nevermind.  I already know the answer.  Just don&#8217;t want to ignite that explosion here.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25660</link>
		<author>Sara</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cass, I've seen changing station in individual coed restrooms, the kind with single locking doors and a line outside, not the kind with stalls anybody can use.  Maybe this is what he's thinking of, or maybe not.  All I know is that I've never seen a men's room door with a sign on it signifying that there was a changing station inside.

As far as I can tell, especially since most businesses are not going to dedicate extra real estate in the form of a separate changing room to the welfare of babies or the safety and comfort of disabled people, but sure do want to be perceived as trying to meet all these goals, this is just another argument for more coed restrooms of the sort described above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cass, I&#8217;ve seen changing station in individual coed restrooms, the kind with single locking doors and a line outside, not the kind with stalls anybody can use.  Maybe this is what he&#8217;s thinking of, or maybe not.  All I know is that I&#8217;ve never seen a men&#8217;s room door with a sign on it signifying that there was a changing station inside.</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, especially since most businesses are not going to dedicate extra real estate in the form of a separate changing room to the welfare of babies or the safety and comfort of disabled people, but sure do want to be perceived as trying to meet all these goals, this is just another argument for more coed restrooms of the sort described above.</p>
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		<title>By: Cass</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25589</link>
		<author>Cass</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I asked my brother about this once (why, I don't remember), and he assured me there were changing tables in some men's restrooms. Of course, he could have been spreading disinformation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked my brother about this once (why, I don&#8217;t remember), and he assured me there were changing tables in some men&#8217;s restrooms. Of course, he could have been spreading disinformation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mar Iguana</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25587</link>
		<author>Mar Iguana</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/08/31/public-cans-of-austin-kerby-lane-south-lamar/#comment-25587</guid>
		<description>"I have yet to see a sign for a changing station in a menâ€™s room."   Sara


While I agree the boys should take more responsibility for diaper duty, hell even a little bit, as I notice they rarely, if ever, seek custody of their kids until after they get some control over their emissions, I doubt stations in the "gentlemen" room would get used enough to even warrant them.

However, my first flash was that I wouldn't want my infant exposed to the gluey eyeballs of some of the boys who might be in there.  Not to mention the kind of cocks that would start frequenting the restrooms with stations for pervy purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have yet to see a sign for a changing station in a menâ€™s room.&#8221;   Sara</p>
<p>While I agree the boys should take more responsibility for diaper duty, hell even a little bit, as I notice they rarely, if ever, seek custody of their kids until after they get some control over their emissions, I doubt stations in the &#8220;gentlemen&#8221; room would get used enough to even warrant them.</p>
<p>However, my first flash was that I wouldn&#8217;t want my infant exposed to the gluey eyeballs of some of the boys who might be in there.  Not to mention the kind of cocks that would start frequenting the restrooms with stations for pervy purpose.</p>
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