Comments on: The Foie Gras Chronicles: Part the First http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:18:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Laughingrat http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-145949 Laughingrat Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:53:29 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-145949 Amazing to encounter this as I gradually work my way backwards through the mighty Spinster Aunt back catalogue. This very day some misguided person in our cooking forum posted, with a victorious flourish, a link to a recent Salon article that is meant to neatly encapsulate all the arguments in favor of foie gras. She said, "You can tell people this stuff when they start to hate on you for liking pate!" Oh mercy. Would you like to know what the "arguments" were in favor of this particular form of torture? They were A: We like the end result, so neener-neener-neener!, B: Force-feeding makes a luxury product even more delicious (see A), and C: Humans have been force-feeding fowl for this purpose for 5,000 years, and that makes it okay! Immediately my tiny rat brain drew the connection between this wank-stained "logic" and similar arguments made in favor of the oppression of women. Since the original poster is female, I therefore invited her to voluntarily give up her rights to vote, own property, or leave the house unaccompanied without being stoned to death, since patriarchal oppression of women has been going on a lot longer than a piddly-ass 5,000 years. Plus, misogynists find oppressed women *delicious*. She was not amused, but she also probably just didn't get it. Amazing to encounter this as I gradually work my way backwards through the mighty Spinster Aunt back catalogue. This very day some misguided person in our cooking forum posted, with a victorious flourish, a link to a recent Salon article that is meant to neatly encapsulate all the arguments in favor of foie gras. She said, “You can tell people this stuff when they start to hate on you for liking pate!” Oh mercy.

Would you like to know what the “arguments” were in favor of this particular form of torture? They were A: We like the end result, so neener-neener-neener!, B: Force-feeding makes a luxury product even more delicious (see A), and C: Humans have been force-feeding fowl for this purpose for 5,000 years, and that makes it okay! Immediately my tiny rat brain drew the connection between this wank-stained “logic” and similar arguments made in favor of the oppression of women. Since the original poster is female, I therefore invited her to voluntarily give up her rights to vote, own property, or leave the house unaccompanied without being stoned to death, since patriarchal oppression of women has been going on a lot longer than a piddly-ass 5,000 years. Plus, misogynists find oppressed women *delicious*.

She was not amused, but she also probably just didn’t get it.

]]> By: So unladylike of me, I know. « A Bird’s Nest http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27730 So unladylike of me, I know. « A Bird’s Nest Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:30:43 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27730 [...] Tirade! I resented this characterization. “You want a tirade?” I thought. “I could show you some real blog tirades, dammit.” But then I reconsidered, and decided that perhaps “tirade” wasn’t such a bad word after all. [...] [...] Tirade! I resented this characterization. “You want a tirade?” I thought. “I could show you some real blog tirades, dammit.” But then I reconsidered, and decided that perhaps “tirade” wasn’t such a bad word after all. [...]

]]> By: Twisty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27724 Twisty Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:51:01 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27724 Ha! Ha!

]]> By: Rene http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27720 Rene Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:11:53 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27720 OK, so this is somewhat off topic, but it's funny. It's a description of the 1903 birth of James Beard by his biographer, Robert Clark: "...a fat, impudent baron of a baby, spoiled and incapable of countenancing or comprehending lean times. He was a baby fit for a nation poised for prosperity and plenty, a nation that could not only satisfy the appetites of every consumer but whose entire purpose was increasingly consumption and creation of new and better consumers." OK, so this is somewhat off topic, but it’s funny. It’s a description of the 1903 birth of James Beard by his biographer, Robert Clark: “…a fat, impudent baron of a baby, spoiled
and incapable of countenancing or comprehending lean times. He was a baby fit for a nation poised for prosperity and plenty, a nation that could not only satisfy the appetites of every consumer but whose entire purpose was increasingly consumption and creation of new and better consumers.”

]]> By: thelmyc http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27583 thelmyc Fri, 13 Oct 2006 03:55:56 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27583 Sorry, but I've had foie gras. It isn't that good. I think people just get off on how horrible it is to make it, and they imagine that "suffering makes beauty" or some such horseshit. Funny how tyhat only ever goes for women or animals, though, innit? Now, if you were to tell me that unpardonable suffering accompanied your average Thai tofu green curry, I might waver. Sorry, but I’ve had foie gras. It isn’t that good. I think people just get off on how horrible it is to make it, and they imagine that “suffering makes beauty” or some such horseshit. Funny how tyhat only ever goes for women or animals, though, innit?

Now, if you were to tell me that unpardonable suffering accompanied your average Thai tofu green curry, I might waver.

]]> By: Linda http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27575 Linda Fri, 13 Oct 2006 02:01:25 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27575 There is a clear connection between sexism and animal cruelty. Two great books to read on this are "The Pornography of Meat," and "The Sexual Politics of Meat," by Carol J. Adams. Twisty, if you get a chance to read them, I'd love to read your take on them. There is a clear connection between sexism and animal cruelty. Two great books to read on this are “The Pornography of Meat,” and “The Sexual Politics of Meat,” by Carol J. Adams.
Twisty, if you get a chance to read them, I’d love to read your take on them.

]]> By: the patriarch http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27569 the patriarch Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:22:26 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27569 "I’m the one who brought up coltan in electronic devices, and your argument that therefore don’t worry about other stuff is exaclty the kind of nihilism I warned against." I never said "don't worry about it." I said I find it odd and a bit hypocritical for a meat eater to be appalled at the source foie gras and not with the source of the meat they actually eat. And then I went on a bit about how that may be due to convenience and how it's easy to be against something you don't indulge in yourself. I also mentioned that it seems the majority of the commenters here are vegetarians, and so this doesn't apply to you folks. Although I did throw something in there about cell phones and how it irks me that some people get upset to the point of action about the effects certain products have on animals, and not about the effects certain products have on faraway people. But I now realize the point of this thread was more on Bourdain's comments linking foie gras and porn, so I'll butt out. “I’m the one who brought up coltan in electronic devices, and your argument that therefore don’t worry about other stuff is exaclty the kind of nihilism I warned against.”

I never said “don’t worry about it.” I said I find it odd and a bit hypocritical for a meat eater to be appalled at the source foie gras and not with the source of the meat they actually eat. And then I went on a bit about how that may be due to convenience and how it’s easy to be against something you don’t indulge in yourself.

I also mentioned that it seems the majority of the commenters here are vegetarians, and so this doesn’t apply to you folks. Although I did throw something in there about cell phones and how it irks me that some people get upset to the point of action about the effects certain products have on animals, and not about the effects certain products have on faraway people. But I now realize the point of this thread was more on Bourdain’s comments linking foie gras and porn, so I’ll butt out.

]]> By: saltyC http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27561 saltyC Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:28:53 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27561 you're wemelcome. !!!yay the blame button's back!!! you’re wemelcome.

!!!yay the blame button’s back!!!

]]> By: thebewilderness http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27549 thebewilderness Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:26:25 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27549 I did not say excrememtent, but I truly wish I had. This deserves the best typo of the month award. I did not say excrememtent, but I truly wish I had. This deserves the best typo of the month award.

]]> By: saltyC http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27540 saltyC Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:13:41 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/07/the-foie-gras-chronicles-part-the-first/#comment-27540 Patriarch, I'm the one who brought up coltan in electronic devices, and your argument that therefore don't worry about other stuff is exaclty the kind of nihilism I warned against. Or pile of excrememtent as thebewilderness says. Patriarch, I’m the one who brought up coltan in electronic devices, and your argument that therefore don’t worry about other stuff is exaclty the kind of nihilism I warned against. Or pile of excrememtent as thebewilderness says.

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