Comments on: Public Cans of Austin: Emo’s http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:47:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Class and Feminism: A Disjointed Post in Five Parts at Faux Real Tho! http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28371 Class and Feminism: A Disjointed Post in Five Parts at Faux Real Tho! Fri, 03 Nov 2006 03:49:40 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28371 [...] What is “shame”? [...] [...] What is “shame”? [...]

]]> By: maggiethewolf http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28281 maggiethewolf Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:00:51 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28281 I think, with enough knowledge, that nothing is fun. There are no victimless acts. Even jumping into a pile of leaves maims and kills various lifeforms. Canoeing floats us lightly on the Earth, but constructing the canoe killed critters and buying the canoe diverted dollars that could have saved someone. And so on. I think fun depends upon the suspension of understanding. For example, one might host a splendid party in a splendid house, but it's dependent upon inequity and that house, if it isn't utterly green, warms the Earth. Even then, it disrupts ecosystems. Fun happens when we forget. I think, with enough knowledge, that nothing is fun. There are no victimless acts. Even jumping into a pile of leaves maims and kills various lifeforms. Canoeing floats us lightly on the Earth, but constructing the canoe killed critters and buying the canoe diverted dollars that could have saved someone. And so on. I think fun depends upon the suspension of understanding. For example, one might host a splendid party in a splendid house, but it’s dependent upon inequity and that house, if it isn’t utterly green, warms the Earth. Even then, it disrupts ecosystems.

Fun happens when we forget.

]]> By: darkymac http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28256 darkymac Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:01:31 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28256 Fun is doing <i>The Swan</i> on the trombone at the big district band eisteddfod and singing, instead of playing, the top A (Bflat) because you're so fixated on a woman in the front row with her hat crooked that you can't keep your embouchure for smirking. And the funniest part is that someone had done it somewhere else that you can't quite remember at the time, but you are already giggling in anticipation at that one too. No marks. But a huge distraction for the crowd - and judges collapsing with trying not to laugh. Transcendent, barely controlled, boundary-stretching action. I'd never pay anyone to have it. Fun is doing The Swan on the trombone at the big district band eisteddfod and singing, instead of playing, the top A (Bflat) because you’re so fixated on a woman in the front row with her hat crooked that you can’t keep your embouchure for smirking.
And the funniest part is that someone had done it somewhere else that you can’t quite remember at the time, but you are already giggling in anticipation at that one too.

No marks. But a huge distraction for the crowd – and judges collapsing with trying not to laugh.

Transcendent, barely controlled, boundary-stretching action.
I’d never pay anyone to have it.

]]> By: maggiethewolf http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28215 maggiethewolf Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:58:18 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28215 Twisty, I butt-walk every damn day, 'cause my butt sticks way out by itself. Twisty, I butt-walk every damn day, ’cause my butt sticks way out by itself.

]]> By: Twisty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28213 Twisty Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:34:09 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28213 OK, now I'll tell yall I do for the occasional diversion. I'll be walking downtown, say along Congress Ave, and at some point I'll stick my butt way out. I'll butt-walk for maybe a block. It's comical. For some reason the way this feels makes me laugh my ass off. OK, now I’ll tell yall I do for the occasional diversion. I’ll be walking downtown, say along Congress Ave, and at some point I’ll stick my butt way out. I’ll butt-walk for maybe a block. It’s comical. For some reason the way this feels makes me laugh my ass off.

]]> By: The Baboon http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28199 The Baboon Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:46:40 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28199 I like saltyC's identification that "fun" is opposed to "work", and to the associated ideas of adulthood and responsibility. "Fun" is therefore associated with childhood and irresponsibility, which is where the patriarchy has an oppo to sneak in. Being childish and irresponsible can be a non-capitalist, non-patriarchal enterprise - e.g, the jumping in leaves - but the P does have a field day with the combinations of marketing, sex, male irresponsibility and female childishness. And there wouldn't be so much of an association of fun with childishness if adulthood wasn't so conceptually divorced from fun and playfulness. And there's the Brave New World patriarchy-capitalism double-team for you - we permit the strict division of work from fun when we are alienated from our own labor, we do the 98-lb leech work thing, and then in our limited free time we allow them to sell our "fun" back to us in carefully patriarchy- and capitalism-supporting forms. All hail leafpile-jumpers, music-makers, cat-wranglers and pointless-laughers for helping to subvert the partyarchy. I like saltyC’s identification that “fun” is opposed to “work”, and to the associated ideas of adulthood and responsibility. “Fun” is therefore associated with childhood and irresponsibility, which is where the patriarchy has an oppo to sneak in. Being childish and irresponsible can be a non-capitalist, non-patriarchal enterprise – e.g, the jumping in leaves – but the P does have a field day with the combinations of marketing, sex, male irresponsibility and female childishness. And there wouldn’t be so much of an association of fun with childishness if adulthood wasn’t so conceptually divorced from fun and playfulness.

And there’s the Brave New World patriarchy-capitalism double-team for you – we permit the strict division of work from fun when we are alienated from our own labor, we do the 98-lb leech work thing, and then in our limited free time we allow them to sell our “fun” back to us in carefully patriarchy- and capitalism-supporting forms. All hail leafpile-jumpers, music-makers, cat-wranglers and pointless-laughers for helping to subvert the partyarchy.

]]> By: maggiethewolf http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28187 maggiethewolf Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:52:05 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28187 Amen to what hedonistic wrote about storytelling. Stories are how we understand our world and if we're understanding something other than "the horror, the horror," that understanding can be fun. saltyC also makes a good point here: "I have had my neurons bathed in dopamine and not had a good time, because I knew it was wrong." Amen to what hedonistic wrote about storytelling. Stories are how we understand our world and if we’re understanding something other than “the horror, the horror,” that understanding can be fun.

saltyC also makes a good point here: “I have had my neurons bathed in dopamine and not had a good time, because I knew it was wrong.”

]]> By: saltyC http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28186 saltyC Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:20:27 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28186 What looks like work can be fun. Take cooking and sewing. I think it's a gas. But people who had no choice but to drudge at it, don't. Same reason people who have been homeless or close to it don't always enjoy camping. To children, housework is fun, I can tell by the way my 16-month-old pretends to clean up. I really had fun drawing and making animations until I had to do it for a living. I think fun is not just chemical, you also have to believe you're having fun. I have had my neurons bathed in dopamine and not had a good time, because I knew it was wrong. What looks like work can be fun.

Take cooking and sewing. I think it’s a gas. But people who had no choice but to drudge at it, don’t. Same reason people who have been homeless or close to it don’t always enjoy camping.

To children, housework is fun, I can tell by the way my 16-month-old pretends to clean up.

I really had fun drawing and making animations until I had to do it for a living.

I think fun is not just chemical, you also have to believe you’re having fun. I have had my neurons bathed in dopamine and not had a good time, because I knew it was wrong.

]]> By: hedonistic http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28184 hedonistic Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:50:28 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28184 Storytelling is an innocent pleasure, something the global thermonuclear megatheocraticorporatocracy (god I love that Twistyism!) cannot take away from us. It can beat us down and oppress us but it cannot take away our stories. Dancing, too. Self-made music. Art. I blame the patriarchy that I never learned how to cook from scratch with food I grew myself, because eating well is the most fun of all! Unfortunately, even something so simple as eating has been co-opted by the System and turned into something we do at other people's expense. Storytelling is an innocent pleasure, something the global thermonuclear megatheocraticorporatocracy (god I love that Twistyism!) cannot take away from us. It can beat us down and oppress us but it cannot take away our stories.

Dancing, too. Self-made music. Art.

I blame the patriarchy that I never learned how to cook from scratch with food I grew myself, because eating well is the most fun of all! Unfortunately, even something so simple as eating has been co-opted by the System and turned into something we do at other people’s expense.

]]> By: No tengo ninguna idea qué ésta dice. » Fun: Where? When? And Who’s Paying for It? http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28162 No tengo ninguna idea qué ésta dice. » Fun: Where? When? And Who’s Paying for It? Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:19:01 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/27/public-cans-of-austin-emos/#comment-28162 [...] When is there time for fun? Do you have five minutes to amuse yourself? When was the last time you played? Twisty asked this on October 27th: What is “fun”? [...] [...] When is there time for fun? Do you have five minutes to amuse yourself? When was the last time you played? Twisty asked this on October 27th: What is “fun”? [...]

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