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		<title>By: RealTexan</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/a-jolly-traipse-through-the-whorehouse-of-antiquity/#comment-95365</link>
		<author>RealTexan</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently "Sabele" has forgotten that "-ed" is the correct ending for the past tense in the modern English language. I agree with Mandos on his point that libraries are "boring" but I hope that the tourist income generated by this ancient whore-house will somehow benefit the library excavation. No one ever talks about the great whore-house of Alexandria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently &#8220;Sabele&#8221; has forgotten that &#8220;-ed&#8221; is the correct ending for the past tense in the modern English language. I agree with Mandos on his point that libraries are &#8220;boring&#8221; but I hope that the tourist income generated by this ancient whore-house will somehow benefit the library excavation. No one ever talks about the great whore-house of Alexandria.</p>
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		<title>By: redneckmother</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/a-jolly-traipse-through-the-whorehouse-of-antiquity/#comment-28191</link>
		<author>redneckmother</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And no, Boystown isn't in LaGrange. That's the Chicken Ranch. (Shakes head.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And no, Boystown isn&#8217;t in LaGrange. That&#8217;s the Chicken Ranch. (Shakes head.)</p>
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		<title>By: redneckmother</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/a-jolly-traipse-through-the-whorehouse-of-antiquity/#comment-28190</link>
		<author>redneckmother</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It troubles me to think that someday, LaGrange, Texas will be the site of an "archeological" tourist trap. 

The only realistic representation of brothel life I've seen personally was an exhibit of photos from Bill Witliff's book Boystown. The pictures were candids taken by photogs working in the bars and whorehouses, mostly at the behest of the johns. Every single one of the men in those photos is revealed as the pathetic jackass he really is. The women, on the other hand, seem fully human, which made the whole collection that much harder to look at. Which is, I think, as it should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It troubles me to think that someday, LaGrange, Texas will be the site of an &#8220;archeological&#8221; tourist trap. </p>
<p>The only realistic representation of brothel life I&#8217;ve seen personally was an exhibit of photos from Bill Witliff&#8217;s book Boystown. The pictures were candids taken by photogs working in the bars and whorehouses, mostly at the behest of the johns. Every single one of the men in those photos is revealed as the pathetic jackass he really is. The women, on the other hand, seem fully human, which made the whole collection that much harder to look at. Which is, I think, as it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: meret</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/a-jolly-traipse-through-the-whorehouse-of-antiquity/#comment-28185</link>
		<author>meret</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed the emphasis on the "Libertines"

1. One who acts without moral restraint; a dissolute person.
2. One who defies established religious precepts; a freethinker.

And how the fact that the women were slaves is an afterthought - the last paragraph. Not something to think about - much.

It reminds me of the people for whom pornography is a "free speech" issue. It's all about *their* freedom. It's so inconvenient to think about the freedom of women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed the emphasis on the &#8220;Libertines&#8221;</p>
<p>1. One who acts without moral restraint; a dissolute person.<br />
2. One who defies established religious precepts; a freethinker.</p>
<p>And how the fact that the women were slaves is an afterthought - the last paragraph. Not something to think about - much.</p>
<p>It reminds me of the people for whom pornography is a &#8220;free speech&#8221; issue. It&#8217;s all about *their* freedom. It&#8217;s so inconvenient to think about the freedom of women.</p>
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		<title>By: Buttercup</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/a-jolly-traipse-through-the-whorehouse-of-antiquity/#comment-28183</link>
		<author>Buttercup</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the indignation above is expressed so much better than I could.  All I can say is , Twisty! You said "Jagoff"!  Are you a closet Pittsburgher?

Signed, 

Buttercup, an'at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the indignation above is expressed so much better than I could.  All I can say is , Twisty! You said &#8220;Jagoff&#8221;!  Are you a closet Pittsburgher?</p>
<p>Signed, </p>
<p>Buttercup, an&#8217;at.</p>
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		<title>By: Mar Iguana</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/a-jolly-traipse-through-the-whorehouse-of-antiquity/#comment-28181</link>
		<author>Mar Iguana</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The thing I really liked about Pompei is the impluvium: the houses have courtyards, with roofs that slant toward the middle of the area, so that they cover the sides of the courtyard"  masaccio

Unfortunately, you would never have been able to enjoy the lovely courtyard in your husband's or father's house.  You would have been confined to the women's quarters and only trotted out if your husband wanted another child or your father wanted to marry you off for material benefit to some old, Greek fart twice your age.  If you were a good little virgin, that is.  Otherwise,  daddy dearest would be selling your ass off to the slavers.

"Having ensured that the 'good' girls were safe from any taint of sexual indiscretion, it was necessary to supply the 'bad' girls to cater for men's sexual appetites.  Solon (the great Athenian lawgiver of the sixth century BC) legalized state brothels, staffed by slaves and aliens.  While the good girls composed a single category (wives cum mothers), the bad girls were graded from the high-maintenance hetaera -- the equivalent of the mistress -- to the low-end street walker, who could be picked up for a few dollars near the city dumps where people went to defecate.  The whore's sexuality was a public convenience; she was viewed in terms of a sewer that drained off men's lust.

"We have hetaerae for our pleasure, concubines for our daily needs, and wives to give us legitimate children and look after the housekeeping,' Demosthenes, the greatest of the Athenian orators, is reported to have said.  This demarcation associating female virtue with sexlessness has been used to dehumanize women to this day."

"Misogyny, The World's Oldest Prejudice," Jack Holland

Yeehaw.  Life was good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The thing I really liked about Pompei is the impluvium: the houses have courtyards, with roofs that slant toward the middle of the area, so that they cover the sides of the courtyard&#8221;  masaccio</p>
<p>Unfortunately, you would never have been able to enjoy the lovely courtyard in your husband&#8217;s or father&#8217;s house.  You would have been confined to the women&#8217;s quarters and only trotted out if your husband wanted another child or your father wanted to marry you off for material benefit to some old, Greek fart twice your age.  If you were a good little virgin, that is.  Otherwise,  daddy dearest would be selling your ass off to the slavers.</p>
<p>&#8220;Having ensured that the &#8216;good&#8217; girls were safe from any taint of sexual indiscretion, it was necessary to supply the &#8216;bad&#8217; girls to cater for men&#8217;s sexual appetites.  Solon (the great Athenian lawgiver of the sixth century BC) legalized state brothels, staffed by slaves and aliens.  While the good girls composed a single category (wives cum mothers), the bad girls were graded from the high-maintenance hetaera &#8212; the equivalent of the mistress &#8212; to the low-end street walker, who could be picked up for a few dollars near the city dumps where people went to defecate.  The whore&#8217;s sexuality was a public convenience; she was viewed in terms of a sewer that drained off men&#8217;s lust.</p>
<p>&#8220;We have hetaerae for our pleasure, concubines for our daily needs, and wives to give us legitimate children and look after the housekeeping,&#8217; Demosthenes, the greatest of the Athenian orators, is reported to have said.  This demarcation associating female virtue with sexlessness has been used to dehumanize women to this day.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Misogyny, The World&#8217;s Oldest Prejudice,&#8221; Jack Holland</p>
<p>Yeehaw.  Life was good.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/a-jolly-traipse-through-the-whorehouse-of-antiquity/#comment-28180</link>
		<author>Kenny</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've said it before, but Twisty (who's taste in cultural critics seems to run more to John Ruskin) shows how and why Walter Benjamin should have been a feminist:

"Social Democracy thought fit to assign to the working class the role of the redeemer of future generations, in this way cutting the sinews of its greatest strength. This training made the working class forget both its hatred and its spirit of sacrifice, for both are nourished by the image of enslaved ancestors rather than that of liberated grandchildren."

Women, as an oppressed class, shouldn't be confused into doing anything for the sake of their "daughters."  It's by remembering the sacrifices of their mothers that the movement is strengthened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said it before, but Twisty (who&#8217;s taste in cultural critics seems to run more to John Ruskin) shows how and why Walter Benjamin should have been a feminist:</p>
<p>&#8220;Social Democracy thought fit to assign to the working class the role of the redeemer of future generations, in this way cutting the sinews of its greatest strength. This training made the working class forget both its hatred and its spirit of sacrifice, for both are nourished by the image of enslaved ancestors rather than that of liberated grandchildren.&#8221;</p>
<p>Women, as an oppressed class, shouldn&#8217;t be confused into doing anything for the sake of their &#8220;daughters.&#8221;  It&#8217;s by remembering the sacrifices of their mothers that the movement is strengthened.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/a-jolly-traipse-through-the-whorehouse-of-antiquity/#comment-28177</link>
		<author>Leigh</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Porn qua historical artifact.  Lovely.  Especially since 'erotic artwork' is so hard to come by nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Porn qua historical artifact.  Lovely.  Especially since &#8216;erotic artwork&#8217; is so hard to come by nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: masaccio</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/a-jolly-traipse-through-the-whorehouse-of-antiquity/#comment-28175</link>
		<author>masaccio</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing I really liked about Pompei is the impluvium:  the houses have courtyards, with roofs that slant toward the middle of the area, so that they cover the sides of the courtyard, providing shadow, and when it rains, the rain falls into a pool in the middle, called the impluvium.  What a great design.  I tried to have one built in my backyard, but it was just too expensive.  I think the guide said that the  design also has the advantage of pulling air through the house in the summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I really liked about Pompei is the impluvium:  the houses have courtyards, with roofs that slant toward the middle of the area, so that they cover the sides of the courtyard, providing shadow, and when it rains, the rain falls into a pool in the middle, called the impluvium.  What a great design.  I tried to have one built in my backyard, but it was just too expensive.  I think the guide said that the  design also has the advantage of pulling air through the house in the summer.</p>
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		<author>Feminist Law Professors &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Links</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 01:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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