Comments on: UK retailer to little girls:”Let’s have a lap dance over here, luv!” http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:18:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: What if we didn’t expect girls to look like women and women to look like little girls? « Professor, What If…? http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-120173 What if we didn’t expect girls to look like women and women to look like little girls? « Professor, What If…? Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:42:00 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-120173 [...] on the stripper poles for girls phenomenon, see this post at I Blame the Patriarchy Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Cloned Beauty — The [...] [...] on the stripper poles for girls phenomenon, see this post at I Blame the Patriarchy Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Cloned Beauty — The [...]

]]> By: ThatOneXDancer http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-119277 ThatOneXDancer Thu, 29 May 2008 00:04:26 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-119277 Sex is used for power and money by both genders. If society were matriarchal, it would simply mean an exchange of roles. Only a change in human nature itself could supersede these tendencies. Such contradictory and bigoted attitudes only serve to strengthen the power base. Regarding the PeekABoo pole being marketed to young girls, it is offensive for a number of reasons. It would be interesting to know whether it is the fathers or the mothers who are buying this garbage...I know that my father would NEVER have bought something like this for me. Regardless, I believe the parent who buys this item for their little girl is irresponsible...period. Sex is used for power and money by both genders. If society were matriarchal, it would simply mean an exchange of roles. Only a change in human nature itself could supersede these tendencies.

Such contradictory and bigoted attitudes only serve to strengthen the power base.

Regarding the PeekABoo pole being marketed to young girls, it is offensive for a number of reasons. It would be interesting to know whether it is the fathers or the mothers who are buying this garbage…I know that my father would NEVER have bought something like this for me. Regardless, I believe the parent who buys this item for their little girl is irresponsible…period.

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]]> By: Rachael http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-51797 Rachael Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:35:59 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-51797 Hello, I just came across this article while looking up negative views about peekaboo pole dancing. I am a member of a community of women and men who are interested in pole fitness. I am not here to have a go at any of the views, quite the opposite. I take great offence to the whole peekaboo brand. They do not help, they promote seriously negative views about women in my opinion. Women should not aspire to be sex objects! I know first hand that pole dancing does not have to be about having an audience, or about taking any clothes off! It is seriously undermining what can be a very demanding physical activity, if practiced for the right reasons. It should be called pole stripping kit, as thats the only skill required by Peekaboo's "tuition". I have my own pole in my house (NOT a peekaboo they are ridiculously poorly made and quite frankly dangerous to use for anything other than a bit of mindless wiggling :/ ) and I do not practice pole dance for any other reason than my own fitness and enjoyment. And i do not believe I have been tricked by the patriarchy into believing I'm being empowered. I know MANY other dancers who want to distance the pole dancing we do to the idea of strippers in clubs, and despise the Peekaboo brand. If more was done to distance ourselves from the type of image which peekaboo promotes, perhaps more men would be want to be involved, or at least feel better about looking into it. At the moment they are definetly in the minority which is sad, as the ones who do are very skilled. My mother is in her 60's and has very devout religious beliefs, and she presumed like everyone else that doing pole dancing makes me a stripper. I asked her to watch what i do, and she is now immensely proud of me, as she appreciates how difficult it is and how physically fit I've become! If it was about being sexy, do you think I'd show my catholic mother? Anyway, I don't wish to offend, I just hope anyone reading this will remember there are two sides to pole dancing. Hello,
I just came across this article while looking up negative views about peekaboo pole dancing. I am a member of a community of women and men who are interested in pole fitness. I am not here to have a go at any of the views, quite the opposite. I take great offence to the whole peekaboo brand. They do not help, they promote seriously negative views about women in my opinion. Women should not aspire to be sex objects! I know first hand that pole dancing does not have to be about having an audience, or about taking any clothes off! It is seriously undermining what can be a very demanding physical activity, if practiced for the right reasons. It should be called pole stripping kit, as thats the only skill required by Peekaboo’s “tuition”. I have my own pole in my house (NOT a peekaboo they are ridiculously poorly made and quite frankly dangerous to use for anything other than a bit of mindless wiggling :/ ) and I do not practice pole dance for any other reason than my own fitness and enjoyment. And i do not believe I have been tricked by the patriarchy into believing I’m being empowered. I know MANY other dancers who want to distance the pole dancing we do to the idea of strippers in clubs, and despise the Peekaboo brand. If more was done to distance ourselves from the type of image which peekaboo promotes, perhaps more men would be want to be involved, or at least feel better about looking into it. At the moment they are definetly in the minority which is sad, as the ones who do are very skilled.
My mother is in her 60’s and has very devout religious beliefs, and she presumed like everyone else that doing pole dancing makes me a stripper. I asked her to watch what i do, and she is now immensely proud of me, as she appreciates how difficult it is and how physically fit I’ve become! If it was about being sexy, do you think I’d show my catholic mother?
Anyway, I don’t wish to offend, I just hope anyone reading this will remember there are two sides to pole dancing.

]]> By: appletree » Blog Archive » Wednesday Outrage: ‘It’s harder than I thought it would be’ Edition http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-29871 appletree » Blog Archive » Wednesday Outrage: ‘It’s harder than I thought it would be’ Edition Thu, 07 Dec 2006 03:59:19 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-29871 [...] If you want to do something crazy for your daughter this Christmas, but not quite so crazy as having her arrested, give her the Peekaboo Pole Dance Kit. [...] [...] If you want to do something crazy for your daughter this Christmas, but not quite so crazy as having her arrested, give her the Peekaboo Pole Dance Kit. [...]

]]> By: Crys_T http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-28505 Crys_T Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:52:48 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-28505 What Delphyne said to Nia. Enough with trashing women for looking like "street-corner prostitutes" or "vulgar." Also, as a Spaniard who's lived in the UK for 8 years, I have to disagree with Nia anyway: women with hypersexualised appearances don't seem to me to be any more frequent in these 2 countries than they are anywhere else in the Western world. Though I have to add that such definitions can be in the eye of the beholder anyway. For some people, showing your damn elbows is "provocative". What Delphyne said to Nia. Enough with trashing women for looking like “street-corner prostitutes” or “vulgar.”

Also, as a Spaniard who’s lived in the UK for 8 years, I have to disagree with Nia anyway: women with hypersexualised appearances don’t seem to me to be any more frequent in these 2 countries than they are anywhere else in the Western world. Though I have to add that such definitions can be in the eye of the beholder anyway. For some people, showing your damn elbows is “provocative”.

]]> By: hkreader http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-28308 hkreader Wed, 01 Nov 2006 05:12:03 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-28308 re: jnthnu's comment: Oct 28th, 2006 at 3:14 pm "I haven’t seen any pimp accessories for little boys yet, but I’m sure that’s because I’m not looking hard enough." Yup, and I wasn't even looking for it. At the university where I work, there was a sale on Halloween costumes for kids and adults. My 10-year-old daughter and I were looking for a black cape for her zombie outfit and she saw some sort of ring/cup thing (accessory) that said "PIMP" on it. "Mama, what's a pimp?" "A man who lives off the earnings of prostitutes. They often hurt the women who 'work" for them" "YUCK! Why would someone want something that says that?" "Because some gross people think it's cool" I blame the patriarchy & am trying to teach my daughter to do the same. re:
jnthnu’s comment: Oct 28th, 2006 at 3:14 pm

“I haven’t seen any pimp accessories for little boys yet, but I’m sure that’s because I’m not looking hard enough.”

Yup, and I wasn’t even looking for it.

At the university where I work, there was a sale on Halloween costumes for kids and adults. My 10-year-old daughter and I were looking for a black cape for her zombie outfit and she saw some sort of ring/cup thing (accessory) that said “PIMP” on it.

“Mama, what’s a pimp?”

“A man who lives off the earnings of prostitutes. They often hurt the women who ‘work” for them”

“YUCK! Why would someone want something that says that?”

“Because some gross people think it’s cool”

I blame the patriarchy & am trying to teach my daughter to do the same.

]]> By: Catherine Martell http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-28189 Catherine Martell Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:41:13 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-28189 Much as I get that the Peekaboo pole is revolting, could we please stop describing other women as sluts, slags, whores, or indeed 'the worst kind of street-corner prostitute'? I'm with Delphyne and Catharine Mackinnon on this one. Never forget that we live in a patriarchy. For most women, their best choice for social and economic success - often, their only choice - is to do what it tells them. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: there are only two industries in which women earn more than men (at a non-managerial level, of course), and they are modelling and porn. Furthermore, for most women in the world, marriage is still the key to a better standard of living. And what do you need to succeed in modelling, porn or marriage? Send in comedy answers by all means, but the truth is you need youth, looks and a willingness to comply. When Nia scolds British women - or any women - for their 'very silly obsession' with vulgar sexuality, she misses the point. Their obsession is logical. By playing the patriarchy game, these women effectively maximise their chances of socio-economic success. Realistically, if women were judged on their intelligence, ambition, talent and hard work, like men are, I believe you'd see far fewer dressing up like strippers and pretending to enjoy pole dancing. The entity responsible for a society in which women are rewarded for appeasing men is not slutty, immoral women. Can you guess what the entity responsible is? Clue: it begins with 'p', and ends with 'atriarchy'. This doesn't mean that we should rush out to buy Peekaboo kits for out daughters. Most women (and men?) who read and post here probably do their best to blame the patriarchy, fight it and change it. But one of the steps to that goal is to avoid describing other women in the patriarchy's own disgusting, hateful language, or judging them on their sexual morality. For me, that's where the argument tips over from feminism into the extreme conservative right-wing. Goddamn patriarchy. I bet it made Etch-A-Sketch, too. Much as I get that the Peekaboo pole is revolting, could we please stop describing other women as sluts, slags, whores, or indeed ‘the worst kind of street-corner prostitute’?

I’m with Delphyne and Catharine Mackinnon on this one. Never forget that we live in a patriarchy. For most women, their best choice for social and economic success – often, their only choice – is to do what it tells them. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: there are only two industries in which women earn more than men (at a non-managerial level, of course), and they are modelling and porn. Furthermore, for most women in the world, marriage is still the key to a better standard of living.

And what do you need to succeed in modelling, porn or marriage? Send in comedy answers by all means, but the truth is you need youth, looks and a willingness to comply. When Nia scolds British women – or any women – for their ‘very silly obsession’ with vulgar sexuality, she misses the point. Their obsession is logical. By playing the patriarchy game, these women effectively maximise their chances of socio-economic success.

Realistically, if women were judged on their intelligence, ambition, talent and hard work, like men are, I believe you’d see far fewer dressing up like strippers and pretending to enjoy pole dancing. The entity responsible for a society in which women are rewarded for appeasing men is not slutty, immoral women. Can you guess what the entity responsible is? Clue: it begins with ‘p’, and ends with ‘atriarchy’.

This doesn’t mean that we should rush out to buy Peekaboo kits for out daughters. Most women (and men?) who read and post here probably do their best to blame the patriarchy, fight it and change it. But one of the steps to that goal is to avoid describing other women in the patriarchy’s own disgusting, hateful language, or judging them on their sexual morality. For me, that’s where the argument tips over from feminism into the extreme conservative right-wing.

Goddamn patriarchy. I bet it made Etch-A-Sketch, too.

]]> By: grrr kitty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-28188 grrr kitty Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:38:14 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-28188 When I was little I thought my mom was being unfairly harsh by forbidding me Barbie dolls because they're an "inappropriate role model for little girls". Now I thank the deities that my mother was a visionary (this was the ripe ol' year of 19 and 64, fellow blamers). This pole-dancing "toy" is sickening, whether or not it's misclassfied. "Cheeky fun" is putting black jellybeans up your nose then picking them out and eating them in crowded elevators. This is just odious. When I was little I thought my mom was being unfairly harsh by forbidding me Barbie dolls because they’re an “inappropriate role model for little girls”. Now I thank the deities that my mother was a visionary (this was the ripe ol’ year of 19 and 64, fellow blamers).

This pole-dancing “toy” is sickening, whether or not it’s misclassfied. “Cheeky fun” is putting black jellybeans up your nose then picking them out and eating them in crowded elevators. This is just odious.

]]> By: teffie-phd http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-28182 teffie-phd Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:59:49 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/10/28/uk-retailer-to-little-girlslets-have-a-lap-dance-over-here-luv/#comment-28182 I hate Christmas, etch-a-sketches and patriarchal toys for girls. I do have lots of new examples to trot out to my students to "prove" sexism. Sigh. Fucking patriarchy. I hate Christmas, etch-a-sketches and patriarchal toys for girls.

I do have lots of new examples to trot out to my students to “prove” sexism. Sigh.

Fucking patriarchy.

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