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You know what, I don’t protest the need for those who were coerced or forced into the sex industry to have protection insofar as they can have it in that line of work, but for those women who have many many many many other choices for work (although they may bring in less dough and be harder, boo hoo HOO), and for those women who have been educated on how roundly HARMFUL the sex industry is to women inside and outside the industry, and how it affects men’s perceptions of women as a gender, it is so unbelievably blockheaded to sit there and defend your choice. I don’t dispute for one minute that Imogene has made a choice. However, it’s like saying you make the choice to go back to your pedophile husband (since as a footnote, he makes a lot of money and you won’t have to work), even though he molested you and your kids, and then crowing that since you’re female, this must be viewed as an empowering feminist choice. Just because you’re a feminist on a few fronts doesn’t mean you’re supporting feminism on all fronts, or that you aren’t undercutting it in a MAJOR way. Feminism, when morphing into pluralism and positivism, starts looking suspiciously like backlash. It also starts to resemble a big old justification for buying into those aspects of the patriarchy that benefit one’s personal life. Patriarchy has always been supported by some women, and here we have another example. But, of course, I’m sure anyone can find some vague postmodernist post-post-feminist way of justifying their need for quick cash if they try hard enough.

Funny how, since the feminist revolution of the 60s/70s, the sex industry isn’t shrinking, it’s growing. Porn (which AIN’T sex) is becoming more violent and degrading, and the methods for procuring new “talent” are becoming more devious. Kids in war zones and women from poor countries and all that fun stuff. Don’t think that if you work in sex work, you aren’t contributing to that contiuum. Also, with all the crowing about women claiming our unfettered sexuality, society’s outlook on sex is still ridiculously lopsided and all the material seems to look the same.

Oh and on the subject of trannies and constructed gender, the whole fucking point of trying to identify gender as a construct was to elucidate how humans of both sexes are actually mentally quite androgynous, and can have the whole range of human emotional and personality traits. NOT to have everyone stuck in either a male or female stereotype but allow some crossover via invasive and unnecessary surgery.

Maribelle, I agree with your original message. But you do talk white.

You’re not calling me a bitch, now are you? :P

Pony said:
You know; I’m a half-breed don’t you dare call me that though.

Hey, me too! I’m apparently half human and half pitbull! :P

Ok, ok, you’re both right. No, I usually don’t identify with dogs. A domesticated animal that obeys their master’s commands, eats its own shit and is considered man’s best friend. I really, really don’t think men consider me their best friend tho. Altho I’m sure there’s more than a few of them out there that really do wish I’d eat shit and obey them. And then their alarm clocks go off and they wake up.

In context tho, I really don’t think Maribelle’s comparison of me to a pitbull was meant to be an insult. So I didn’t take it as one. I knew what she was trying to say and why. So it made me laugh. Had it been a man that made the remark, however, I might have obliged him and acted like one and promptly bit his nuts off. :P Altho pitbulls are more noted for for latching on and locking their jaws and then shaking what’s between their clenched teeth, to and fro. Which might make for a more interesting visual. :P

But any ways, thank you, Pony, you know you’re my hero. Altho I wish you’d quit being as bad as I am about reading your pms. You’ve had one sitting in your box over at gendersburg since Oct.

And nah, I’m not scary, Maribelle. I just ferociously love women is all. What’s so scary about that? Yeah, I know, I know, we as womenm aren’t use to that. It’s just totally radical.