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		<title>By: Blogger on the Cast Iron Balcony &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mugged by Mugler, Galled by Galliano</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-108713</link>
		<author>Blogger on the Cast Iron Balcony &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mugged by Mugler, Galled by Galliano</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is hilarious when she takes aim at fads like the &#8220;Sport Corset&#8221; and &#8220;crippling sexbot footwear&#8220;. She points out (not the first to do so, or the last) that wearing such clothes and shoes is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is hilarious when she takes aim at fads like the &#8220;Sport Corset&#8221; and &#8220;crippling sexbot footwear&#8220;. She points out (not the first to do so, or the last) that wearing such clothes and shoes is [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Forget traditional torture: They should have made those prisoners walk in high heels, all the time &#8212; ShoeBlog</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-89646</link>
		<author>Forget traditional torture: They should have made those prisoners walk in high heels, all the time &#8212; ShoeBlog</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-89646</guid>
		<description>[...] the comments to a post by my favorite rad-fem ever, Twisty at I Blame the Patriarchy, comes this gruesome [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the comments to a post by my favorite rad-fem ever, Twisty at I Blame the Patriarchy, comes this gruesome [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Reverse Paranoia &#124; the cat lady speaks</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-32112</link>
		<author>Reverse Paranoia &#124; the cat lady speaks</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-32112</guid>
		<description>[...] If the moral highground is just another hill on your golf course, though, and you want to participate in your own objectification and call it &#8220;fun feminism&#8221;, thereby bagging a better job, a spot in the VIP lounge, and a swarthy Heathcliff to boot, I&#8217;m not going to knock you. Well, maybe a little. Twisty already did me one better: you&#8217;re not a bad feminist, just a hypocrite. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] If the moral highground is just another hill on your golf course, though, and you want to participate in your own objectification and call it &#8220;fun feminism&#8221;, thereby bagging a better job, a spot in the VIP lounge, and a swarthy Heathcliff to boot, I&#8217;m not going to knock you. Well, maybe a little. Twisty already did me one better: you&#8217;re not a bad feminist, just a hypocrite. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: cranterp</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29711</link>
		<author>cranterp</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 06:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29711</guid>
		<description>Ktal:  In my arbitrary system, you also get 10 points for caring about this.  The synopsis (which is the tip of the proverbial iceberg) is that Deaf people (capital D deaf, culturally Deaf people) feel that they aren't handicapped or disabled, they just have a linguistic difference.  They disagree with the medical community that they need to be "cured" or be "more like hearing people."  This has impacts that range from educational philosophies to parenting philosophis to cochlear implants and beyond.  It's a very controversial issue.  I could never adequately explain this, and this blog really isn't the forum for this.  If you'd like to learn more about it, you should read "Inside Deaf Culture" by Tom Humphries and Carol Padden.  You're also welcome to email me.  (emilyki@goshen.edu)  I'm very sorry if this is an inappropriate location for me to give someone my contact information. I'm new at this and I'm positive that I'll make some online etiquette flubs.  I'm sorry in advance.

Pony: We actually learned about Hilda Campbell in class last year in our unit about influential Deaf women.  Woot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ktal:  In my arbitrary system, you also get 10 points for caring about this.  The synopsis (which is the tip of the proverbial iceberg) is that Deaf people (capital D deaf, culturally Deaf people) feel that they aren&#8217;t handicapped or disabled, they just have a linguistic difference.  They disagree with the medical community that they need to be &#8220;cured&#8221; or be &#8220;more like hearing people.&#8221;  This has impacts that range from educational philosophies to parenting philosophis to cochlear implants and beyond.  It&#8217;s a very controversial issue.  I could never adequately explain this, and this blog really isn&#8217;t the forum for this.  If you&#8217;d like to learn more about it, you should read &#8220;Inside Deaf Culture&#8221; by Tom Humphries and Carol Padden.  You&#8217;re also welcome to email me.  (emilyki@goshen.edu)  I&#8217;m very sorry if this is an inappropriate location for me to give someone my contact information. I&#8217;m new at this and I&#8217;m positive that I&#8217;ll make some online etiquette flubs.  I&#8217;m sorry in advance.</p>
<p>Pony: We actually learned about Hilda Campbell in class last year in our unit about influential Deaf women.  Woot.</p>
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		<title>By: saltyC</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29709</link>
		<author>saltyC</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 06:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29709</guid>
		<description>Chiming in that racism is everyone's problem, even to those who are on the nice end of white supremacy. I can see how a black woman rolling her eyes and saying "white women" would make me react and be offended, but that's because of my privilege. I can see that Shawn Bell's (sp?) murder will be rationalized away and nobody will pay, and it's no skin off the nose of most whites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chiming in that racism is everyone&#8217;s problem, even to those who are on the nice end of white supremacy. I can see how a black woman rolling her eyes and saying &#8220;white women&#8221; would make me react and be offended, but that&#8217;s because of my privilege. I can see that Shawn Bell&#8217;s (sp?) murder will be rationalized away and nobody will pay, and it&#8217;s no skin off the nose of most whites.</p>
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		<title>By: cranterp</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29704</link>
		<author>cranterp</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 04:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29704</guid>
		<description>KTal:  In my arbitrary points system, you get 10 points for caring about this. Deaf people who use ASL and consider themselves part of Deaf culture don't consider themselves "handicapped."  While it's true that they can't hear, they consider themselves merely a group with a linguistic difference.  They don't see it as a disability or handicap, they see themselves as a group whose native language is ASL and not English. They don't want to be "cured" or to "be like hearing people," because they don't see themselves as having a problem.  This view extends in many different directions, including education, cochlear implants, and all sorts of fun (and controversy).  This is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg, and it would take a long, long time for me to adequately explain this. I know I wouldn't do a very good job, either.  If you'd like to learn more about this, read "Inside Deaf Culture" by Tom Humphries and Carol Padden.  Or, click on the link that Pony posted and read about that book.

Pony: We talked about that book in one of my classes last year, and I think we may have watched a video with Hilda Campbell in it.  I'm not positive about the video, but I know she was mentioned in our unit about influential Deaf women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KTal:  In my arbitrary points system, you get 10 points for caring about this. Deaf people who use ASL and consider themselves part of Deaf culture don&#8217;t consider themselves &#8220;handicapped.&#8221;  While it&#8217;s true that they can&#8217;t hear, they consider themselves merely a group with a linguistic difference.  They don&#8217;t see it as a disability or handicap, they see themselves as a group whose native language is ASL and not English. They don&#8217;t want to be &#8220;cured&#8221; or to &#8220;be like hearing people,&#8221; because they don&#8217;t see themselves as having a problem.  This view extends in many different directions, including education, cochlear implants, and all sorts of fun (and controversy).  This is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg, and it would take a long, long time for me to adequately explain this. I know I wouldn&#8217;t do a very good job, either.  If you&#8217;d like to learn more about this, read &#8220;Inside Deaf Culture&#8221; by Tom Humphries and Carol Padden.  Or, click on the link that Pony posted and read about that book.</p>
<p>Pony: We talked about that book in one of my classes last year, and I think we may have watched a video with Hilda Campbell in it.  I&#8217;m not positive about the video, but I know she was mentioned in our unit about influential Deaf women.</p>
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		<title>By: KTal</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29702</link>
		<author>KTal</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 04:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29702</guid>
		<description>I care about racism Mar, as I have seen its effects and live in a culture where it is widespread.  It is insidious and I do believe it is very much a part of the oppressive culture we live under, just another facet of it.

Canterp: "10 points for recognizing the difference between cultural Deafness and the medical condition of deafness."

I've never heard of 'cultural deafness' as oppossed to the medical condition, Pony or Canterp, please educate me. I want to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I care about racism Mar, as I have seen its effects and live in a culture where it is widespread.  It is insidious and I do believe it is very much a part of the oppressive culture we live under, just another facet of it.</p>
<p>Canterp: &#8220;10 points for recognizing the difference between cultural Deafness and the medical condition of deafness.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of &#8216;cultural deafness&#8217; as oppossed to the medical condition, Pony or Canterp, please educate me. I want to know.</p>
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		<title>By: {the right tools for the job} at The Republic of Dogs</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29699</link>
		<author>{the right tools for the job} at The Republic of Dogs</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29699</guid>
		<description>[...] This little flap has generated some pretty great commentary. Shakespeare&#8217;s Sister wrote a predictably excellent post in which she admitted that using words like &#8220;whore&#8221; and &#8220;cunt&#8221; is basically fun, but points out that this doesn&#8217;t really mitigate the ethical problems with that sort of language. In this, she echoes a point often made by Twisty Faster when her comment threads become infested by people who are not simply content to admit that they like lipstick or high heels or giving head, but want to claim that these things are actually forms of feminist praxis that empower women. Twisty&#8217;s basic point, if I understand it correctly, is usually that women understandably do a lot of things to survive under patriarchy, but no one ought to delude themselves by calling their compromises with patriarchy &#8220;feminism&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This little flap has generated some pretty great commentary. Shakespeare&#8217;s Sister wrote a predictably excellent post in which she admitted that using words like &#8220;whore&#8221; and &#8220;cunt&#8221; is basically fun, but points out that this doesn&#8217;t really mitigate the ethical problems with that sort of language. In this, she echoes a point often made by Twisty Faster when her comment threads become infested by people who are not simply content to admit that they like lipstick or high heels or giving head, but want to claim that these things are actually forms of feminist praxis that empower women. Twisty&#8217;s basic point, if I understand it correctly, is usually that women understandably do a lot of things to survive under patriarchy, but no one ought to delude themselves by calling their compromises with patriarchy &#8220;feminism&#8221;. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Mar Iguana</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29691</link>
		<author>Mar Iguana</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 23:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29691</guid>
		<description>I could give one flying cock about racism (never) as the only oppressed folks I give a damn about are women (always).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could give one flying cock about racism (never) as the only oppressed folks I give a damn about are women (always).</p>
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		<title>By: cranterp</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29681</link>
		<author>cranterp</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 19:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/11/26/873/#comment-29681</guid>
		<description>You really don't think that starting a phrase with, "According to [insert socially constructed racial group here] people" isn't racist?  Seriously?  When talking about race, using words like "always" and "never" isn't the greatest idea, m'dear.

Isn't the whole point of self-examination and discussion about racism or oppression of any group to realize how pervasive and insidious the racism/oppression actually is?  I think putting boundaries on it and saying, "Making racist comments of this nature is bad, but making racist comments of this other nature is not bad.  I'm not a racist at all because you're more of one."  I'm seeing a flaw there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really don&#8217;t think that starting a phrase with, &#8220;According to [insert socially constructed racial group here] people&#8221; isn&#8217;t racist?  Seriously?  When talking about race, using words like &#8220;always&#8221; and &#8220;never&#8221; isn&#8217;t the greatest idea, m&#8217;dear.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the whole point of self-examination and discussion about racism or oppression of any group to realize how pervasive and insidious the racism/oppression actually is?  I think putting boundaries on it and saying, &#8220;Making racist comments of this nature is bad, but making racist comments of this other nature is not bad.  I&#8217;m not a racist at all because you&#8217;re more of one.&#8221;  I&#8217;m seeing a flaw there.</p>
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