Comments on: Public Cans of Austin: Café Caffeine http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/ Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:53:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Ron Sullivan http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29870 Ron Sullivan Thu, 07 Dec 2006 03:45:30 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29870 Thank you, grrr kitty. (Did I spell that right?I keep forgetting to count the "r"s.) We avoided the giant Jeebus thing as much as possible; guess that's why we missed the snakes. Weirdly, we did go see the Thorncrown Chapel, because I'd heard about it from some architect or other. I do like it. It fits into its surroundings beautifully, by being practically invisible -- mostly because the structural elements' angles echo the branch angles of the little oaks in the forest around it. It's the aesthetic antonym of that huge statue on the othe side of town. We spent a couple of weeks in Alma, near Van Buren, and ditto on the paradise thing. Beau Thai? See, I'd eat at a place called "Beau Thai" just for the sake of the awful pun. I buy <a href="http://cloverstornetta.com/clothecow/billboards.html" rel="nofollow">Clover</a> milk to support their ads. I have worse habits but they're not fit for public exposure. No, that's not one of them either. But shop names, yeesh. There's a store right across from the Liquor Barn, I mean Bev' Mo, or whatever it is this year, and its name is barely legible because its sign is so graphically clever. And it's something so abstruse (I've forgotten it, it's so abstruse) that I have no idea, after passing it for two years or so, what it sells. Somehow that doesn't excite my normally intense windowshopper curiosity. Maybe I'm just getting old and cynical. And caffeine is a great thing but if it isn't No-Doz they're selling, isn't the selling point that it should taste good? Thank you, grrr kitty. (Did I spell that right?I keep forgetting to count the “r”s.) We avoided the giant Jeebus thing as much as possible; guess that’s why we missed the snakes. Weirdly, we did go see the Thorncrown Chapel, because I’d heard about it from some architect or other. I do like it. It fits into its surroundings beautifully, by being practically invisible — mostly because the structural elements’ angles echo the branch angles of the little oaks in the forest around it. It’s the aesthetic antonym of that huge statue on the othe side of town.

We spent a couple of weeks in Alma, near Van Buren, and ditto on the paradise thing.

Beau Thai? See, I’d eat at a place called “Beau Thai” just for the sake of the awful pun. I buy Clover milk to support their ads. I have worse habits but they’re not fit for public exposure. No, that’s not one of them either.

But shop names, yeesh. There’s a store right across from the Liquor Barn, I mean Bev’ Mo, or whatever it is this year, and its name is barely legible because its sign is so graphically clever. And it’s something so abstruse (I’ve forgotten it, it’s so abstruse) that I have no idea, after passing it for two years or so, what it sells. Somehow that doesn’t excite my normally intense windowshopper curiosity. Maybe I’m just getting old and cynical. And caffeine is a great thing but if it isn’t No-Doz they’re selling, isn’t the selling point that it should taste good?

]]> By: josquin http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29799 josquin Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:07:50 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29799 pls ignore the lack of agreement between the words 'pun' and "don't'. Should be 'doesn't'. Dang I hate this little walk of shame we do when we spot typos right after we post! pls ignore the lack of agreement between the words ‘pun’ and “don’t’. Should be ‘doesn’t’.

Dang I hate this little walk of shame we do when we spot typos right after we post!

]]> By: josquin http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29798 josquin Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:04:20 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29798 Ha ha! I love Otown for falling for the Beau Thai pun. It's something I might have done, and bless her/him for beating me to it. I also scorn businesses who use a pun in the name which don't even have anything to do with the nature of the business. It would be one thing if "bow tie" was the also the name of a Thai delicacy, but no, it was just a random pun. Mandos is on to something. Most behaviors/attitudes don't fall neatly into "learned" and "innate" categories. They come about as a result of a weaving together of inborn templates and life experience. They build upon each other in a rather complex way with feedback loops etc. I could go on about this in regard to race descrimination, concepts of beauty, etc. but I won't. Ha ha! I love Otown for falling for the Beau Thai pun.
It’s something I might have done, and bless her/him for beating me to it.
I also scorn businesses who use a pun in the name which don’t even have anything to do with the nature of the business.
It would be one thing if “bow tie” was the also the name of a Thai delicacy, but no, it was just a random pun.
Mandos is on to something. Most behaviors/attitudes don’t fall neatly into “learned” and “innate” categories. They come about as a result of a weaving together of inborn templates and life experience. They build upon each other in a rather complex way with feedback loops etc.
I could go on about this in regard to race descrimination, concepts of beauty, etc. but I won’t.

]]> By: grrr kitty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29797 grrr kitty Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:00:25 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29797 Hey, Ron, the Snake Museum is right in the same neighborhood as where they stage the Ozark Passion Play Extravaganza. It's along Route 62 at any rate. If you're traveling west, it'll be on your right. When you sit on the back porch of Aunt Pat's house in the late afternoon and watch the shadows of the clouds moving over the mountains, it's damn near paradisical, and almost enough to make you forget that the Grand Poohbah of the KKK lives on the next mountain over. Almost. Hey, Ron, the Snake Museum is right in the same neighborhood as where they stage the Ozark Passion Play Extravaganza. It’s along Route 62 at any rate. If you’re traveling west, it’ll be on your right.

When you sit on the back porch of Aunt Pat’s house in the late afternoon and watch the shadows of the clouds moving over the mountains, it’s damn near paradisical, and almost enough to make you forget that the Grand Poohbah of the KKK lives on the next mountain over. Almost.

]]> By: Otown http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29790 Otown Wed, 06 Dec 2006 06:19:40 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29790 Ohhhhh. I said it out loud right *after* posting. Pretty much any other adjective-Thai combination would have sounded silly, though. Ohhhhh. I said it out loud right *after* posting. Pretty much any other adjective-Thai combination would have sounded silly, though.

]]> By: Otown http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29789 Otown Wed, 06 Dec 2006 06:16:55 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29789 What's so bad about Beau Thai? What’s so bad about Beau Thai?

]]> By: scratchy888 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29788 scratchy888 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 03:09:51 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29788 <blockquote>Somebody up there — and I’d be very surprised if it wasn’t Mandos Mandos Mandos — observed that my argument (that the “need” for ritual is a learned behavior, and therefore is not really a “need” at all) hinges on a fallacy. That the condition of learned behavior and “deep need” are not necessarily mutually exclusive. This is of course correct, given that everything is “natural.” </blockquote> I think that might be known as the originative fallacy. Or maybe it isn't. Yet there is a truth which requires to be acknowledged, that just because one has to learn something (for example, language) does not mean that it isn't natural for humans to learn it. I would say that manipulation of others, however, does require the capacity to think about 'natural' as having at least two levels. It might be 'natural' to manipulate the others' 'natural' gullibility.

Somebody up there — and I’d be very surprised if it wasn’t Mandos Mandos Mandos — observed that my argument (that the “need” for ritual is a learned behavior, and therefore is not really a “need” at all) hinges on a fallacy. That the condition of learned behavior and “deep need” are not necessarily mutually exclusive. This is of course correct, given that everything is “natural.”

I think that might be known as the originative fallacy. Or maybe it isn’t. Yet there is a truth which requires to be acknowledged, that just because one has to learn something (for example, language) does not mean that it isn’t natural for humans to learn it. I would say that manipulation of others, however, does require the capacity to think about ‘natural’ as having at least two levels. It might be ‘natural’ to manipulate the others’ ‘natural’ gullibility.

]]> By: L2 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29786 L2 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:50:58 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29786 Yes, but you failed to answer the truly important question here. How's the coffee?? Yes, but you failed to answer the truly important question here. How’s the coffee??

]]> By: cranterp http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29785 cranterp Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:20:08 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29785 The snake thing reminded me of a sign I saw in northern Ohio advertising Seneca Caverns (why it reminded me of this I have no idea). The slogan some PR genius has chosen to use is, "Seneca Caverns: The Earth's Crack." Doesn't that make you all want to crawl right in and perhaps buy a lovely memento for your nearest and dearest? The snake thing reminded me of a sign I saw in northern Ohio advertising Seneca Caverns (why it reminded me of this I have no idea). The slogan some PR genius has chosen to use is, “Seneca Caverns: The Earth’s Crack.” Doesn’t that make you all want to crawl right in and perhaps buy a lovely memento for your nearest and dearest?

]]> By: Ron Sullivan http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29784 Ron Sullivan Tue, 05 Dec 2006 23:23:36 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/03/public-cans-of-austin-cafe-caffeine/#comment-29784 BDL: <i>My Python–Blessed Be His Name!–told me to confess to being a serial wood butcher and to tie this all up.</i> Must be something in the air. Shep's been acting restless all day, which is odd for a nocturnal snake. I do recall a book about fine woodworking that made reference to "the woodbutcher's art" -- somebody having noticed that trees are alive, I suppose. M,M,M:Not merely “not mutually exclusive”, but quite possibly necessarily connected. Aw, now you've gone off into the vague end of abstraction. "Necessarily"? grrr kitty: <i>Snake Museum</i> How in hell did we miss that? All that rambling around Arkansas two years ago, and we didn't see the Snake Museum? All right, time for another drive. I'm under considerable pressure to avoid Texas completely this time, but geez. BDL: My Python–Blessed Be His Name!–told me to confess to being a serial wood butcher and to tie this all up.

Must be something in the air. Shep’s been acting restless all day, which is odd for a nocturnal snake.

I do recall a book about fine woodworking that made reference to “the woodbutcher’s art” — somebody having noticed that trees are alive, I suppose.

M,M,M:Not merely “not mutually exclusive”, but quite possibly necessarily connected.

Aw, now you’ve gone off into the vague end of abstraction. “Necessarily”?

grrr kitty: Snake Museum

How in hell did we miss that? All that rambling around Arkansas two years ago, and we didn’t see the Snake Museum? All right, time for another drive. I’m under considerable pressure to avoid Texas completely this time, but geez.

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