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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/10/good-for-sandwiches-bad-for-women/#comment-154137</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Genius analogy!  I&#039;ve recently begun using some Twisty quotes to enliven my Facebook page (I know, I know) and this one will be a nice addition to my first patriarchy-blaming, ex-high-school-classmate-shocking post which had something to do with how it&#039;s totally my choice to kill the sac o&#039; cells residing in my body for ANY REASON, regardless of its &quot;tiny cuteness.&quot;  Thanks, Twisty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genius analogy!  I&#8217;ve recently begun using some Twisty quotes to enliven my Facebook page (I know, I know) and this one will be a nice addition to my first patriarchy-blaming, ex-high-school-classmate-shocking post which had something to do with how it&#8217;s totally my choice to kill the sac o&#8217; cells residing in my body for ANY REASON, regardless of its &#8220;tiny cuteness.&#8221;  Thanks, Twisty.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/10/good-for-sandwiches-bad-for-women/#comment-31486</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 02:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twisty, I want you to know that you are the second person in my entire personal world who has any inkling about that Warner Brothers cartoon. Yes, that one which has always been one of my favorites. I sing that song all the time. Family of owls who play classical music. Only. One young owlet who wants to SWING!!! Yeah, baby!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twisty, I want you to know that you are the second person in my entire personal world who has any inkling about that Warner Brothers cartoon. Yes, that one which has always been one of my favorites. I sing that song all the time. Family of owls who play classical music. Only. One young owlet who wants to SWING!!! Yeah, baby!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mar Iguana</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/10/good-for-sandwiches-bad-for-women/#comment-30598</link>
		<dc:creator>Mar Iguana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haaa.  &quot;Goggle.&quot;  Maybe that&#039;s the problem, foggy goggles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haaa.  &#8220;Goggle.&#8221;  Maybe that&#8217;s the problem, foggy goggles.</p>
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		<title>By: Mar Iguana</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/10/good-for-sandwiches-bad-for-women/#comment-30597</link>
		<dc:creator>Mar Iguana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>manometer, 1 : an instrument (as a pressure gauge) for measuring the 
pressure of gases and vapors</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>manometer, 1 : an instrument (as a pressure gauge) for measuring the<br />
pressure of gases and vapors</p>
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		<title>By: Mar Iguana</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/10/good-for-sandwiches-bad-for-women/#comment-30596</link>
		<dc:creator>Mar Iguana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Precisely.  Did YOU have to goggle it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely.  Did YOU have to goggle it?</p>
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		<title>By: Mandos</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/10/good-for-sandwiches-bad-for-women/#comment-30588</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manometers: http://www.meriam.com/main.asp?m=3&amp;d=65</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manometers: <a href="http://www.meriam.com/main.asp?m=3&amp;d=65" rel="nofollow">http://www.meriam.com/main.asp?m=3&amp;d=65</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mar Iguana</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/10/good-for-sandwiches-bad-for-women/#comment-30582</link>
		<dc:creator>Mar Iguana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My manometer is reading loopy blowback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My manometer is reading loopy blowback.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandos</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/10/good-for-sandwiches-bad-for-women/#comment-30554</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now that Maiken is gone, youâ€™re whacking yourself off to get back to being the male centre of attention here, arenâ€™t you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As you probably know, I am very jealous of my position here.

I read your links and the first link is pretty interesting.  Some of the others are less directly relevant.  But I was more interested in why people *here* would say that, because I&#039;m interested in the all the possible variants of the theory.  I mean,

&lt;blockquote&gt;But who do males actively and systemically punish, everywhere in the world? Single mothers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I mean, I know this (as you correctly note), but The Patriarchy could be, for instance, misguided or whatever.  It can&#039;t be directly inferred that single mothers are the greatest threat to The Patriarchy *just* because The Patriarchy lashes out against them.  It doesn&#039;t answer why *would* it be the greatest threat.

For instance, single motherhood could instead plausibly be part of a feedback system that keeps patriarchy stable.  Consider:

1. Feminism opens up more options for women.

2. More women become single mothers.

3. This means, in theory, that there&#039;s more likely to be a large, atavistic group of men without the same kinds of family units.

4. The enforcers of the patriarchy would thus have a larger pool of males from which to recruit, males who are susceptible to the idea that their stake in society can only be reasserted by reasserting control over women.

5. Familiar backlash patterns are greatly exacerbated following a critical mass.

6. Women&#039;s options are restricted.

You can even work the porn-as-propaganda angle into this story very easily.

Of course, it&#039;s only one possibility.  But what makes single motherhood any more of a threat than merely a feedback control system?  The relative suffering of extant single mothers could just be a precursor to the full feedback loop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now that Maiken is gone, youâ€™re whacking yourself off to get back to being the male centre of attention here, arenâ€™t you?</p></blockquote>
<p>As you probably know, I am very jealous of my position here.</p>
<p>I read your links and the first link is pretty interesting.  Some of the others are less directly relevant.  But I was more interested in why people *here* would say that, because I&#8217;m interested in the all the possible variants of the theory.  I mean,</p>
<blockquote><p>But who do males actively and systemically punish, everywhere in the world? Single mothers.</p></blockquote>
<p>I mean, I know this (as you correctly note), but The Patriarchy could be, for instance, misguided or whatever.  It can&#8217;t be directly inferred that single mothers are the greatest threat to The Patriarchy *just* because The Patriarchy lashes out against them.  It doesn&#8217;t answer why *would* it be the greatest threat.</p>
<p>For instance, single motherhood could instead plausibly be part of a feedback system that keeps patriarchy stable.  Consider:</p>
<p>1. Feminism opens up more options for women.</p>
<p>2. More women become single mothers.</p>
<p>3. This means, in theory, that there&#8217;s more likely to be a large, atavistic group of men without the same kinds of family units.</p>
<p>4. The enforcers of the patriarchy would thus have a larger pool of males from which to recruit, males who are susceptible to the idea that their stake in society can only be reasserted by reasserting control over women.</p>
<p>5. Familiar backlash patterns are greatly exacerbated following a critical mass.</p>
<p>6. Women&#8217;s options are restricted.</p>
<p>You can even work the porn-as-propaganda angle into this story very easily.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s only one possibility.  But what makes single motherhood any more of a threat than merely a feedback control system?  The relative suffering of extant single mothers could just be a precursor to the full feedback loop.</p>
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		<title>By: Mar Iguana</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/10/good-for-sandwiches-bad-for-women/#comment-30543</link>
		<dc:creator>Mar Iguana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have mentioned that&#039;s a Mexican saying that assumes everyone is crazy.  Everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have mentioned that&#8217;s a Mexican saying that assumes everyone is crazy.  Everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Mar Iguana</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/10/good-for-sandwiches-bad-for-women/#comment-30536</link>
		<dc:creator>Mar Iguana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as my dear departed mother used to say, cada loca con su tema.  I like your tema plenty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as my dear departed mother used to say, cada loca con su tema.  I like your tema plenty.</p>
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