Comments on: Solanasmas http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/ Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:27:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Lya Kahlo http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31412 Lya Kahlo Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:15:41 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31412 "however, you can’t deny that there are plenty of examples of ignoring what other not-so-radfem women are actually saying in order to bond over demonizing them." I haven't been surfing the feminist blogiverse for very long. I get the impression that there were some epic battles between various feminsts sects in the past, but I wasn't around for them and so don't pretend to know where all the hard feelings come from. That said, the radfem blogs I frequent tend to deal with issues important to radfems. Non-radfems rarely qualify. Unless one or more are frequent commenters, or frequent trolls, that is. “however, you can’t deny that there are plenty of examples of ignoring what other not-so-radfem women are actually saying in order to bond over demonizing them.”

I haven’t been surfing the feminist blogiverse for very long. I get the impression that there were some epic battles between various feminsts sects in the past, but I wasn’t around for them and so don’t pretend to know where all the hard feelings come from. That said, the radfem blogs I frequent tend to deal with issues important to radfems. Non-radfems rarely qualify. Unless one or more are frequent commenters, or frequent trolls, that is.

]]> By: antiprincess http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31409 antiprincess Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:44:42 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31409 fair enough, lya. you shouldn't have to cop to something you didn't do. however, you can't deny that there are plenty of examples of ignoring what other not-so-radfem women are actually saying in order to bond over demonizing them. maybe you personally are not guilty of that. but it's out there. oh, and yes - Valerie Solanas was influential and important, even to a handmaiden like me. I had not realized she passed away so recently (1988) and under such dire circumstances. was the movie <i>I Shot Andy Warhol</i> accurate or totally off-base, does anyone know? fair enough, lya. you shouldn’t have to cop to something you didn’t do.

however, you can’t deny that there are plenty of examples of ignoring what other not-so-radfem women are actually saying in order to bond over demonizing them.

maybe you personally are not guilty of that. but it’s out there.

oh, and yes - Valerie Solanas was influential and important, even to a handmaiden like me. I had not realized she passed away so recently (1988) and under such dire circumstances.

was the movie I Shot Andy Warhol accurate or totally off-base, does anyone know?

]]> By: grrr kitty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31408 grrr kitty Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:40:21 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31408 Reading the article to which the original post links was one a the high points of aught-six for me, back in August, and it was an otherwise disappointing year on the whole. Thanks, Twisty, discovering your blog was another. You remind me that sometimes anger is the only sane response, and that I'm *not* the crazy one. Reading the article to which the original post links was one a the high points of aught-six for me, back in August, and it was an otherwise disappointing year on the whole. Thanks, Twisty, discovering your blog was another. You remind me that sometimes anger is the only sane response, and that I’m *not* the crazy one.

]]> By: Lya Kahlo http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31346 Lya Kahlo Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:49:25 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31346 Heart - I completely agree. Though it seems like this is just one more instance of ignoring what radfems are actually saying in order to bond over demonizing them. It's lazy, frankly. Ap - I have never called you any of those things. Heart - I completely agree. Though it seems like this is just one more instance of ignoring what radfems are actually saying in order to bond over demonizing them. It’s lazy, frankly.

Ap - I have never called you any of those things.

]]> By: Heart http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31345 Heart Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:31:37 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31345 Thanks, all, Mary Sunshine, you were right, I need to use Firefox for the comments. I read them and commented. <b>Notice she tagged it “white feminism” - which means what? If you don’t agree with her, you must be white and therefore available to be labeled “bigot”?</b> Yeah, this is upsetting, and I hope bfp does approve Veravenom's post. Radical feminism is not "white feminism" and never has been, not from the beginning; neither should differences around transgender issues be racialized in this particular way. The whole thing is just disturbing. Sorry for the drift, Twisty. Heart Thanks, all, Mary Sunshine, you were right, I need to use Firefox for the comments. I read them and commented.

Notice she tagged it “white feminism” - which means what? If you don’t agree with her, you must be white and therefore available to be labeled “bigot”?

Yeah, this is upsetting, and I hope bfp does approve Veravenom’s post. Radical feminism is not “white feminism” and never has been, not from the beginning; neither should differences around transgender issues be racialized in this particular way. The whole thing is just disturbing.

Sorry for the drift, Twisty.

Heart

]]> By: antiprincess http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31331 antiprincess Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:40:19 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31331 <i>If you don’t agree with her, you must be white and therefore available to be labeled “bigot”?</i> how is that any different from the idea that if I don't agree with y'all, I must be a handmaiden of patriarchy and therefore available to be labeled "stupid", "dense", "male"? If you don’t agree with her, you must be white and therefore available to be labeled “bigot”?

how is that any different from the idea that if I don’t agree with y’all, I must be a handmaiden of patriarchy and therefore available to be labeled “stupid”, “dense”, “male”?

]]> By: Lya Kahlo http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31330 Lya Kahlo Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:13:17 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31330 A link: http://brownfemipower.com/?p=764 Notice she tagged it "white feminism" - which means what? If you don't agree with her, you must be white and therefore available to be labeled "bigot"? A link: http://brownfemipower.com/?p=764

Notice she tagged it “white feminism” - which means what? If you don’t agree with her, you must be white and therefore available to be labeled “bigot”?

]]> By: Twisty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31327 Twisty Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:24:24 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31327 If you guys are going to start another thread, so be it, but how's about a link to whatever it is that's now under discussion? If you guys are going to start another thread, so be it, but how’s about a link to whatever it is that’s now under discussion?

]]> By: Lya Kahlo http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31324 Lya Kahlo Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:07:21 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31324 Her entire post is one long insult aimed at radfems, while she complains that radfems insulted transpeople. Hypocrisy much? Her post is as useless as it gets. Vera V left a comment on the blog pointing this out, and I'll bet it doesn't see the light of day. Her entire post is one long insult aimed at radfems, while she complains that radfems insulted transpeople. Hypocrisy much? Her post is as useless as it gets.

Vera V left a comment on the blog pointing this out, and I’ll bet it doesn’t see the light of day.

]]> By: Lavoris http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31261 Lavoris Mon, 25 Dec 2006 17:05:16 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/24/solanasmas/#comment-31261 "Tried to shoot Andy Warhol." Tried?? Why, that professor is portraying her as incompetent or ineffectual! “Tried to shoot Andy Warhol.” Tried?? Why, that professor is portraying her as incompetent or ineffectual!

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