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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A man never deserves pity for being raped.&quot;

Recently, I read a bunch of posts on a misogynist messageboard called menarebetterthanwomen.com. I&#039;d say the main difference between most of the posters over there and many of the posters here is that they&#039;re psychotic and you&#039;re psychopaths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A man never deserves pity for being raped.&#8221;</p>
<p>Recently, I read a bunch of posts on a misogynist messageboard called menarebetterthanwomen.com. I&#8217;d say the main difference between most of the posters over there and many of the posters here is that they&#8217;re psychotic and you&#8217;re psychopaths.</p>
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		<title>By: Brownie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brownie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rapes aren’t always reported by men because “they’re afraid they may be perceived as homosexual, or their masculinity may be threatened,” said Lynn Parrish, spokeswoman for the Rape, Abuse &amp; Incest National Network. “When someone goes through it, the effects can be devastating, especially if you’re male. It’s important that they reach out and get help.”

   A whole helluva lot is wrong here.  I&#039;m surprised that no one has jumped on the statement, &quot;Rapes aren&#039;t always reported by men because...&quot; blah blah blah. REALLY? You mean, unlike how rapes are always reported by women, and so it is especially important for them to seek help? THEM...the male victims who have all these reasons for not reporting being raped...unlike the women who have absolutely no reason for not reporting it. Male rape victims are scared of being laughed at, being called homosexual. Female rape victims are similarly scared of the repricussions of reporting their rape (beause they knew their attacker, their attacker can find them again perhaps?). 
   Saying that male rape victims seek help less frequently than female rape victim and therefore we need to make especially sure that they seek help is bullshit.
   And, P.S., I feel that rape threatens my femininity, but she doesn&#039;t seem to give a shit about that. She only cares about how it threatens the poor men&#039;s masculinity. Its never happened to me, but it has to my mother AND sister. Neither asked for it, but it seems as though I can expect it. And that terrifies me.

You can guess who I blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rapes aren’t always reported by men because “they’re afraid they may be perceived as homosexual, or their masculinity may be threatened,” said Lynn Parrish, spokeswoman for the Rape, Abuse &amp; Incest National Network. “When someone goes through it, the effects can be devastating, especially if you’re male. It’s important that they reach out and get help.”</p>
<p>   A whole helluva lot is wrong here.  I&#8217;m surprised that no one has jumped on the statement, &#8220;Rapes aren&#8217;t always reported by men because&#8230;&#8221; blah blah blah. REALLY? You mean, unlike how rapes are always reported by women, and so it is especially important for them to seek help? THEM&#8230;the male victims who have all these reasons for not reporting being raped&#8230;unlike the women who have absolutely no reason for not reporting it. Male rape victims are scared of being laughed at, being called homosexual. Female rape victims are similarly scared of the repricussions of reporting their rape (beause they knew their attacker, their attacker can find them again perhaps?).<br />
   Saying that male rape victims seek help less frequently than female rape victim and therefore we need to make especially sure that they seek help is bullshit.<br />
   And, P.S., I feel that rape threatens my femininity, but she doesn&#8217;t seem to give a shit about that. She only cares about how it threatens the poor men&#8217;s masculinity. Its never happened to me, but it has to my mother AND sister. Neither asked for it, but it seems as though I can expect it. And that terrifies me.</p>
<p>You can guess who I blame.</p>
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		<title>By: Caro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely the vagina and the anus are not the same thing - but rape of the anus is JUST as horrible. I have been raped vagianlly and anally on two different occasions. The feelings were just as disgusting. The invasion felt the same. Horror, anger, pain and rage. And also it hurt physically more in my anus because obviously an anus cannot stretch the same as a vagina.

And also what about male victims of childhood sexual abuse? Having worked with adult survivors of both sexes I would say the effects are identical. The post traumatic stress shows in the same way.

I am certainly not saying this to defend men - and you are all very right - theat spokeswomen&#039;s comments were a disgrace. Especially as I have worked in a similar capacity to this woman.....and we would NEVER have been allowed to say such destructive things.

The instances of rape and abuse are at epidemic levels against women. And the primary abusers are indeed men. It IS seen as some kind of joke. I dispise the patriarchial view of female rape. I just wanted to tell everyone here that anal rape can be just as devastating to a victim - whatever gender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely the vagina and the anus are not the same thing &#8211; but rape of the anus is JUST as horrible. I have been raped vagianlly and anally on two different occasions. The feelings were just as disgusting. The invasion felt the same. Horror, anger, pain and rage. And also it hurt physically more in my anus because obviously an anus cannot stretch the same as a vagina.</p>
<p>And also what about male victims of childhood sexual abuse? Having worked with adult survivors of both sexes I would say the effects are identical. The post traumatic stress shows in the same way.</p>
<p>I am certainly not saying this to defend men &#8211; and you are all very right &#8211; theat spokeswomen&#8217;s comments were a disgrace. Especially as I have worked in a similar capacity to this woman&#8230;..and we would NEVER have been allowed to say such destructive things.</p>
<p>The instances of rape and abuse are at epidemic levels against women. And the primary abusers are indeed men. It IS seen as some kind of joke. I dispise the patriarchial view of female rape. I just wanted to tell everyone here that anal rape can be just as devastating to a victim &#8211; whatever gender.</p>
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		<title>By: Sílvia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sílvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is equally devastating for women as well as for men. This kind of statements shocks me. To me, as a woman, the normality is to live all my live without being raped and not the opposite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is equally devastating for women as well as for men. This kind of statements shocks me. To me, as a woman, the normality is to live all my live without being raped and not the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: The latest Prison Rape post on Alas &#124; Feminist Critics</title>
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		<dc:creator>The latest Prison Rape post on Alas &#124; Feminist Critics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thread is concerned, all of whom are taking the issue seriously, a position which is regrettably not universal within [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jewcakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jewcakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The more men are raped, the more men will be walking around having some small idea of what women go through every day.&quot;

Small idea?  Although you can say firmly that no man has any idea what it&#039;s like to be vaginally raped, the violent act itself doesn&#039;t go in degrees by gender.  Implying that women are more damaged by rape is just as irresponsible as saying that men are (I&#039;m talking level of personal damage, not the number of people raped).  Damaged DIFFERENTLY, possible, but let&#039;s not dump on a woman who made an offensive statement, then make the SAME STATEMENT applying to the opposite sex.

That&#039;s my niceness, now:  Implying that good can come out of anyone being raped is cruel, and I would imagine that any rape victim would get awfully offended by that, rightfully so.

Even an eye for an eye only works if you&#039;re attacking the criminal.  Calling for rapists to get raped would have been fair, but encouraging the rape of any man, simply because he is a man, makes absolutely no sense.  Not all women are rape victims, not all men are rapists, and saying that men getting raped gives them perspective is making a HUGE assumption that 1) male rape victims were unsympathetic to female rape victims before, and 2) that the best way to make them sympathetic is to rape them.

Both are false.  Obviously there are unsympathetic men, but you didn&#039;t say them, you just said men, and every single man I know is sympathetic to rape victims, and I know a lot of men and boys.  I&#039;m not a census but if I can find them in Hickville Ohio, they exist elsewhere too.

As for sympathy, exactly what kind of level of sympathy do you require?  I mean, I&#039;ve never been raped, but I can still be sympathetic.  Not sympathetic enough?  Would you like me to get raped, too, then?  You do not have to be raped to abhor it, to feel for victims, and to recognize it as part of a larger, more dangerous theme in society.  Just like you can be financially stable and fight poverty, you can be white and fight racism, I don&#039;t have to make more comparisons, but you clearly do not and should not have to be raped to be sympathetic, whether you&#039;re male or female.

&quot;But a man never deserves pity for being raped.&quot;

You&#039;re right there.  I also don&#039;t deserve pity for being the white victim of racist slurs by black classmates, because I&#039;m white.  And you can&#039;t be racist against white people because we started it.

The end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The more men are raped, the more men will be walking around having some small idea of what women go through every day.&#8221;</p>
<p>Small idea?  Although you can say firmly that no man has any idea what it&#8217;s like to be vaginally raped, the violent act itself doesn&#8217;t go in degrees by gender.  Implying that women are more damaged by rape is just as irresponsible as saying that men are (I&#8217;m talking level of personal damage, not the number of people raped).  Damaged DIFFERENTLY, possible, but let&#8217;s not dump on a woman who made an offensive statement, then make the SAME STATEMENT applying to the opposite sex.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my niceness, now:  Implying that good can come out of anyone being raped is cruel, and I would imagine that any rape victim would get awfully offended by that, rightfully so.</p>
<p>Even an eye for an eye only works if you&#8217;re attacking the criminal.  Calling for rapists to get raped would have been fair, but encouraging the rape of any man, simply because he is a man, makes absolutely no sense.  Not all women are rape victims, not all men are rapists, and saying that men getting raped gives them perspective is making a HUGE assumption that 1) male rape victims were unsympathetic to female rape victims before, and 2) that the best way to make them sympathetic is to rape them.</p>
<p>Both are false.  Obviously there are unsympathetic men, but you didn&#8217;t say them, you just said men, and every single man I know is sympathetic to rape victims, and I know a lot of men and boys.  I&#8217;m not a census but if I can find them in Hickville Ohio, they exist elsewhere too.</p>
<p>As for sympathy, exactly what kind of level of sympathy do you require?  I mean, I&#8217;ve never been raped, but I can still be sympathetic.  Not sympathetic enough?  Would you like me to get raped, too, then?  You do not have to be raped to abhor it, to feel for victims, and to recognize it as part of a larger, more dangerous theme in society.  Just like you can be financially stable and fight poverty, you can be white and fight racism, I don&#8217;t have to make more comparisons, but you clearly do not and should not have to be raped to be sympathetic, whether you&#8217;re male or female.</p>
<p>&#8220;But a man never deserves pity for being raped.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right there.  I also don&#8217;t deserve pity for being the white victim of racist slurs by black classmates, because I&#8217;m white.  And you can&#8217;t be racist against white people because we started it.</p>
<p>The end.</p>
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		<title>By: Toy Soldiers Being a Boy: 201 &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toy Soldiers Being a Boy: 201 &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When I see instances of women bashing males or those they perceive as male, all those hesitancies creep back up and I wonder whether it is worth the effort to speak out. At the same time I wonder whether silence is worth it either, since that resulted in getting slapped. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When I see instances of women bashing males or those they perceive as male, all those hesitancies creep back up and I wonder whether it is worth the effort to speak out. At the same time I wonder whether silence is worth it either, since that resulted in getting slapped. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, dear. had an argument with my sister about my comment. Instead of feminists popping babies out I should have said mothers. And the radical sex movement came from my country and not hers. See, it doesn&#039;t matter how old you are the feminist movement can create arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, dear. had an argument with my sister about my comment. Instead of feminists popping babies out I should have said mothers. And the radical sex movement came from my country and not hers. See, it doesn&#8217;t matter how old you are the feminist movement can create arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tell what I know as probably an older woman and what I think is happening. 

The feminists that we consider our older sisters wnated to help each other. They had always done this especially prior to the pill. They were basically popping babies out so they each helped the other with the babies and children while the men went to work. 

However, after the pill came a radical sex moment. Now men and women were free from having babies so orgies and one night stands became common. Especially with the younger women who we consider the radicals. Not all however. Some went extremely anti-male. Even so, married women and men were happy. They could have sex to their hearts content without having the babies. And the women had TV shows to teach other women how to enjoy sex. 

Unfortunately there were quite a number of females that were not happy with sex. They had never learn&#039;t about it till they got married and felt it was a dirty thing to do. 
The education wasn&#039;t there until the radicals stepped in. 

So a war has broken out between the 2 sexes and even between the sexes (women against women and men against men) and has been going on for 4 decades now because some women and men adapted to the change and loved it while others did not. 

This is still happening today with women flaunting it all and others being conservative. It is all about backlash. And every new generation challenges the prior generation. 

Unfortunately this generation have to find a way to balance the extremes. But sadly the extremes are so great, misandry and misongyny that it is hard to see where the balance will come from. 

Both sides hurt and both sides are happy. When I say this I mean that some are loving it and others are not. When we concentrate on our own sexes problems we don&#039;t see the other side. And this is an obstacle. You are more equal in your pain than you know and equal in your anger. 

Life is but a journey of oneself. You have yet to grow till your 50&#039;s. Then you will understand life a little better. 

But don&#039;t forget your elder sisters. Even though they fought for rights, those that made the biggest changes were the ones that had loving husbands. We are burying these ladies today in HONOR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tell what I know as probably an older woman and what I think is happening. </p>
<p>The feminists that we consider our older sisters wnated to help each other. They had always done this especially prior to the pill. They were basically popping babies out so they each helped the other with the babies and children while the men went to work. </p>
<p>However, after the pill came a radical sex moment. Now men and women were free from having babies so orgies and one night stands became common. Especially with the younger women who we consider the radicals. Not all however. Some went extremely anti-male. Even so, married women and men were happy. They could have sex to their hearts content without having the babies. And the women had TV shows to teach other women how to enjoy sex. </p>
<p>Unfortunately there were quite a number of females that were not happy with sex. They had never learn&#8217;t about it till they got married and felt it was a dirty thing to do.<br />
The education wasn&#8217;t there until the radicals stepped in. </p>
<p>So a war has broken out between the 2 sexes and even between the sexes (women against women and men against men) and has been going on for 4 decades now because some women and men adapted to the change and loved it while others did not. </p>
<p>This is still happening today with women flaunting it all and others being conservative. It is all about backlash. And every new generation challenges the prior generation. </p>
<p>Unfortunately this generation have to find a way to balance the extremes. But sadly the extremes are so great, misandry and misongyny that it is hard to see where the balance will come from. </p>
<p>Both sides hurt and both sides are happy. When I say this I mean that some are loving it and others are not. When we concentrate on our own sexes problems we don&#8217;t see the other side. And this is an obstacle. You are more equal in your pain than you know and equal in your anger. </p>
<p>Life is but a journey of oneself. You have yet to grow till your 50&#8217;s. Then you will understand life a little better. </p>
<p>But don&#8217;t forget your elder sisters. Even though they fought for rights, those that made the biggest changes were the ones that had loving husbands. We are burying these ladies today in HONOR.</p>
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		<title>By: ginmar</title>
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		<dc:creator>ginmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting sick and tired of the way people tee off on you and other more radical voices. Oppression is ugly, so how come so many people focus on the fight against it? Kee-rist.  

  How come nobody but feminists ever bitch about woman-hating? It&#039;s an epidemic. Let anybody point out bluntly that men get handled with kid gloves and all of a sudden, you&#039;re a man hater for calling it for what it is: sexist coddling, at womens&#039; expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting sick and tired of the way people tee off on you and other more radical voices. Oppression is ugly, so how come so many people focus on the fight against it? Kee-rist.  </p>
<p>  How come nobody but feminists ever bitch about woman-hating? It&#8217;s an epidemic. Let anybody point out bluntly that men get handled with kid gloves and all of a sudden, you&#8217;re a man hater for calling it for what it is: sexist coddling, at womens&#8217; expense.</p>
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