Comments on: Ladies: “Say ‘no’ to having uneven and teeth like lips” http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:39:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ChickenBrothel http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-135942 ChickenBrothel Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:50:18 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-135942 Ok. Vaginas are absolutely disgusting. I think we all know that and we're over it. It's common knowledge. Ok. Vaginas are absolutely disgusting. I think we all know that and we’re over it. It’s common knowledge.

]]> By: Lauredhel http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-50776 Lauredhel Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:03:05 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-50776 me_at_home, I think you might have caught some ugly folk etymology there, not that the original is particularly un-ugly. The OED says: "Slapper in British, a prostitute or slut. This working class term from East London and Essex is probably a corruption of shlepper or schlepper, a word of Yiddish origin, one of whose meanings is a slovenly or immoral woman." me_at_home, I think you might have caught some ugly folk etymology there, not that the original is particularly un-ugly. The OED says:

“Slapper in British, a prostitute or slut. This working class term from East London and Essex is probably a corruption of shlepper or schlepper, a word of Yiddish origin, one of whose meanings is a slovenly or immoral woman.”

]]> By: me_at_home http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-50644 me_at_home Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:22:51 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-50644 Many prostitutes and female pornographic film actresses get this operation done because their 'lips' have stretched so badly that people find it unusual and a sign of promiscuity - in the UK there is the term 'slappers' (for obvious reasons). Many prostitutes and female pornographic film actresses get this operation done because their ‘lips’ have stretched so badly that people find it unusual and a sign of promiscuity – in the UK there is the term ’slappers’ (for obvious reasons).

]]> By: Carolyn http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-38771 Carolyn Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:48:35 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-38771 Maribelle, thanks for your supportive comments. Please see my info on debunking gender myths and gender stereotypes on the topic of Perfunctory BDSM too. And please see my comments on the Pervwatch 07 topic. Maribelle,

thanks for your supportive comments. Please see my info on debunking gender myths and gender stereotypes on the topic of Perfunctory BDSM too. And please see my comments on the Pervwatch 07 topic.

]]> By: maribelle http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-38578 maribelle Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:26:54 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-38578 Hey, Carolyn--I know what it's like to write a long, indepth and carefully thought out entry and no one seems to respond. But often people do react in the "real world", even if they don't respond on the blog. I have enjoyed your thought provoking posts on this and other threads. I also try not to respond with only a "you go, girl" unless I have something specific to add to the conversation. <i> erm… So if I think blue eyes are attractive, that’s also rooted in porn?</i> The difference with porn, flamethorn, is that eyes and other physical attributes have been on public display for most all human history (burkas notwithstanding.) But the vulva has only in recent years been publicaly displayed regularly in a socially acceptable way -- via porn. So before porn went mainstream, there was almost no public standard of comparison. Now that porn has put women's genitalia under the camera and the public eye, the process of "deciding what's pretty" is transparently revealed on that website to be a completely socially comstructed process. <b> Why would the website need to EXPLAIN why one picture of a vulva is "prettier" than another if they were not in the very process of constructing an ideal? </b> Really, this clearly reveals how women and our bodies are objectified. They are not reflecting a naturally held beauty ideal; they are creating it. Hey, Carolyn–I know what it’s like to write a long, indepth and carefully thought out entry and no one seems to respond. But often people do react in the “real world”, even if they don’t respond on the blog. I have enjoyed your thought provoking posts on this and other threads. I also try not to respond with only a “you go, girl” unless I have something specific to add to the conversation.

erm… So if I think blue eyes are attractive, that’s also rooted in porn?

The difference with porn, flamethorn, is that eyes and other physical attributes have been on public display for most all human history (burkas notwithstanding.) But the vulva has only in recent years been publicaly displayed regularly in a socially acceptable way — via porn.

So before porn went mainstream, there was almost no public standard of comparison. Now that porn has put women’s genitalia under the camera and the public eye, the process of “deciding what’s pretty” is transparently revealed on that website to be a completely socially comstructed process.

Why would the website need to EXPLAIN why one picture of a vulva is “prettier” than another if they were not in the very process of constructing an ideal? Really, this clearly reveals how women and our bodies are objectified.

They are not reflecting a naturally held beauty ideal; they are creating it.

]]> By: Carolyn http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-38573 Carolyn Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:09:09 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-38573 Pony, I *was* a registered member at Genderberg until one of the members insulted me by saying all my posts were the same things repeated and that she would just skip them,I said a lot of different related powerful things and information about the sexist harms of pornography and she would have known this if she would have read through all of my posts! Pony, I *was* a registered member at Genderberg until one of the members insulted me by saying all my posts were the same things repeated and that she would just skip them,I said a lot of different related powerful things and information about the sexist harms of pornography and she would have known this if she would have read through all of my posts!

]]> By: Carolyn http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-38571 Carolyn Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:04:33 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-38571 Flamethorn, you asked what is the point and that it's bad. The point is very self explanatory isn't it! The point is that it's really horrible that pornography has been so mainstreamed and normalized and that since we all live in a male dominated sexist,gender divided,gender stereotyped,woman hating society,and we all live under men's rules and definitions of everything,some women are now influenced to support pornography too. As professor Rebecca Whisnant said to me in a phone conversation,women are playing a long with pornography now,and she said if you can't beat them join them! Flamethorn, you asked what is the point and that it’s bad. The point is very self explanatory isn’t it! The point is that it’s really horrible that pornography has been so mainstreamed and normalized and that since we all live in a male dominated sexist,gender divided,gender stereotyped,woman hating society,and we all live under men’s rules and definitions of everything,some women are now influenced to support pornography too. As professor Rebecca Whisnant said to me in a phone conversation,women are playing a long with pornography now,and she said if you can’t beat them join them!

]]> By: Pony http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-37201 Pony Mon, 19 Feb 2007 01:56:26 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-37201 It did make sense. Eminently. I have preferences. He'd be about 32. What? It did make sense. Eminently. I have preferences. He’d be about 32. What?

]]> By: Flamethorn http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-37193 Flamethorn Mon, 19 Feb 2007 00:56:33 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-37193 <i>Doesn’t anyone have anything to say about what I posted a few posts above about Playboy’s history of promoting sexual violence against women and little children and also publishing many pictures of women with shaved genitals to makes them look like little girls and promote the adults having sex with children that they promoted in their cartoons,articles and other images?</i> You're pretty much preaching to the choir on that. Yes, it's bad. And? Doesn’t anyone have anything to say about what I posted a few posts above about Playboy’s history of promoting sexual violence against women and little children and also publishing many pictures of women with shaved genitals to makes them look like little girls and promote the adults having sex with children that they promoted in their cartoons,articles and other images?

You’re pretty much preaching to the choir on that. Yes, it’s bad. And?

]]> By: Flamethorn http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-37192 Flamethorn Mon, 19 Feb 2007 00:55:15 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/10/ladies-say-no-to-having-uneven-and-teeth-like-lips/#comment-37192 <i>Well, mirror the notion that one sort of vulva or another is something that anyone should have any kind of preference for in the first place is rooted in pornography.</i> erm... So if I think blue eyes are attractive, that's also rooted in porn? I mean srsly. "the notion that one color of eyes or another is something that anyone should have any kind of preference for" "the notion that one level of muscle tone or another is something that anyone should have any kind of preference for" "the notion that one hairstyle or another is something that anyone should have any kind of preference for" In a porn-free, depatriarchalized society, people will still have preferences. The only difference is that people whose preferences are not in line with those currently pornulated will be as free to talk about those preferences as people whose are. I hope that sentence made sense. Well, mirror the notion that one sort of vulva or another is something that anyone should have any kind of preference for in the first place is rooted in pornography.

erm… So if I think blue eyes are attractive, that’s also rooted in porn?

I mean srsly.

“the notion that one color of eyes or another is something that anyone should have any kind of preference for”

“the notion that one level of muscle tone or another is something that anyone should have any kind of preference for”

“the notion that one hairstyle or another is something that anyone should have any kind of preference for”

In a porn-free, depatriarchalized society, people will still have preferences. The only difference is that people whose preferences are not in line with those currently pornulated will be as free to talk about those preferences as people whose are.

I hope that sentence made sense.

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