Comments on: Chicks-running-for-high-officewatch ‘07 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/ Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:37:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Twisty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-39029 Twisty Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:23:19 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-39029 The TV series "M*A*S*H" is much the same; I saw half an episode the other day for the first time in years, and was amazed at how anti-woman and preachy this supposedly progessive liberal program was. The only female lead is called "Hot Lips," and the rest of the dudes, when they aren't being sensitive and grappling comedically with the dudely enormity of dudely war, are macking on entities known as "the nurses." No wonder it's still wildly popular and in syndication. The TV series “M*A*S*H” is much the same; I saw half an episode the other day for the first time in years, and was amazed at how anti-woman and preachy this supposedly progessive liberal program was. The only female lead is called “Hot Lips,” and the rest of the dudes, when they aren’t being sensitive and grappling comedically with the dudely enormity of dudely war, are macking on entities known as “the nurses.” No wonder it’s still wildly popular and in syndication.

]]> By: Alecto http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38973 Alecto Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:20:00 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38973 <i>I remember rewatching the Revenge of the Nerds as a sentient being, and becoming progressively more uncomfortable with a movie that I’d identified with as a child.</i> Nick, I had the pleasure of watching the original M*A*S*H with my father -- first time for me, and the first time for him since his childhood. Before it started, he was waxing poetic over how funny it was, such a classic. He grew progressively quieter as it wore on. (I quickly gave up on it and started reading a book. I couldn't get past the misogyny enough to find it amusing.) At the end, he admitted sheepishly that it was much more misogynist than he recalled. Childhood impressions can be very misleading, but thankfully, most of us grow up. I remember rewatching the Revenge of the Nerds as a sentient being, and becoming progressively more uncomfortable with a movie that I’d identified with as a child.

Nick, I had the pleasure of watching the original M*A*S*H with my father — first time for me, and the first time for him since his childhood. Before it started, he was waxing poetic over how funny it was, such a classic. He grew progressively quieter as it wore on. (I quickly gave up on it and started reading a book. I couldn’t get past the misogyny enough to find it amusing.) At the end, he admitted sheepishly that it was much more misogynist than he recalled. Childhood impressions can be very misleading, but thankfully, most of us grow up.

]]> By: Frumious B http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38869 Frumious B Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:00:25 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38869 Can any blamers recommend a book about Ms. Menchu which is written at a 6th grade level? Heck, books about any women of color, or any women, in politics written at a 6th grade level are of interest. Can any blamers recommend a book about Ms. Menchu which is written at a 6th grade level?

Heck, books about any women of color, or any women, in politics written at a 6th grade level are of interest.

]]> By: Twisty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38746 Twisty Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:23:15 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38746 Do I detect in your tone, Paul, some sort of disgruntledness that this post is not a List of Female Latin American Politicians? Do I detect in your tone, Paul, some sort of disgruntledness that this post is not a List of Female Latin American Politicians?

]]> By: Paul http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38739 Paul Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:04:06 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38739 Women leaders in latin america exhibit 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violeta_Chamorro Oh wait, her politics aren't correct so she doesn't count. Women leaders in latin america exhibit 1:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violeta_Chamorro

Oh wait, her politics aren’t correct so she doesn’t count.

]]> By: Twisty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38725 Twisty Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:56:46 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38725 <blockquote>What, all these comments and no mention of the fact that the evil planet in A Wrinkle In Time is named after a Quiche (I thought K’iche was used more often these days, incidentally) monster? When I started reading I figured that was going to be the connecting thread. Yeah, Camazotz was a kind of creature in the Popul Vuh. Apparently his name means “Sudden Blood-letter” and he “plucks off heads”.</blockquote> I love this blog.

What, all these comments and no mention of the fact that the evil planet in A Wrinkle In Time is named after a Quiche (I thought K’iche was used more often these days, incidentally) monster?

When I started reading I figured that was going to be the connecting thread.

Yeah, Camazotz was a kind of creature in the Popul Vuh. Apparently his name means “Sudden Blood-letter” and he “plucks off heads”.

I love this blog.

]]> By: Christopher http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38721 Christopher Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:48:26 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38721 What, all these comments and no mention of the fact that the evil planet in <i>A Wrinkle In Time</i> is named after a Quiche (I thought K'iche was used more often these days, incidentally) monster? When I started reading I figured that was going to be the connecting thread. Yeah, Camazotz was a kind of creature in the Popul Vuh. Apparently his name means "Sudden Blood-letter" and he "plucks off heads". There's a wikipedia article that says he might've been inspired by vampire bats, but what I heard was that he's really a fruit-bat; he'll pluck off your head like a fruit-bat picking a piece of fruit. He, together with other monsters named, charmingly, Gouger of Faces, Crunching Jaguar and Tearing Jaguar destroyed a civilization of wooden people back in the days before homo sapiens. Or maybe it was Camalotz. see, in one part of the book, it's "Camalotz" and in another it's "Camazotz". All English sources I've read say that they're two names for the same entity, though. I think we can all agree Camazotz is pretty badass, but I'm not really sure why L'Engle named that particular planet after him (Her? It?). I liked <i>A Wrinkle in Time</i>, but gave up in a latter book... I remember there was some kinda shrimp-monster thing and the author came down hard on him cause he didn't play nice with others. Same thing happened in <i>The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe</i>. I think that an antisocial acerbic, sarcastic person can be perfectly good, so I didn't like the authors making them bad, and then when they become good they're all sickeningly nice. What, all these comments and no mention of the fact that the evil planet in A Wrinkle In Time is named after a Quiche (I thought K’iche was used more often these days, incidentally) monster?

When I started reading I figured that was going to be the connecting thread.

Yeah, Camazotz was a kind of creature in the Popul Vuh. Apparently his name means “Sudden Blood-letter” and he “plucks off heads”.

There’s a wikipedia article that says he might’ve been inspired by vampire bats, but what I heard was that he’s really a fruit-bat; he’ll pluck off your head like a fruit-bat picking a piece of fruit.

He, together with other monsters named, charmingly, Gouger of Faces, Crunching Jaguar and Tearing Jaguar destroyed a civilization of wooden people back in the days before homo sapiens.

Or maybe it was Camalotz. see, in one part of the book, it’s “Camalotz” and in another it’s “Camazotz”. All English sources I’ve read say that they’re two names for the same entity, though.

I think we can all agree Camazotz is pretty badass, but I’m not really sure why L’Engle named that particular planet after him (Her? It?).

I liked A Wrinkle in Time, but gave up in a latter book… I remember there was some kinda shrimp-monster thing and the author came down hard on him cause he didn’t play nice with others. Same thing happened in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.

I think that an antisocial acerbic, sarcastic person can be perfectly good, so I didn’t like the authors making them bad, and then when they become good they’re all sickeningly nice.

]]> By: ungoliant http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38657 ungoliant Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:43:05 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38657 (edited version, apologize to all if this shows up twice!) Twisty, thanks so much for turning this news item into a flashbeam for the blaming community. It may not bring as much traffic as blow jobs and s/m costume debates, but you provided us once again with a rallying point for hope, a reminder of what we're blaming toward and of the heroes we can can remember in what often seems a lonely struggle. All that, a place to share our delight and gain wisdom and knowledge from each other, and the sudden joyful tear from a striking bit of eloquence like that glorious last sentence. Everybody says it, but it's just so true--you really do rock. I'm seriously tempted now to suggest a friendly contest to digg this story until some unsuspecting interviewer gets Ms. Menchu on the tube so they can *ask* her "Who She's Wearing." Who thinks they can convince Larry King? Anderson Cooper, anyone? (edited version, apologize to all if this shows up twice!)

Twisty, thanks so much for turning this news item into a flashbeam for the blaming community. It may not bring as much traffic as blow jobs and s/m costume debates, but you provided us once again with a rallying point for hope, a reminder of what we’re blaming toward and of the heroes we can can remember in what often seems a lonely struggle. All that, a place to share our delight and gain wisdom and knowledge from each other, and the sudden joyful tear from a striking bit of eloquence like that glorious last sentence. Everybody says it, but it’s just so true–you really do rock.

I’m seriously tempted now to suggest a friendly contest to digg this story until some unsuspecting interviewer gets Ms. Menchu on the tube so they can *ask* her “Who She’s Wearing.” Who thinks they can convince Larry King? Anderson Cooper, anyone?

]]> By: Hattie http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38644 Hattie Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:16:28 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38644 Sure get tired of the right wing hatchet jobs. Horowitz is someone I especially loathe. Sure get tired of the right wing hatchet jobs. Horowitz is someone I especially loathe.

]]> By: Literary Benefits & Hindrances of a Non-Religious Upbringing « Gangly Thoughts http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38594 Literary Benefits & Hindrances of a Non-Religious Upbringing « Gangly Thoughts Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:05:49 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/25/chicks-running-for-high-officewatch-07/#comment-38594 [...] 26 Feb 2007 Literary Benefits & Hindrances of a Non-Religious Upbringing Posted by jolt under Patriarchy , Religion  A recent post by the superlativeTwisty discusses, among other things, various aspects of religion & Famous Fighters of the Black Thing  set forth in Madeline L’Engle’s A Wrinkle in Time.   Reading her comments on the various religious allusions in the book reminded me of something I first noticed way back in college when taking a Survery of English Literature, which is that not having been raised in any religious tradition, the vast majority of religious allusions, metaphors and other literary devices went completely over my head. [...] […] 26 Feb 2007 Literary Benefits & Hindrances of a Non-Religious Upbringing Posted by jolt under Patriarchy , Religion  A recent post by the superlativeTwisty discusses, among other things, various aspects of religion & Famous Fighters of the Black Thing  set forth in Madeline L’Engle’s A Wrinkle in Time.   Reading her comments on the various religious allusions in the book reminded me of something I first noticed way back in college when taking a Survery of English Literature, which is that not having been raised in any religious tradition, the vast majority of religious allusions, metaphors and other literary devices went completely over my head. […]

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