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	<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/</link>
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		<title>By: katarina</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-128525</link>
		<author>katarina</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-128525</guid>
		<description>This post is more than a year old now but just have to say: I'm so happy to hear women discussing the knock-on effect of giving birth in a rich country. I never dare talk about this issue with friends or relatives any more, because everyone I know is either reproducing themselves or hoping to do so soon and would react pretty much as Laurel and Jess2 did.

"Pregnancy is one of the few things that men obviously can not do," says Jess2. The men I know are proud of impregnating women, whether or not they want to take responsibility for resulting offspring. It's purblind to pretend that only women are responsible for increasing the population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is more than a year old now but just have to say: I&#8217;m so happy to hear women discussing the knock-on effect of giving birth in a rich country. I never dare talk about this issue with friends or relatives any more, because everyone I know is either reproducing themselves or hoping to do so soon and would react pretty much as Laurel and Jess2 did.</p>
<p>&#8220;Pregnancy is one of the few things that men obviously can not do,&#8221; says Jess2. The men I know are proud of impregnating women, whether or not they want to take responsibility for resulting offspring. It&#8217;s purblind to pretend that only women are responsible for increasing the population.</p>
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		<title>By: niki</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-40320</link>
		<author>niki</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-40320</guid>
		<description>I dunno, mang.  I think that 'people like babies' is a social construct, albeit so deeply rooted in human tradition that not even letting themselves be covered in viscous and vomitous on a 24-hour basis can deter some people from the course.  

Others are different.  I won't ever hold a baby no how, no way.  They have those little porcelain heads and frail birdy necks.  And I sure as (baby) shit won't change a diaper, ever.  Halleluja!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, mang.  I think that &#8216;people like babies&#8217; is a social construct, albeit so deeply rooted in human tradition that not even letting themselves be covered in viscous and vomitous on a 24-hour basis can deter some people from the course.  </p>
<p>Others are different.  I won&#8217;t ever hold a baby no how, no way.  They have those little porcelain heads and frail birdy necks.  And I sure as (baby) shit won&#8217;t change a diaper, ever.  Halleluja!</p>
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		<title>By: Frumious B</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-40266</link>
		<author>Frumious B</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-40266</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I say godbags should not avail themselves of infertility technology because if you canâ€™t have a child the â€œnormalâ€ way, clearly itâ€™s the deityâ€™s will that you have none.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fun Catholic fact o' the day:  Catholics are not supposed to get infertility treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I say godbags should not avail themselves of infertility technology because if you canâ€™t have a child the â€œnormalâ€ way, clearly itâ€™s the deityâ€™s will that you have none.</p></blockquote>
<p>Fun Catholic fact o&#8217; the day:  Catholics are not supposed to get infertility treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: Frumious B</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-40265</link>
		<author>Frumious B</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-40265</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In a culture where oneâ€™s biological fact of being female didnâ€™t automatically mean all she exists for is to fuck men and make babies, many fewer women would choose to have babies.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You think?  I don't know.  People like babies, and they like kids.  I think just as many women would choose to have babies, but they would be like men are now - parents &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; people.  Maybe even more women would have babies, and more babies, since they would be human instead of incubators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In a culture where oneâ€™s biological fact of being female didnâ€™t automatically mean all she exists for is to fuck men and make babies, many fewer women would choose to have babies.</p></blockquote>
<p>You think?  I don&#8217;t know.  People like babies, and they like kids.  I think just as many women would choose to have babies, but they would be like men are now - parents <em>and</em> people.  Maybe even more women would have babies, and more babies, since they would be human instead of incubators.</p>
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		<title>By: Antoinette Niebieszczanski</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-40198</link>
		<author>Antoinette Niebieszczanski</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-40198</guid>
		<description>Hey, Salty C, you're preaching to the choir here.  I'll carry it a little further:  godbags will insist that you must carry an accidental pregnancy to term because it's the will of the deity.  However, it's not the same for folks who can't get pregnant.  I say godbags should not avail themselves of infertility technology because if you can't have a child the "normal" way, clearly it's the deity's will that you have none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Salty C, you&#8217;re preaching to the choir here.  I&#8217;ll carry it a little further:  godbags will insist that you must carry an accidental pregnancy to term because it&#8217;s the will of the deity.  However, it&#8217;s not the same for folks who can&#8217;t get pregnant.  I say godbags should not avail themselves of infertility technology because if you can&#8217;t have a child the &#8220;normal&#8221; way, clearly it&#8217;s the deity&#8217;s will that you have none.</p>
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		<title>By: saltyC</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-40192</link>
		<author>saltyC</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-40192</guid>
		<description>Oops I forgot we were talking about HAVING babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops I forgot we were talking about HAVING babies.</p>
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		<title>By: saltyC</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-40190</link>
		<author>saltyC</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-40190</guid>
		<description>I still see a lot of guilt over getting pregnant.


I wish we could lighten up. So what you get pregnant, you have an abortion, BFD.

I don't see the same hand-wringing by women who get in vitro fertility treatment, even though it ends up creating way more embryos than can be used, and therefore most of them DIE. 

No, it's only when we get preggers the normal way that it's a shameful thing.

Yeah my abortion was the result of unprotected sex. I finally decided not to be ashamed. For a lot of women, no birth control is ideal, sometimes abortion is the best method. Yes, abortion as a method of birth control, I see nothing wrong if we're also killing embryos in labs.

Maybe if we quit all this guilt we could be happier in our wonderful skins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still see a lot of guilt over getting pregnant.</p>
<p>I wish we could lighten up. So what you get pregnant, you have an abortion, BFD.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see the same hand-wringing by women who get in vitro fertility treatment, even though it ends up creating way more embryos than can be used, and therefore most of them DIE. </p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s only when we get preggers the normal way that it&#8217;s a shameful thing.</p>
<p>Yeah my abortion was the result of unprotected sex. I finally decided not to be ashamed. For a lot of women, no birth control is ideal, sometimes abortion is the best method. Yes, abortion as a method of birth control, I see nothing wrong if we&#8217;re also killing embryos in labs.</p>
<p>Maybe if we quit all this guilt we could be happier in our wonderful skins.</p>
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		<title>By: hedonistic</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-39961</link>
		<author>hedonistic</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-39961</guid>
		<description>I don't know.  When I announced to my family that I was pregnant their response was not joy but dread ("Oh no, HPS is going to leave the baby on the bus!!!).

I think the real reason I didn't put my little bundle of screaming id out on the curb with the recycling was that I'd put so much effort (time, energy, vomit, needles, drugs, ER visits, hospital stays, bedrest etc.) into getting her out of me alive. It would have been such a waste, not to mention inhumane, to let anything befall my Bunny after all that pain and hard work.  Add a mature sense of personal responsibility and Bunny was secure, which a relief to the rest of my family since otherwise I DO NOT HAVE A MATERNAL BONE IN MY BODY.  

Besides, when she wasn't screaming and shitting she was pretty cute: A one-of-a-kind, irreplaceable human being who deserved to be brought up well, so I kept her and found competent, certified daycare to prevent/undo any damage I might do by attempting to raise her myself. 

I'd only call this "biology" in the sense that selfish interest is inherent to our species.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know.  When I announced to my family that I was pregnant their response was not joy but dread (&#8221;Oh no, HPS is going to leave the baby on the bus!!!).</p>
<p>I think the real reason I didn&#8217;t put my little bundle of screaming id out on the curb with the recycling was that I&#8217;d put so much effort (time, energy, vomit, needles, drugs, ER visits, hospital stays, bedrest etc.) into getting her out of me alive. It would have been such a waste, not to mention inhumane, to let anything befall my Bunny after all that pain and hard work.  Add a mature sense of personal responsibility and Bunny was secure, which a relief to the rest of my family since otherwise I DO NOT HAVE A MATERNAL BONE IN MY BODY.  </p>
<p>Besides, when she wasn&#8217;t screaming and shitting she was pretty cute: A one-of-a-kind, irreplaceable human being who deserved to be brought up well, so I kept her and found competent, certified daycare to prevent/undo any damage I might do by attempting to raise her myself. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d only call this &#8220;biology&#8221; in the sense that selfish interest is inherent to our species.</p>
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		<title>By: Delishka</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-39949</link>
		<author>Delishka</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-39949</guid>
		<description>I apologise again...I'm noticing little typo misspellings in my post :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologise again&#8230;I&#8217;m noticing little typo misspellings in my post :(</p>
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		<title>By: Delishka</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-39947</link>
		<author>Delishka</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/02/28/glamour-dont/#comment-39947</guid>
		<description>I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that that would be strictly biological, just that there is a biological and chemical component to our attachment to others, children especially.  As has been pointed out...kids are a lot of hassle, they take up time and energy and resources...the species would die out if it were a strictly intellectual excercise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that that would be strictly biological, just that there is a biological and chemical component to our attachment to others, children especially.  As has been pointed out&#8230;kids are a lot of hassle, they take up time and energy and resources&#8230;the species would die out if it were a strictly intellectual excercise.</p>
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