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Apr 23 2007

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The spinster aunt expresses her views on the MRA agenda.

What’s an ‘MRA’?

Massively [W]rong Asshole. Or men’s rights activist.

Why don’ the Odd Lady want none of them in her car?

MRAs are patriarchy-deniers. The ideologies of this violent and knobbish subset of the Male Dominion spring from male fear of women’s personal sovereignty, and manifest in practice as active misogyny. Men suffer, O how they suffer, at the hands of subhuman conniving bitches who seek world domination through insane women-are-human propaganda and the misguided attempt to claim their own internal organs as private property. The MRA imagines that women’s interests control and abuse him in an ever more feminized world; he erroneously sees himself as a battered victim of women’s agency, rather than what he actually is: a moron.

The goals of the men’s rights ‘movement’ include, but are not limited to:

• supporting legislation that would give men an edge in child custody battles.
• the right to hijack another human being’s personal uterus if the MRA suspects his sacred genetic material is involved in an embryo contained therein.
• promulgating baseless claims that men are in constant danger of physical assault by legions of villainous females, and that there exists some kind of vast matriarchal conspiracy to cover this up.
• the practice of beating up women, kidnaping her kids, going on the lam, convincing family court judges that the woman is crazy, and summarily escaping jail time.

Anyone who cries “what about the men?” in a radical feminist forum is, whether he likes it or not, an MRA sympathizer.

If you’re ever bored of a rainy afternoon, and feel that an inundation of hate mail and death threats would be just the thing to break up the ennui, try dropping this factbomb at an MRA forum:

“Abusive fathers are far more likely than nonabusive parents to fight for child custody, not pay child support, and kidnap children.”[cite]

OK, but surely there can’t be anything wrong with niceguys? Why don’t the Odd Lady want them in her car?

Click here for a complete, if somewhat rambling, overview.

Did you rip off the Odd Lady’s motto from Norbizness?

I haven’t the faintest idea what you’re talking about.

75 comments

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  1. Feminist Avatar

    My ‘favourite’ MRA agenda is women don’t actually earn less than men- it’s not the fault of men if women don’t work as hard or are not intelligent enough to be promoted- it’s wrong to promote somebody just because they’re a woman. It definitely isn’t a structural problem because women are equal after all. If she takes time out to have a baby- her employer can’t possibly be expected to pay her the same as the man who was there while she was off as those nine months more experience will give him such a great edge even twenty-years later. I mean what about payment for LOYALTY! Furthermore employers are about money and CANNOT be expected to endure the burden of legislation that supports equal pay, maternity pay etc as then the companies will just leave and set up in Africa/ India and where will that leave the economy.

  2. anne

    I can hardly even stand the hilarity of that photo.

    And, of course, my love for your use of language continues unabated. LOVE.

    Neither of those things have a smidge to do with your post, but I had to say them anyway.

    /relurking, because I am still very much a novice

  3. Cass

    The latest MRA talking point is that we’re “anti-family”, which is supposed to carry the same force, I suppose, of calling someone “anti-puppy”.

  4. norbizness

    Be careful what you say, some of the MRAs across the pond are superheroes. Wait a minute, Batman didn’t have superpowers, he was just a psychotic loner. Well, that definitely makes more sense, then.

  5. Antoinette Niebieszczanski

    Holy crap on a cracker, how on earth do these maroons manage to get laid in the first place?

  6. Medbh

    Feminist Avatar, check out the AP story posted on the NYT today. The study released by the American Association of University Women concluded that women make 80% of men’s salary one year after graduation.
    10 years after graduation they make 69%
    The reason?
    Wait for it.
    Gender discrimination!
    MRAs can suck on that.

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/business/AP-Pay-Gap.html?r=1&oref=slogin

  7. Mamasquab

    The pay differential is now 69 percent? Holy shit! Last I heard, women were making 75 cents to mens’ dollar, overall. So if they’d just get out of the colleges and into the factories where they belong, they’d be better off. But not much.

  8. Radalan

    I define “MRA” in a similar way, as “Misogynist Redneck Asshole.” It’s a definition that’s a bit problematic if you’re in a big city up north, but it sure works well here in the sticks.

  9. Cass

    What’s the deal with Batman anyway? Everytime I’d watch SuperFriends, Aquaman would be communing with the fish, Wonder Woman flying her invisible plane and Superman, of course, being Superman. Batman and Robin? They’d have to drive their car to the crime scene. I always wanted to see Wonder Woman pipe up during one of their brainstorming sessions: “You know, you’re just a couple of guys in leotards”.

    Fortunately, our domestic MRAs are much less clever at grabbing attention for themselves and getting their asinine points across than their UK counterparts. I watched one of their spokesmen testify in a legislative committee once- it was not, I’m pleased to say, a pretty sight.

  10. Feminist Avatar

    Thanks for this Medbh.

    Speaking of men in tights- Fathers for Justice (the superheros Norbizness mentions) are going international. They plan to launch in the US in Autumn 2007. Lucky you!

  11. norbizness

    Actually, the MRA patron superhero should be the dude from the Wonder Twins, except that instead of turning into some implement made of ice, water, or steam, they can only turn into a manure-based object.

  12. BubbasNightmare

    Know thine enemy.

    As to the reference to the Batman, I always liked the character because he was the one that fought without superpowers. I never liked Robin because he dressed–oddly.

  13. hedonistic

    I’m dying here! Dying I tell you!

    http://pinkofeministhellcat.typepad.com/pinko_feminist_hellcat/2005/08/presidentforlif.html

  14. Antoinette Niebieszczanski

    Hedonistic, that was *hilarious*. I about soiled myself. My reply to Lou Ser: Punish me, punish me!

  15. CafeSiren

    My favorite bit from the “Nice Guys(tm)” rant:

    “[They] place the object of their desire on a pedestal. Instead of appreciating her, they worship her. We are only human, and pedestals are narrow, confining places to be — not to mention the fact that we tend to fall off of them.”

    Oh my, yes. I know this guy.

    Of course, there are “Nice Women(tm),” too. Oughta know — I was one of them for too long. I grew out of it, thank the gods.

  16. kcb

    manure-based object

    Jesus, I can’t stop giggling now. I spend my days with two little boys so it’s a rare treat to encounter a new synonym for crap. The corporate-speak just adds to the delight factor.

  17. Ursartist

    What about those guys who are for personnal sovereignty for all(except the criminals of society); the men who don’t feel sex and/or gender define choice of roles or worth of a person? We are rare but still present. We also accept our share of blame in the patriarchal mess that is perpetuated.
    And about Batman: he’s assuredly bi. Robin is definitely gay and very jealous/envious of Catwoman.

  18. norbizness

    BTW, the advice that concludes the Nice Guy treatise… I have to LIKE myself? What the deuce?

  19. Sean

    “Of course, there are “Nice Women(tm),” too. Oughta know — I was one of them for too long. I grew out of it, thank the gods.”

    But are there websites and entire organizations devoted to the “Nice Women” cause? Do “Nice Women” blame all men for not being able to find a great love that they can own?

    Feminism is about the oppression of women because the oppression of men (in the power/privilege/sex sense) is non-existent. For women to believe they are oppressed, it’s honesty. For men to believe they are oppressed, it’s psychological problems.

  20. ginmar

    I dn’t necessarily know that liking yourself too much is a good deal. Hey, MRAs like themselves, and look what happens.

    My own favorite MRAism? You don’t want equality, you want to take over!

  21. Sean

    Oh, and MRA stands for “Men Reduced to Asininity.” It’s a word, really!

  22. CafeSiren

    Nice re-interpretation, Sean. But, at the risk of using an overplayed word, I’d go with “Asshattery.” I just like the way it sounds.

  23. Twisty

    “What about those guys who [...]?”

    Now now, Ursartist. What did I just say about men who say “what about the men?”?

  24. The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker

    Am I the only one who gets bupkis when I click on the cite link?

  25. Twisty

    Hedonistic:”Am I the only one who gets bupkis when I click on the cite link?”

    Fixed.

  26. TP

    “But what about the farewell drugs, Sid?”

    -Sid & Nancy

    If you have ever heard Nancy wailing this out of the unkempt bed in the Chelsea Hotel, then you have some idea of the exact tone of wail I hear whenever I hear someone asking “what about the men?”

    It’s a bottomless wail of self pity and addiction. Addiction to privilege!

  27. mAndrea

    Ursartist. While I appreciate men who aren’t on a patriarchal power trip, I hope you can understand why you don’t get a cookie for maintaining such views. It’s the exact same reason why you don’t get a cookie for believing blacks are people too.

    Understanding that every human is automatically entitled to personal autonomy, equal rights, etc, is the DEFAULT postion.

    Did you come here from pandagon?

  28. mAndrea

    Incidently, Ursartist is just one example of why I’m coming to believe there are almost zero truly profeminist men. They want a fucking cookie for doing the right thing.

    I should get a cookie for not going on a bloody rampage by that logic. In fact, my cookie jar should be full on account of all the bad things I *haven’t* done.

    You did come here from pandagon, didn’t you?

  29. Jodie

    “But are there websites and entire organizations devoted to the “Nice Women” cause? Do “Nice Women” blame all men for not being able to find a great love that they can own?”

    No. NiceWomen(TM) never complain, never blame, and never rock the boat. NiceWomen who don’t find love assume it’s their own fault. NiceWomen don’t expect cookies, rarely get cookies, and if one does happen to acquire one, she gives it away to some man or some kid.

    I oughta know; I’ve spent much of my life trying to sort out the destructive NiceWomen tendencies from my overabundance of optimism, altruism and all around mellowness. I’m still waiting for the day I can finally get good and mad on my own behalf (I’ve finally managed to get mad on other people’s behalf) without feeling like I’ve done something wrong.

    I blame the patriarchy.

  30. Artemis

    Sorry, I think the psychobabble at the Nice Guys link is way too far below the standard of clear thinking and writing we enjoy here.

    I don’t think Nice Guy and Needy Guy are directly synonymous. The Needy Guy described on that page is also such a clear example of psychotherapy jargon and the tendency for psychotherapists to create their own forms of strawpeople that I can’t take it seriously.

    When I see Nice Guys post here and across the feminist blogosphere it’s always to make the case for some version of half-hearted decency that said NG should be getting credit for. I don’t think it’s about neediness, I think it’s about half-assedness. They’ve heard enough over the years to know better, they do know better to some degree, but they don’t want to put in any major effort at real change. Of course, they like their privilege. Rather than putting in that effort (and risk losing their privilege), the Nice Guy then takes the position that being nice is enough. Afterall, some of their best friends are women!

    I hate psychotherapy jargon. People are so much more complicated and interesting than the crap that field routinely spouts.

  31. Bird

    When a guy shows signs of wanting cookies for anti-patriarchy behaviour, I simply agree with his (correct) statements or act as if his actions are simply what is expected. For example, when he says “that music video is really misogynistic!” I respond with, “Yes, it is, isn’t it? Did you notice this particular subtext?” That seems avoid indulging tail-wagging behaviour on his part. They’re really kind of taken aback when you don’t respond with “There’s a good Nice Guy!” or “Well, duh!” Treating it like a serious intellectual discussion throws a real wrench into their perceptions. Then they actually might have to think about why what they’ve identified is a problem.

  32. femhist

    mAndrea, they definitely do exist. It’s just that they’re not as obvious as the ones that go around patting themselves on the back for their own graciousness in acknowledging that women are people too. They frequently feel like the discussion is carrying on quite well without their input. When they do add their two cents, their comments are never about themselves, but about the issue at hand. Often, their handles are gender-neutral. So, not nearly so easy to spot as the “but, but…lots of us don’t beat women!!!” types.

  33. Inverarity

    mAndrea, they definitely do exist. It’s just that they’re not as obvious as the ones that go around patting themselves on the back for their own graciousness in acknowledging that women are people too. They frequently feel like the discussion is carrying on quite well without their input. When they do add their two cents, their comments are never about themselves, but about the issue at hand.

    Yeah, exactly! Just like m– Oops. Damn!

    (Slinks away without a cookie.)

  34. curtis

    Being a guy who kind of struggled for awhile while lurking and reading this blog, I hope I can help a couple of ‘nice guys’ somewhere figure this out.

    The first thing I stumbled on is reading generalities as absolutes, which my reading it that way violated the principle of charity and made me unable to get the point of what was said. For instance, if someone says ‘men are assholes’ as a general statement I can’t help but agree with them since I have reached the same conclusion. If I read that as an absolute statement then there is no where to go with it, and dialogue ends. I got over that problem and no longer feel defensive and reactionary when reading Twisty’s posts or the commentariat.

    A nice person, say someone who is kind, gentle, patient, or whatever, is a nice PERSON. Doesn’t matter what the gender is, and they don’t need affirmation for it, it has its own rewards, such as self respect and being well liked.

    On the other hand, a ‘nice guy’ is just a slightly more subtle and often self-deluded form of an unearned privilege bearing asshole.

    While I agree with Artemis that the needy insecure men are only one particular subtype of ‘nice guys’, I think pinkofeministhellcat captures the whiny annoying tone we hear from all of them quite nicely.

    One last thing for the ‘nice guys’, can you maybe try to figure out that you are reading a radical feminist blog and that mens opinions and feelings, as men, are in fact completely irrelevant here.

  35. Anna

    I currently live in Perth, Australia and every Sunday they have this “Speaker’s Corner” thing where anyone can stand up and speak.

    There’s a guy who stands up every week with his “Equal Rights for Men” poster and yells a lot.

    This week I only caught the tail end of his argument, which was “Men make more money because they work in more dangerous jobs!” (followed by “advertising is all for women” and “women control the purse strings” and “I don’t assume I’m right, I *know* I’m right!” Sometime before I leave, I’m bring my video camera.)

    I love that whole “men work more dangerous jobs than women”. I’ll pass that along to the university professors I know who make 30 000 a year less than their dangerously-employed male colleagues.

  36. mearl

    Men work more dangerous jobs than women? I can’t say it any other way so I’ll just say it: (

  37. mearl

    Men work more dangerous jobs than women? I can’t say it any other way so I’ll just say it…(drum roll…HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW.

    How many women get killed on or off the job by men, get harassed by men, get stalked by men, get followed from their job and attacked or raped by men, get their personal info shared with strangers by men who obtain it illegally, etc. etc. etc. etc. And that’s just on the jobs that have nothing about danger in their job descriptions.

    And all those men doing exactly the same non-dangerous jobs as women, working less hard and for a lot more pay, how does one explain that? Sure, I’ll get on board for the MRAs. I like to align myself with those logical and realistic organisations that champion a GOOD CAUSE.

  38. mearl

    Oho! The blame preview that prevents an ellipsis! Genius.

  39. Mandos

  40. Twisty

    Mandos: The Man, The Rebel.

  41. BubbasNightmare

    Mandos, Mandos, Mandos.

    Twisty, Twisty, Twisty.

  42. DeadMan

    I don’t want a cookie for treating women like human beings (do I get a cookie for not wanting a cookie? Damn it! I never get cookies). But seriously, every time I hear a man call himself a feminist my first thought is “dude just wants to sleep with a feminist”. I’m always highly distrustful, I’ve found a quick way to tell if a guy is legit is if he still identifies himself as a feminist when he’s drinking with his friends and there are no women around … will he put himself in a position to be ridiculed by other men (and trust me they will) for saying what he believes is true. If he does that (and doesn’t think he’s entitled to a parade for not being a cock) I can at least start to consider him to maybe be an actual feminist. It’s pretty damn rare I know, but it happens.

  43. Bird

    DeadMan, if boys want cookies, they have to bake them for themselves.

  44. Rebecca

    Another great feminist rant on the “nice guy” trope is here:

    http://www.saidit.org/archives/mar00/mar_article1.html

  45. Sylvanite

    Well, if paycheck disparity is the direct result of taking on hazards, I’d like to know when the checks are going to start rolling in for pregnancy and childbirth.

    It’s also good to know that coal miners should be making more money than plastic surgeons, by the same line of reasoning.

  46. DeadMan

    “DeadMan, if boys want cookies, they have to bake them for themselves.”

    very true :) … that actually made me think of something, maybe boys should be making their own (metaphorical) cookies … from now on I’m going to make an effort to try and give guys their props when they stand up for what’s right. They don’t actually deserve any special treatment for not being dicks but a little encouragement can’t hurt either. And I think that encouragement should be coming from other like-minded men. Let the decent ones know they’re not alone. Anyway I`m off topic, as always I leave I blame the patriarchy with something to think about.

    thanks

  47. Bird

    Wow, that was unexpected.

  48. DeadMan

    « Wow, that was unexpected. »

    How so? (I’m not trying to be annoying or anything I’m just legitimately curious).

  49. Mandos

    Well, if paycheck disparity is the direct result of taking on hazards, I’d like to know when the checks are going to start rolling in for pregnancy and childbirth.

    Be careful what you wish for.

  50. Bird

    Explanation: understanding that I meant that men have an obligation to deal with their own shit instead of getting all offended that some woman wasn’t going to do it for you=unexpected.

    This comment smells suspiciously like a cookie.

  51. Bird

    Sylvanite, I believe it’s $500 if you live in Texas, at least if Dan Patrick gets his way.

  52. W. Kiernan

    “MRA”? Isn’t that one of those funky pre-packaged meals they make soldiers eat?

    As for that line about guys having all the dangerous jobs, I laugh. I am a land surveyor. When I work in the office my chances of dying on the job are the same as for all you other cubicle worms, about seven per hundred-thousand per year. But when I take to the field and have to dodge highway traffic and construction equipment, my likelihood of death jumps up by a factor of about four or five, to where it’s roughly the same as for police officers, about 30-35 per 100K per year. And this is still only about two thirds the on-the-job mortality rate for a really death-defying job I once had: convenience store cashier. I can not help but notice how an awful lot of convenience store cashiers are women.

    …promulgating baseless claims that men are in constant danger of physical assault by legions of villainous females, and that there exists some kind of vast matriarchal conspiracy to cover this up.

    Oh, but it’s twue, it’s all twue! Those scary womens! They’ll hit me! I’m so afwaid!

    /sob whimp

  53. DeadMan

    Thanks for the honest answer

    “This comment smells suspiciously like a cookie.”

    That made me laugh … but don’t worry I won’t consider it a cookie. I’ll consider it to simply be what it is: honest surprise that I’m not a complete dickhead. I find that extremely understandable.

  54. mearl

    Whew! Remind me not to post when I am hammered. Sorry about that.

  55. Sylvanite

    Psh. $500 surely is chump change for the hazards of the situation. I don’t quite understand why these sorts of people seem to nurture policies that are so oppressive to the poor, yet want to put in a financial reward that would only appeal to the desperate and poverty-stricken. What a stupid idea. Of course, it did come from some legislator in Texas.

    I was sort of vaguely aware of this stupid idea, but was really aiming for the fact that pregnancy and childbirth are completely uncompensated, not to mention the child-rearing part, even though it’s all hard work. But, it’s women’s work, so why value it? Who cares if it’s dangerous?

  56. Luckynkl

    Men, as we all know, are all legends in their own minds. I haven’t met a guy yet who didn’t think he was a nice guy. I’ve met murderers, rapists, wife/gf beaters, pedophiles and child abusers who all insist they’re nice guys. Well, of course they’re nice guys. How else could they lure any woman or child to get within 100 yards of them? Take Ted Bundy, for example. He was a really nice guy too. Until one made the mistake of getting in his Volkswagon.

    Men are not nice guys, ok? They don’t do anything out of the goodness of their hearts. Men won’t lift a finger unless there’s something in it for them. They expect a return on their investment.

    Take a discussion I had with this guy on another forum. He was telling me what a nice guy he was because he walked women from his class to their cars after it got dark. There was a rapist running around on campus and the women were fearful. I asked him if he walked all the fat, ugly chicks from his class to their cars too? He stuttered and stammered a bit and then laughed and said, “Got me, Luck.” He didn’t walk women to their cars. He walked potential dating material to their cars. At the very least, he got to talk and be seen with pretty women. Slick, huh?

  57. Mar Iguana

    “Be careful what you wish for.” Mandos

    You boys just can’t stop yourselves, can you? Achtung bebe.

  58. justicewalks

    Men won’t lift a finger unless there’s something in it for them. They expect a return on their investment.

    No kidding, Luckynkl. I was just making this same point with regard to men who come to the conveniently belated realization that coercing women into sex is wrong only after they’ve gotten all their youthful raping out of their systems and can now rely on the kinder-older-(possibly-richer)-enlightened-gentleman schtick to get consenting younger pussy. It’s amazing to me the feminist kudos such a man gets. You can practically hear the “feminists” clamoring for their mixing bowls and baking sheets as soon as he makes his entrance.

  59. Mandos

    No kidding, Luckynkl. I was just making this same point with regard to men who come to the conveniently belated realization that coercing women into sex is wrong only after they’ve gotten all their youthful raping out of their systems and can now rely on the kinder-older-(possibly-richer)-enlightened-gentleman schtick to get consenting younger pussy.

    You know, assuming it’s generally true, this is a kind of catch-22 sort of thing, isn’t it?

  60. Luckynkl

    It’s amazing to me the feminist kudos such a man gets. You can practically hear the “feminists” clamoring for their mixing bowls and baking sheets as soon as he makes his entrance.

    That’s not feminism. That’s just business as usual under the patriarchy.

    But here’s a clue on how to spot the faux pro-feminist male from the real McCoy. Pro-feminist men don’t hang around women. You’ll find them in men’s groups talking to men. Calling men to the carpet on their bullshit and using their power, politically, economically and socially to offset that of the brotherhood’s.

    Now for the test. Guess what Mandos is?

  61. Mandos

    Now for the test. Guess what Mandos is?

    A mental astronaut and dilettante, duh. I’ve made no claims about myself.

  62. LouisaMayAlcott

    Lucky said:

    “Now for the test. Guess what Mandos is?”

    Yo, Lucky! You just made my day.

    Huge grin.

  63. Ursartist

    For clarification, the “what about the men who…” was not a cookie request or the request for a pat on the head.
    Simply, the question was, do men who empathize and sympathize with the hell that patriarchy has brought, count? The resounding answer was un-uh. Perhaps someday you will carve out your own little ideal nation and perfect parthenogenisis.
    I get it now; you don’t really want or need common ground to understand your grievances toward patriarchy with the opposite sex. Good luck with that.

  64. Eurosabra

    Mandos,

    Catch-22? I hear you, man, but the problem is that the implications of that position are so illiberal that I shudder to think of them. I also shudder to think of the Blamer response. This goes back to my observation that triggered LMYC’s “Pussy or Death” rant on the Waiterrant thread–the perspective of age enabling one to back off from the elements of male sexual agency in the initiator role in consensual heterosexuality (assuming a priori that one ISN’T a rapist) that are coercive. No cookie for just being a decent human being, sorry. Unfortunately, IamTP.

  65. Artemis

    It was so quick and easy to expose Ursartist it made me wonder whether there can’t be a section in the FAQ for a list of NGV (Nice Guy Vignettes) so all those nice guys can dispense with their actual comments and see that it’s all been said and answered. Some folks need illustrations.

    Here are two vignettes right from this here thread:
    NG: “What about those guys who [..]?
    Twisty: Now now, [NG]. What did I just say about men who say “what about the men?”?

    NG: “We are rare but still present. We also accept our share of blame in the patriarchal mess that is perpetuated.”
    IBTP Commenter: “While I appreciate men who aren’t on a patriarchal power trip, I hope you can understand why you don’t get a cookie for maintaining such views.”
    NG: Dramatically whirls his Liberal Dude cape and abandons us to our sad, NG-less fate, but not before letting us know how wrong, wrong, wrong we really are.

  66. Bird

    Artemis, somehow I saw that whole thing with Andrew Lloyd Webber-style staging. Can we mount a production of Twisty Faster and the Nice Guy: The Musical? I promise to include a scene with a struggling MRA on the railway tracks.

  67. Mandos

    Everything is better as a musical.

  68. RadFemHedonist

    NG: “We are rare but still present. We also accept our share of blame in the patriarchal mess that is perpetuated.”
    IBTP Commenter: “While I appreciate men who aren’t on a patriarchal power trip, I hope you can understand why you don’t get a cookie for maintaining such views.”
    NG: Dramatically whirls his Liberal Dude cape and abandons us to our sad, NG-less fate, but not before letting us know how wrong, wrong, wrong we really are.

    Why, why are there no emoticons on this blog, if only I could put a little laughing face here, oh well, LOL will suffice, it is seriously illuminating when people make one niceish comment and then huffily storm off in the next, for crap’s sake.

  69. Twisty

    RadFemHedonist, emoticons are discussed in the FAQ.

    Ah, the FAQ. I delude myself that people actually read it, even though my view-counter reveals that it is only rarely accessed, and even then, it’s usually some dumbfuck Googler searching for porn.

  70. Spit The Dummy

    RadFemHedonist said:

    “it is seriously illuminating when people make one niceish comment and then huffily storm off in the next, for crap’s sake”

    “I’m saying this nice thing to you but I’m not after a cookie. (Are you going to give me a cookie?)”

    “I’m really not saying this so you’ll give me cookie. Really. (Where’s my cookie?)”

    “Look, I’m being really nice to you here, I WANT a cookie, you bitches!”

    It doesn’t take much for the Mr Nice Guy’s sense of entitlement to bounce back, does it? Pity it wouldn’t thwack him in the arse as he flounces off. Plus, you know, great practical on-list illustration of Luckynkl’s “males don’t give you nothing for free” argument. Obviously we were all supposed to slobber over the dude in gratitude that he bothered to think about us at all.

  71. RadFemHedonist

    Aw c’mon, emoticons are fun, everytime I see the nodding one I crack up. Also I did read the FAQ, four times infact, but I forgot that line, I also read the scum manifesto and all the back posts (I think).

  72. thebewilderness

    The snide ‘good luck with that’ parting shot always makes me smile. I think it’s bravado, but it might be the blissful ignorance of the true believer faced with heresy.

  73. Artemis

    We’re stackin’ up the work for Twisty here. Which production will she work on first, “Twisty Faster and the Nice Guy: The Musical” or “MST3K: The Twisty Way”?

    Hey, kids, let’s put on a show!

  74. Laser Potato

    “Batman didn’t have superpowers, he was just a psychotic loner.”

    A psychotic loner who eventually got a sidekick, who later quit and became a psychotic loner himself. (Alright, it wasn’t the SAME Robin. But STILL!)

  75. Genevieve

    MRA=MR. Asshole.
    I thought of this the other night when I couldn’t sleep. Thought I’d share it.

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