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		<title>By: thebewilderness</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/09/komedy-korner-3/#comment-60489</link>
		<dc:creator>thebewilderness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 18:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a longstanding tradition among a segment of career criminals to violate parole or probation as winter comes on for the sake of three hots and a cot. Now that some states have started charging inmates for room, board, and medical care, I suspect they will return to the bad old days when they starve and freeze to death on the streets. I am reminded that I despise Ronnie Rayguns with the fire of a thousand suns.

Re my comment upthread, I think Hilton went in to this with the attitude that nothing ever happens that her money or status won&#039;t cover. She has seen her celeb peers walk away from this sort of thing repeatedly with minor inconvenience. I&#039;m sure she was quite shocked to be treated like a common criminal.

One of the many myths of the patriarchy is that women get off easier with law enforcement and the courts. The facts don&#039;t bear it out, but the myth persists. Prior to determinate sentencing in this state, it was not unusual for a male judge to sentence a woman to prison for a crime that commonly received probation. Further, they often stated during sentencing that they did it to &#039;teach her a lesson&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a longstanding tradition among a segment of career criminals to violate parole or probation as winter comes on for the sake of three hots and a cot. Now that some states have started charging inmates for room, board, and medical care, I suspect they will return to the bad old days when they starve and freeze to death on the streets. I am reminded that I despise Ronnie Rayguns with the fire of a thousand suns.</p>
<p>Re my comment upthread, I think Hilton went in to this with the attitude that nothing ever happens that her money or status won&#8217;t cover. She has seen her celeb peers walk away from this sort of thing repeatedly with minor inconvenience. I&#8217;m sure she was quite shocked to be treated like a common criminal.</p>
<p>One of the many myths of the patriarchy is that women get off easier with law enforcement and the courts. The facts don&#8217;t bear it out, but the myth persists. Prior to determinate sentencing in this state, it was not unusual for a male judge to sentence a woman to prison for a crime that commonly received probation. Further, they often stated during sentencing that they did it to &#8216;teach her a lesson&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lessons in blaming from the celebrities at I Blame The Patriarchy</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/09/komedy-korner-3/#comment-60433</link>
		<dc:creator>Lessons in blaming from the celebrities at I Blame The Patriarchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 16:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Not all discourse on the subject of celebrities has to be vapid. Sometimes the cynosure class&#8217; exploits, as reported by the legion of professional watchers charged with the duty of exalting them to an insatiable public, can be instructive. I won&#8217;t say that the &#8220;Free Paris&#8221; thread scaled any unmastered pinnacles of blaming greatness, but it wasn&#8217;t a total bore. As blamer Catherine Martell pointed out, &#8220;Nelson Mandela she ain&#8217;t.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Not all discourse on the subject of celebrities has to be vapid. Sometimes the cynosure class&#8217; exploits, as reported by the legion of professional watchers charged with the duty of exalting them to an insatiable public, can be instructive. I won&#8217;t say that the &#8220;Free Paris&#8221; thread scaled any unmastered pinnacles of blaming greatness, but it wasn&#8217;t a total bore. As blamer Catherine Martell pointed out, &#8220;Nelson Mandela she ain&#8217;t.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hawise</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/09/komedy-korner-3/#comment-60393</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 14:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read a statistic somewhere that one of the fastest growing criminal groups are the elderly.  Three meals, a bed and bad medical treatment are better than what they have now. I can&#039;t find it in me to deny them at least that much. What a country, seniors holding up gas stations for a place to sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a statistic somewhere that one of the fastest growing criminal groups are the elderly.  Three meals, a bed and bad medical treatment are better than what they have now. I can&#8217;t find it in me to deny them at least that much. What a country, seniors holding up gas stations for a place to sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: LouisaMayAlcott</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/09/komedy-korner-3/#comment-60384</link>
		<dc:creator>LouisaMayAlcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hawise,

Yeah, and I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if there were more than a few homeless women who would be willing to the spend 45 days in there, in place of her.</description>
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<p>Yeah, and I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if there were more than a few homeless women who would be willing to the spend 45 days in there, in place of her.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawise</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/09/komedy-korner-3/#comment-60378</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no big fan of treating &quot;celebrities&quot; as special as they are mostly chosen by agents and photogs as the style of the week but Paris was initially treated like all the rest, male and female.  She was given a slap on the wrist sentence and the requirement to do rehab and even that was put off so that she could get her affairs in order.  She then sped on a suspended license after the point that she was supposed to be in rehab and then disrespected the person whose job it was to decide her fate. She could have done her cushy spa/rehab and come out the gates into the paparzzi swarm as a &quot;better person&quot;. She could have played the whole &quot;I have fulfilled my societal obligation and am not a rich whackjob&quot; game but she didn&#039;t. Now she gets to spend 45 days in a small room with a toilet eating sandwiches and cereal- oh, boo hoo, my heart breaks for her.  She&#039;ll write a book with an atrocious pink cover and we&#039;ll all live to regret this vapid woman&#039;s punishment more than she will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no big fan of treating &#8220;celebrities&#8221; as special as they are mostly chosen by agents and photogs as the style of the week but Paris was initially treated like all the rest, male and female.  She was given a slap on the wrist sentence and the requirement to do rehab and even that was put off so that she could get her affairs in order.  She then sped on a suspended license after the point that she was supposed to be in rehab and then disrespected the person whose job it was to decide her fate. She could have done her cushy spa/rehab and come out the gates into the paparzzi swarm as a &#8220;better person&#8221;. She could have played the whole &#8220;I have fulfilled my societal obligation and am not a rich whackjob&#8221; game but she didn&#8217;t. Now she gets to spend 45 days in a small room with a toilet eating sandwiches and cereal- oh, boo hoo, my heart breaks for her.  She&#8217;ll write a book with an atrocious pink cover and we&#8217;ll all live to regret this vapid woman&#8217;s punishment more than she will.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine Martell</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/09/komedy-korner-3/#comment-60333</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine Martell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 08:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The lesson Paris Hilton just learned is that she will not be treated the same as male celebrities are treated.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Hold on a minute. I thought the principle was that &quot;all are equal in the eyes of the law&quot;. Now, obviously, we know this isn&#039;t true, but I certainly don&#039;t remember it saying &quot;all &lt;i&gt;celebrities&lt;/i&gt; are equal in the eyes of the law&quot;. We know how Hilton&#039;s sentence compares to the other celebrities mentioned above: it appears to be approximately comparable to DMX&#039;s sentence, and more lenient than Busta Rhymes&#039;s. Had Hilton pleaded alcohol addiction, she might have got off with rehab as Baldwin did. We don&#039;t know. 

But you can keep cherrypicking examples of other miscreant celebrities and their sentences all day, and I&#039;m sure Hilton&#039;s legal team would be very grateful if you did. On the other hand, how does her sentence compare to the average handed down in that jurisdiction for that offence to, say, unemployed black men aged 21-34? Or to prostituted women? Or to illegal immigrants? Or to the average of all defendants?

Perhaps a few celebrities have come off very lightly in their run-ins with the law. That&#039;s a problem, no doubt about it. And I don&#039;t doubt that thebewilderness is right in saying that some judges take pleasure in teaching women a lesson, though bearing in mind the wealth of statistics showing that black people are prosecuted and sentenced disproportionately in the US you might illustrate an even wider legal trend by comparing DMX&#039;s sentence with Baldwin&#039;s. But it seems to me, looking at Hilton&#039;s lengthy history of driving violations, intoxication at the wheel, and open disrespect of probation, that the bigger picture here is that she has actually evaded justice for a very long time. 

She may well evade it again now. With the legal team she can finance, the chances of her actually making it to the clink, or staying there for more than two hours, are pretty low. 

The judge&#039;s summing up was very clear: he thought that Hilton had deliberately disregarded her probationary notice because she wanted to continue to drive. There was no indication, in any of his remarks, that he held any opinions on Hilton &lt;i&gt;qua&lt;/i&gt; woman. There was an indication that he thought she was rich and overprivileged: when prosecutors asked him to impound her car, he refused, saying that &quot;I think she probably has about five other cars&quot;; he then apologised for this &quot;facetious&quot; comment. So perhaps he was biased against Hilton &lt;i&gt;qua&lt;/i&gt; rich brat. If anyone wants to jump up and down shouting &quot;Judges are prejudiced against the rich!&quot;, this may be your one and only chance. 

In the meantime, I am completely with Thealogian and kathy a, and the judge, and have little sympathy for the wilfully negligent drunk-driving heiress. I actually think that 45 days of thinking time and contact with people who aren&#039;t all spoilt brats with private incomes might do her a world of good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The lesson Paris Hilton just learned is that she will not be treated the same as male celebrities are treated.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hold on a minute. I thought the principle was that &#8220;all are equal in the eyes of the law&#8221;. Now, obviously, we know this isn&#8217;t true, but I certainly don&#8217;t remember it saying &#8220;all <i>celebrities</i> are equal in the eyes of the law&#8221;. We know how Hilton&#8217;s sentence compares to the other celebrities mentioned above: it appears to be approximately comparable to DMX&#8217;s sentence, and more lenient than Busta Rhymes&#8217;s. Had Hilton pleaded alcohol addiction, she might have got off with rehab as Baldwin did. We don&#8217;t know. </p>
<p>But you can keep cherrypicking examples of other miscreant celebrities and their sentences all day, and I&#8217;m sure Hilton&#8217;s legal team would be very grateful if you did. On the other hand, how does her sentence compare to the average handed down in that jurisdiction for that offence to, say, unemployed black men aged 21-34? Or to prostituted women? Or to illegal immigrants? Or to the average of all defendants?</p>
<p>Perhaps a few celebrities have come off very lightly in their run-ins with the law. That&#8217;s a problem, no doubt about it. And I don&#8217;t doubt that thebewilderness is right in saying that some judges take pleasure in teaching women a lesson, though bearing in mind the wealth of statistics showing that black people are prosecuted and sentenced disproportionately in the US you might illustrate an even wider legal trend by comparing DMX&#8217;s sentence with Baldwin&#8217;s. But it seems to me, looking at Hilton&#8217;s lengthy history of driving violations, intoxication at the wheel, and open disrespect of probation, that the bigger picture here is that she has actually evaded justice for a very long time. </p>
<p>She may well evade it again now. With the legal team she can finance, the chances of her actually making it to the clink, or staying there for more than two hours, are pretty low. </p>
<p>The judge&#8217;s summing up was very clear: he thought that Hilton had deliberately disregarded her probationary notice because she wanted to continue to drive. There was no indication, in any of his remarks, that he held any opinions on Hilton <i>qua</i> woman. There was an indication that he thought she was rich and overprivileged: when prosecutors asked him to impound her car, he refused, saying that &#8220;I think she probably has about five other cars&#8221;; he then apologised for this &#8220;facetious&#8221; comment. So perhaps he was biased against Hilton <i>qua</i> rich brat. If anyone wants to jump up and down shouting &#8220;Judges are prejudiced against the rich!&#8221;, this may be your one and only chance. </p>
<p>In the meantime, I am completely with Thealogian and kathy a, and the judge, and have little sympathy for the wilfully negligent drunk-driving heiress. I actually think that 45 days of thinking time and contact with people who aren&#8217;t all spoilt brats with private incomes might do her a world of good.</p>
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		<title>By: thebewilderness</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/09/komedy-korner-3/#comment-60234</link>
		<dc:creator>thebewilderness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 01:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience some judges take great pleasure in teaching women a lesson. The lesson Paris Hilton just learned is that she will not be treated the same as male celebrities are treated.</description>
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		<title>By: MedeaOnCrack</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/09/komedy-korner-3/#comment-60203</link>
		<dc:creator>MedeaOnCrack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 23:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m especially cynical of late, but do I hear the beginnings of a jail survivor tv program? 

I don&#039;t diss Martha; she did what only men had done before her. Made a couple million on what women do/did. I give that to her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m especially cynical of late, but do I hear the beginnings of a jail survivor tv program? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t diss Martha; she did what only men had done before her. Made a couple million on what women do/did. I give that to her.</p>
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		<title>By: kathy a</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/09/komedy-korner-3/#comment-60195</link>
		<dc:creator>kathy a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 23:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and thealogian -- damned right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and thealogian &#8212; damned right.</p>
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		<title>By: kathy a</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/09/komedy-korner-3/#comment-60192</link>
		<dc:creator>kathy a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 23:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jamyr -- look, you have a point about the criminal justice system often being patriarchy in action.  [if i&#039;m interpreting your larger point correctly.]  the system is *supposed* to be about public protection, but in practice, that turns out to be locking up people who are young, poor, of color, and lacking in social support that could help them get out of the hell-holes they live in.  most criminal defendants are very clearly not part of the ruling class.

what i have a lot of trouble with is the idea that paris hilton has somehow been unfairly hung out to dry.  the fact that some celebrity guys have gotten away with worse does not make her a poster child for feminism.  poster child for wretched excesses of the ruling class, maybe.

this woman was raised on a pedestal; she clearly believes that her people should just make annoyances [like the consequences of her conduct] go away.  she easily had the means to avoid problems -- drivers, alarm clocks, listening to her lawyers.  it&#039;s not like she had to drive her fancy car at twice the speed limit in order to save her sainted mother&#039;s life in an emergency.  

you want to create more fairness in the world?  giving more poor women half a chance to support themselves and their families legally would help.  support education.  support reproductive rights.  support humans who are struggling in the hundreds of ways they do to survive.  but pul-eeze, don&#039;t waste precious energy crying for paris hilton.  45 days of bad food and no internet access is not gonna kill her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jamyr &#8212; look, you have a point about the criminal justice system often being patriarchy in action.  [if i'm interpreting your larger point correctly.]  the system is *supposed* to be about public protection, but in practice, that turns out to be locking up people who are young, poor, of color, and lacking in social support that could help them get out of the hell-holes they live in.  most criminal defendants are very clearly not part of the ruling class.</p>
<p>what i have a lot of trouble with is the idea that paris hilton has somehow been unfairly hung out to dry.  the fact that some celebrity guys have gotten away with worse does not make her a poster child for feminism.  poster child for wretched excesses of the ruling class, maybe.</p>
<p>this woman was raised on a pedestal; she clearly believes that her people should just make annoyances [like the consequences of her conduct] go away.  she easily had the means to avoid problems &#8212; drivers, alarm clocks, listening to her lawyers.  it&#8217;s not like she had to drive her fancy car at twice the speed limit in order to save her sainted mother&#8217;s life in an emergency.  </p>
<p>you want to create more fairness in the world?  giving more poor women half a chance to support themselves and their families legally would help.  support education.  support reproductive rights.  support humans who are struggling in the hundreds of ways they do to survive.  but pul-eeze, don&#8217;t waste precious energy crying for paris hilton.  45 days of bad food and no internet access is not gonna kill her.</p>
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