Comments on: Ms Gag http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:05:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Twisty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62210 Twisty Tue, 15 May 2007 20:59:42 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62210 "A good sex life is a vital ingredient of a good relationship" Well, it's a vital ingredient of a relationship based on sex, anyway. “A good sex life is a vital ingredient of a good relationship”

Well, it’s a vital ingredient of a relationship based on sex, anyway.

]]> By: Louise http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62160 Louise Tue, 15 May 2007 19:44:16 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62160 Alex, a lot of women don't like to initiate sex. I never initiate, but I like it when my husband does. You could try asking your girlfriend if there is anything you can do that she would like better than the things you are already doing, maybe she has some desires she hasn't revealed to you? But her unethusiastic response suggests that she just isn't that into you. Perhaps you would be better off with a girl who was keener on you? A good sex life is a vital ingredient of a good relationship. A woman who is really interested in you would respond with more enthusiasm to your advances. You can try talking it over with her and seeing how she feels, but my impression is that she just doesn't fancy you all that much. Louise Alex, a lot of women don’t like to initiate sex. I never initiate, but I like it when my husband does. You could try asking your girlfriend if there is anything you can do that she would like better than the things you are already doing, maybe she has some desires she hasn’t revealed to you? But her unethusiastic response suggests that she just isn’t that into you. Perhaps you would be better off with a girl who was keener on you? A good sex life is a vital ingredient of a good relationship. A woman who is really interested in you would respond with more enthusiasm to your advances. You can try talking it over with her and seeing how she feels, but my impression is that she just doesn’t fancy you all that much.

Louise

]]> By: Twisty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62055 Twisty Tue, 15 May 2007 14:03:57 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62055 "digital anthropology fantasy" is my next band name. “digital anthropology fantasy” is my next band name.

]]> By: Trasi http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62048 Trasi Tue, 15 May 2007 13:11:39 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62048 I don't have the time to read the entire message stream, and with 198 comments, I'm sure SOMEONE out there probably already noted what seems completely obvious to me. WHY is this girl with Alex? There are plenty of you who can tell me why Alex is a girlfriend-raping asshole, or at least THAT he's an asshole. But what about this girlfriend? What self-respecting woman in her right mind stays with a guy in a "dating" relationship when her response to his sexual advances isn't just "stop it!" but mixed with a hefty dose of disgust? If she's just wanting to save herself for marriage, I can FULLY respect that, and yet I do not hear any of that in Alex's email. Alex may even really, genuinely like this girl, hence his myriad of fumbling, clueless guy efforts to try and make this work out with her. (not saying they're GOOD efforts, just that he's clearly concerned about it, which is more than a lot of guys would be, as noted by an early commenter). But it's pretty dang obvious to me she doesn't much care for him. Why doesn't she just BREAK UP with him, if she's so turned off by him in the first place? Clearly he could break this off with her, cut her loose, when it's plain it ain't workin' out. I just have to lay blame where it is due, and there's a heapload of it goin' the direction of the girl here, too. She needs to take responsibility for herself and her own happiness, and ditch this guy, and figure out what's wrong with her broken self esteem, and fix it. I don’t have the time to read the entire message stream, and with 198 comments, I’m sure SOMEONE out there probably already noted what seems completely obvious to me.
WHY is this girl with Alex? There are plenty of you who can tell me why Alex is a girlfriend-raping asshole, or at least THAT he’s an asshole. But what about this girlfriend? What self-respecting woman in her right mind stays with a guy in a “dating” relationship when her response to his sexual advances isn’t just “stop it!” but mixed with a hefty dose of disgust? If she’s just wanting to save herself for marriage, I can FULLY respect that, and yet I do not hear any of that in Alex’s email. Alex may even really, genuinely like this girl, hence his myriad of fumbling, clueless guy efforts to try and make this work out with her. (not saying they’re GOOD efforts, just that he’s clearly concerned about it, which is more than a lot of guys would be, as noted by an early commenter). But it’s pretty dang obvious to me she doesn’t much care for him. Why doesn’t she just BREAK UP with him, if she’s so turned off by him in the first place? Clearly he could break this off with her, cut her loose, when it’s plain it ain’t workin’ out. I just have to lay blame where it is due, and there’s a heapload of it goin’ the direction of the girl here, too. She needs to take responsibility for herself and her own happiness, and ditch this guy, and figure out what’s wrong with her broken self esteem, and fix it.

]]> By: CannibalFemme http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62044 CannibalFemme Tue, 15 May 2007 12:44:32 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62044 LYMC: I wholeheartedly agree on actor cons. Creepy as hell. However, I have had some fabulous times at the slash cons. Since it's just fan writers and vidders, the creep factor is much reduced. I also must join the chorus in favor of slimbing spikes. Wish I had some that shot out of my face when needed. LYMC: I wholeheartedly agree on actor cons. Creepy as hell. However, I have had some fabulous times at the slash cons. Since it’s just fan writers and vidders, the creep factor is much reduced.

I also must join the chorus in favor of slimbing spikes. Wish I had some that shot out of my face when needed.

]]> By: mearl http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62011 mearl Tue, 15 May 2007 05:36:23 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62011 And LMYC - "A woman says 'I like sex' and what they hear is 'I like being turned into degraded filth.'" Exactly. They can't imagine sex with a woman outside the confines of their struggle for control over her. And LMYC – “A woman says ‘I like sex’ and what they hear is ‘I like being turned into degraded filth.’” Exactly. They can’t imagine sex with a woman outside the confines of their struggle for control over her.

]]> By: mearl http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62009 mearl Tue, 15 May 2007 05:26:20 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62009 Bird, the comment warn't mine. I would give credit if I knew who said it, but I do recall that it was a fine, fine blamer. Probably B. Dagger. Slimbing spikes - if they are spikes which spout slime at men with rapist notions dancing like sugar plums in their heads - would be AWESOME. Bird, the comment warn’t mine. I would give credit if I knew who said it, but I do recall that it was a fine, fine blamer. Probably B. Dagger.

Slimbing spikes – if they are spikes which spout slime at men with rapist notions dancing like sugar plums in their heads – would be AWESOME.

]]> By: Cunning Allusionment? http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62005 Cunning Allusionment? Tue, 15 May 2007 04:54:59 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-62005 W.B. Reeves: I just want to remind you that being a pedantic asshole is against the rules. If you must continue arguing that you're not a creepy voyeur playing out some kind of digital anthropology fantasy please refrain from the pedantism. W.B. Reeves: I just want to remind you that being a pedantic asshole is against the rules. If you must continue arguing that you’re not a creepy voyeur playing out some kind of digital anthropology fantasy please refrain from the pedantism.

]]> By: msxochitl http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-61986 msxochitl Tue, 15 May 2007 03:12:31 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-61986 Justicewalks: "I get that compulsory heterosexuality is a patriarchal construct, not natural, bad, but is compulsory lesbianism any better?" Compulsory lesbianism? Never heard of it. Is it something like "reverse racism"? "I can’t remember exact threads, but whenever the issue of “going without” comes up, invariably, someone pipes up to say, accusatorily, “What’s all this talk of “going without” when you can have sex with women instead?” You are misrepresenting that discussion. As I recall, no one said "I'm celibate and happy." (This is actually the first time I have ever read anyone claim to be celibate and happy on this board.) What was said was something like "I don't want to go without but I have to because I can't stand men." It was in that context in which a woman suggested that if you don't want to go without sex, you don't have to. I'm sorry you mistook my comments as a critique of celibacy. That was not my intent at all. Justicewalks: “I get that compulsory heterosexuality is a patriarchal construct, not natural, bad, but is compulsory lesbianism any better?”

Compulsory lesbianism? Never heard of it. Is it something like “reverse racism”?

“I can’t remember exact threads, but whenever the issue of “going without” comes up, invariably, someone pipes up to say, accusatorily, “What’s all this talk of “going without” when you can have sex with women instead?”

You are misrepresenting that discussion. As I recall, no one said “I’m celibate and happy.” (This is actually the first time I have ever read anyone claim to be celibate and happy on this board.) What was said was something like “I don’t want to go without but I have to because I can’t stand men.” It was in that context in which a woman suggested that if you don’t want to go without sex, you don’t have to.

I’m sorry you mistook my comments as a critique of celibacy. That was not my intent at all.

]]> By: msxochitl http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-61983 msxochitl Tue, 15 May 2007 03:00:38 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/05/11/ms-gag/#comment-61983 LMYC said: "I tend to think of sexuality like I think of handedness. I’m a leftie. If I broke my left arm, I’m sure I could pick up a pen in my right and manage a few barely legible scrawls, but it’s not going to feel right, it’s not going to look very good, and I’m still going to count the days until the damned cast came off and I could do it the correct and proper way that my brain wants me to use." Not a good analogy. Unless, for some reason, really hate your left hand and your left hand hates you. Nah, the analogy doesn't work if you try to apply it to the case of women who fuck men they hate. As far as "straight hormones," and the near-impossibility for a straight woman who hates men to stop fucking men and develop romantic relationships with women instead? Well, of course, that's what the patriarchy wants us to believe. But there are some who disagree: http://web.archive.org/web/20040105072257/staffweb.lib.uiowa.edu/ktonella/oob/features/Biology.htm http://www.queerbychoice.com/gaygenelinks.html LMYC said:

“I tend to think of sexuality like I think of handedness. I’m a leftie. If I broke my left arm, I’m sure I could pick up a pen in my right and manage a few barely legible scrawls, but it’s not going to feel right, it’s not going to look very good, and I’m still going to count the days until the damned cast came off and I could do it the correct and proper way that my brain wants me to use.”

Not a good analogy. Unless, for some reason, really hate your left hand and your left hand hates you. Nah, the analogy doesn’t work if you try to apply it to the case of women who fuck men they hate.

As far as “straight hormones,” and the near-impossibility for a straight woman who hates men to stop fucking men and develop romantic relationships with women instead? Well, of course, that’s what the patriarchy wants us to believe. But there are some who disagree:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040105072257/staffweb.lib.uiowa.edu/ktonella/oob/features/Biology.htm

http://www.queerbychoice.com/gaygenelinks.html

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