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		<title>By: Every Little Girl Wants To Be A Cheerleader &#124; Thus Spake Zuska</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/06/02/i-puke-on-dude-nation/#comment-170503</link>
		<dc:creator>Every Little Girl Wants To Be A Cheerleader &#124; Thus Spake Zuska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 04:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Occasionally, a hot cheerleader sneaks through and becomes a scientist. In the interests of Dude Nation, it would be good if more Hot Babe Cheerleaders became scientists and focused on Looking Hot While [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ADInnis21</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/06/02/i-puke-on-dude-nation/#comment-124009</link>
		<dc:creator>ADInnis21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t think woman hating is capitalism Henry, it&#039;s male objectification of women.  You can find it in every country of the world.  Taliban, don&#039;t recall them being capitalist.
Nigeria honor killings.  Pornification of women is worldwide, and growing by the billions each month.

Men get addicted to this porn, and they fully support it.
All men are pornographers really, but most keep their mouths and porn pictures to themselves.  They used to paste porn on women&#039;s lockers at firestations, but that&#039;s illegal.

No it is woman hating, and hatred of women achieveing and the male need to degrade women everywhere on earth.  When you do this stuff to black men, it&#039;s called racism, when you do it to women, it&#039;s called fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t think woman hating is capitalism Henry, it&#8217;s male objectification of women.  You can find it in every country of the world.  Taliban, don&#8217;t recall them being capitalist.<br />
Nigeria honor killings.  Pornification of women is worldwide, and growing by the billions each month.</p>
<p>Men get addicted to this porn, and they fully support it.<br />
All men are pornographers really, but most keep their mouths and porn pictures to themselves.  They used to paste porn on women&#8217;s lockers at firestations, but that&#8217;s illegal.</p>
<p>No it is woman hating, and hatred of women achieveing and the male need to degrade women everywhere on earth.  When you do this stuff to black men, it&#8217;s called racism, when you do it to women, it&#8217;s called fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/06/02/i-puke-on-dude-nation/#comment-123881</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the internet in general, not just this Allison Stokke cluster, is the anonymity afforded these &#039;brave men&#039; who publish this shit under the guise of first admendment responsibilty(what great Americans). 
Reporters in the bygone days of newpapers and magazines had real editors, with real names and real addresses. Even the lowly letter to the editor, put forth by the unwashed public, required a full name and city as criteria to publish.
Here is the answer, at least short term, for assholes like the freedom fighters at With Leather, the site that posted some of this Stokke material and provided the sexual commentary. Somewhere out there, available to someone who knows how to look, perhaps WHOIS.NET, or something similiar, is very public, very legal information regarding the name and address and phone number of the owner of that site. 
It is called fighting fire with fire. Utilize available public information and write, call and stop by to voice your opinion. Redefine the concept of vunverability and exposure for this gentleman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the internet in general, not just this Allison Stokke cluster, is the anonymity afforded these &#8216;brave men&#8217; who publish this shit under the guise of first admendment responsibilty(what great Americans).<br />
Reporters in the bygone days of newpapers and magazines had real editors, with real names and real addresses. Even the lowly letter to the editor, put forth by the unwashed public, required a full name and city as criteria to publish.<br />
Here is the answer, at least short term, for assholes like the freedom fighters at With Leather, the site that posted some of this Stokke material and provided the sexual commentary. Somewhere out there, available to someone who knows how to look, perhaps WHOIS.NET, or something similiar, is very public, very legal information regarding the name and address and phone number of the owner of that site.<br />
It is called fighting fire with fire. Utilize available public information and write, call and stop by to voice your opinion. Redefine the concept of vunverability and exposure for this gentleman.</p>
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		<title>By: Feminist Law Professors &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cripes Those Folks At The Yale Information Society Project Are Clueless, Or Something.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feminist Law Professors &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cripes Those Folks At The Yale Information Society Project Are Clueless, Or Something.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: Maybe they would start to &#8220;get it&#8221; if they read this? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/06/02/i-puke-on-dude-nation/#comment-81662</link>
		<dc:creator>henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blame it on capitalism

I hate to be contrary, but I think the Allison Stokke episode is less a matter of patriarchy than one of capitalism. It is in the nature of capitalism to objectifyâ€”not just women but all things. It objectifies them in the process of incorporating them into the capitalist architecture. 

All objects in the capitalist schema are producers of fluid streams of intensity that can be tapped into (consumed) by other objects to facilitate or augment their own production. The difference between the original stream and the augmented stream is known as profit. Of course, not all the profit goes to those who tap into the stream. Even if the outcome is to the benefit of the consumer, a portion is returned to the original object (cost), which may either be reinvested (capitalization) or spent (consumption).

â€˜Valueâ€™ in the capitalist system isnâ€™t an abstract moral or metaphysical notion. And it certainly isnâ€™t political. It is entirely a function of how much profit can be derived from the consumption of the original stream, and it cannot be known in advance how much profit can be derived, since this is a function of the relationship between the producer and the consumer (consummation).

In the capitalist system, we are all public toilets. Indignant feminists resent the fact that Ms. Stokkeâ€™s appearance is so much more profitable than her athletic (and myriad other) talents (or even her â€˜inherent human worthâ€™). However, it is a fact, as unfortunate as some may find it, that physical beauty is a highly valued property. It isnâ€™t a moral issue. Itâ€™s a state of affairs: people are generally more willing to consume beauty than an athletic performance. They are also more willing to consume a Hollywood production than a work of art. There is no accounting for taste.

Ms. Stokke was victimized in two ways. First, her image was consumed without her consent. Unfortunately, the provision of her â€˜likenessâ€™ is not under the same control as, say, her athletic performance. As an athlete, she could choose to restrict the flow of her performance as the conditions warrant it. She could simply choose not to participate. She cannot similarly choose not to appear beautiful. It would seem an easy matter to assert a copyright over oneâ€™s own likeness (in the same way that Disney has extended its copyright over the likeness of Mickey and Minny), but the drawbacks would probably be disproportionate. For what itâ€™s worth, the male image, while less valuable, is likewise unprotected by the law. If someone felt she could derive enough value from it, she could seek to acquire unflattering images of the offensive sports blogger and post them for public ridicule.

The frequent reference to burkas is curious. The rhetorical intention, it seems, is to tie an emotionally loaded, culturally subjective disparagement of a Muslim practice with the desire to control the provision of oneâ€™s appearance. I probably shouldnâ€™t read so much into it, but I canâ€™t help but marvel at the ironies. I realize that â€˜burkaâ€™ is code for â€˜patriarchal oppressionâ€™. It is reviled in the west because it represents a restriction on the womanâ€™s right to make her appearance available to whomever she chooses. But even if the practice is a reflection of a self-serving desire by men to control the provision of â€˜theirâ€™ womenâ€™s images (something Iâ€™m not in any position to determine), the logic is impeccable. If the goal is to keep lascivious eyes away from something, you cover it up or sequester it (the latter option being equally abhorrent to many). 

But the second way in which Ms. Stokke was victimized is more to the point, I think. Even if she couldnâ€™t control the provision of her image, she should at least be paid for the value it creates. Some may remark that this amounts to a sort of involuntary prostitution, but, again, thatâ€™s the nature of the capitalist systemâ€”weâ€™re all public toilets. Even now, websites like iblamethepatriarchy.com are pimping Ms. Stokkeâ€™s story. Thereâ€™s a difference, perhaps, but not an essential one. If there is an obstacle here, it is in monetizing the value derived. Moreover, this particular victimization will probably prove to be fleeting. In some ways, Ms. Stokke has already been paid (ironically, in terms of media exposure) for her unwilling participation. Unless she has some extraordinary and unusual principles, she will have to work to avoid profiting from it (and profiting far more than she ever would from her athletic talentsâ€”even if she turned out to be the top female athlete in the world, her appearance would only magnify her value by orders of magnitude). I wouldnâ€™t imagine there is one person in a hundred (man or woman) who would turn down the opportunities opened up by a physical beauty such as Ms. Stokkeâ€™s on the basis of what she has had to endure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blame it on capitalism</p>
<p>I hate to be contrary, but I think the Allison Stokke episode is less a matter of patriarchy than one of capitalism. It is in the nature of capitalism to objectifyâ€”not just women but all things. It objectifies them in the process of incorporating them into the capitalist architecture. </p>
<p>All objects in the capitalist schema are producers of fluid streams of intensity that can be tapped into (consumed) by other objects to facilitate or augment their own production. The difference between the original stream and the augmented stream is known as profit. Of course, not all the profit goes to those who tap into the stream. Even if the outcome is to the benefit of the consumer, a portion is returned to the original object (cost), which may either be reinvested (capitalization) or spent (consumption).</p>
<p>â€˜Valueâ€™ in the capitalist system isnâ€™t an abstract moral or metaphysical notion. And it certainly isnâ€™t political. It is entirely a function of how much profit can be derived from the consumption of the original stream, and it cannot be known in advance how much profit can be derived, since this is a function of the relationship between the producer and the consumer (consummation).</p>
<p>In the capitalist system, we are all public toilets. Indignant feminists resent the fact that Ms. Stokkeâ€™s appearance is so much more profitable than her athletic (and myriad other) talents (or even her â€˜inherent human worthâ€™). However, it is a fact, as unfortunate as some may find it, that physical beauty is a highly valued property. It isnâ€™t a moral issue. Itâ€™s a state of affairs: people are generally more willing to consume beauty than an athletic performance. They are also more willing to consume a Hollywood production than a work of art. There is no accounting for taste.</p>
<p>Ms. Stokke was victimized in two ways. First, her image was consumed without her consent. Unfortunately, the provision of her â€˜likenessâ€™ is not under the same control as, say, her athletic performance. As an athlete, she could choose to restrict the flow of her performance as the conditions warrant it. She could simply choose not to participate. She cannot similarly choose not to appear beautiful. It would seem an easy matter to assert a copyright over oneâ€™s own likeness (in the same way that Disney has extended its copyright over the likeness of Mickey and Minny), but the drawbacks would probably be disproportionate. For what itâ€™s worth, the male image, while less valuable, is likewise unprotected by the law. If someone felt she could derive enough value from it, she could seek to acquire unflattering images of the offensive sports blogger and post them for public ridicule.</p>
<p>The frequent reference to burkas is curious. The rhetorical intention, it seems, is to tie an emotionally loaded, culturally subjective disparagement of a Muslim practice with the desire to control the provision of oneâ€™s appearance. I probably shouldnâ€™t read so much into it, but I canâ€™t help but marvel at the ironies. I realize that â€˜burkaâ€™ is code for â€˜patriarchal oppressionâ€™. It is reviled in the west because it represents a restriction on the womanâ€™s right to make her appearance available to whomever she chooses. But even if the practice is a reflection of a self-serving desire by men to control the provision of â€˜theirâ€™ womenâ€™s images (something Iâ€™m not in any position to determine), the logic is impeccable. If the goal is to keep lascivious eyes away from something, you cover it up or sequester it (the latter option being equally abhorrent to many). </p>
<p>But the second way in which Ms. Stokke was victimized is more to the point, I think. Even if she couldnâ€™t control the provision of her image, she should at least be paid for the value it creates. Some may remark that this amounts to a sort of involuntary prostitution, but, again, thatâ€™s the nature of the capitalist systemâ€”weâ€™re all public toilets. Even now, websites like iblamethepatriarchy.com are pimping Ms. Stokkeâ€™s story. Thereâ€™s a difference, perhaps, but not an essential one. If there is an obstacle here, it is in monetizing the value derived. Moreover, this particular victimization will probably prove to be fleeting. In some ways, Ms. Stokke has already been paid (ironically, in terms of media exposure) for her unwilling participation. Unless she has some extraordinary and unusual principles, she will have to work to avoid profiting from it (and profiting far more than she ever would from her athletic talentsâ€”even if she turned out to be the top female athlete in the world, her appearance would only magnify her value by orders of magnitude). I wouldnâ€™t imagine there is one person in a hundred (man or woman) who would turn down the opportunities opened up by a physical beauty such as Ms. Stokkeâ€™s on the basis of what she has had to endure.</p>
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		<title>By: What would it take for me to look good every day? &#171; Dis Organized</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/06/02/i-puke-on-dude-nation/#comment-75025</link>
		<dc:creator>What would it take for me to look good every day? &#171; Dis Organized</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m back to rolling out of bed, taking a shower, putting on jeans &amp; t-shirt, and off to do my mom stuff. I don&#8217;t want to manicure and dress for the dude nation, and until I can lose that as the measure, I&#8217;ll continue to be slob.     Posted by Johnna Filed in Uncategorized [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m back to rolling out of bed, taking a shower, putting on jeans &amp; t-shirt, and off to do my mom stuff. I don&#8217;t want to manicure and dress for the dude nation, and until I can lose that as the measure, I&#8217;ll continue to be slob.     Posted by Johnna Filed in Uncategorized [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bmc90</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/06/02/i-puke-on-dude-nation/#comment-71908</link>
		<dc:creator>bmc90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ladies, if you have hiring authority, or admit people to colleges or the like, make it clear to all within range of your voice and keyboard, that when you discover that some putz who needs a favor from you did something like this, that you will promptly lose his resume, application, what have you.  That&#039;s what happened to the idiot who ran AutoAdmit.  He would not take down clearly defamatory posts when asked, and eventually, the law firm he had an offer from rescinded it.  I mean, if you know you are going to have Don Imus on your hands or worse, why go there as an employer?  Google works in mysterious ways, and a few choice career disasters for these lovelies is perhaps the best way to get them to curb their behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladies, if you have hiring authority, or admit people to colleges or the like, make it clear to all within range of your voice and keyboard, that when you discover that some putz who needs a favor from you did something like this, that you will promptly lose his resume, application, what have you.  That&#8217;s what happened to the idiot who ran AutoAdmit.  He would not take down clearly defamatory posts when asked, and eventually, the law firm he had an offer from rescinded it.  I mean, if you know you are going to have Don Imus on your hands or worse, why go there as an employer?  Google works in mysterious ways, and a few choice career disasters for these lovelies is perhaps the best way to get them to curb their behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: With Leather Violates Young Pole Volter and Twisty Pukes on With Leather &#171; The Blog and the Bullet</title>
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		<dc:creator>With Leather Violates Young Pole Volter and Twisty Pukes on With Leather &#171; The Blog and the Bullet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by Jack Stephens on June 14th, 2007  Twisty, from I Blame the Patriarchy, blogs on the controversy surrounding the guy sports blog With Leather: The other day WaPo reported that some knob sports blogger, an excrescence who by definition exalts the basest impulses of his species, had posted a photograph of an obscure record-breaking high school pole vaulter. The photo showed the woman at a meet, adjusting her ponytail. The knob sports blogger titled the blog entry â€œPole vaulting is sexy, barely legal.â€ He is a dude, so naturally he felt inclined to add â€œHubba hubba and other grunting soundsâ€ to his jokey â€˜analysisâ€™ of her athleticism. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted by Jack Stephens on June 14th, 2007  Twisty, from I Blame the Patriarchy, blogs on the controversy surrounding the guy sports blog With Leather: The other day WaPo reported that some knob sports blogger, an excrescence who by definition exalts the basest impulses of his species, had posted a photograph of an obscure record-breaking high school pole vaulter. The photo showed the woman at a meet, adjusting her ponytail. The knob sports blogger titled the blog entry â€œPole vaulting is sexy, barely legal.â€ He is a dude, so naturally he felt inclined to add â€œHubba hubba and other grunting soundsâ€ to his jokey â€˜analysisâ€™ of her athleticism. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vera Venom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vera Venom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was that a pathetic and terrible attempt at sarcasm, &quot;sammy&quot;, or are you dumb enough to think your opinion matters to us and that any of that is actually insulting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was that a pathetic and terrible attempt at sarcasm, &#8220;sammy&#8221;, or are you dumb enough to think your opinion matters to us and that any of that is actually insulting?</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2007/06/02/i-puke-on-dude-nation/#comment-71004</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 05:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad to see the women on here are breaking down the stereotypes of irrational over reaction. Well done.

Remember if you feel bad about being fat it is not your fault. Most people are fat according to CNN, so most of us should feel bad? WTF?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad to see the women on here are breaking down the stereotypes of irrational over reaction. Well done.</p>
<p>Remember if you feel bad about being fat it is not your fault. Most people are fat according to CNN, so most of us should feel bad? WTF?!</p>
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