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	<title>Comments on: Bacon, I bid you farewell</title>
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		<title>By: Hey Now</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/02/18/bacon-i-bid-you-farewell/#comment-175352</link>
		<dc:creator>Hey Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 16:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really understand why someone would go vegetarian but not vegan. Egg  and milk production is far worse than meat production. And I don&#039;t really understand the argument for &quot;humane killing.&quot; Perhaps there could be such a thing as &quot;humane child abuse?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really understand why someone would go vegetarian but not vegan. Egg  and milk production is far worse than meat production. And I don&#8217;t really understand the argument for &#8220;humane killing.&#8221; Perhaps there could be such a thing as &#8220;humane child abuse?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Imaginary</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/02/18/bacon-i-bid-you-farewell/#comment-158087</link>
		<dc:creator>Imaginary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really understand the argument for &quot;humane killing&quot; for meat. Either it&#039;s okay to treat them as objects and use them for your convenience and momentary pleasure, or it&#039;s not. 

Nor do I understand feminist meat-eaters feeling all upset when vegans/vegetarians criticize their meals. It&#039;s not a right to kill an animal for your pleasure, just as it isn&#039;t a right to watch porn of a girl forced into sexual slavery. One persun abstaining from the horror of these industries but keeping their mouth shut isn&#039;t going to make the problems go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really understand the argument for &#8220;humane killing&#8221; for meat. Either it&#8217;s okay to treat them as objects and use them for your convenience and momentary pleasure, or it&#8217;s not. </p>
<p>Nor do I understand feminist meat-eaters feeling all upset when vegans/vegetarians criticize their meals. It&#8217;s not a right to kill an animal for your pleasure, just as it isn&#8217;t a right to watch porn of a girl forced into sexual slavery. One persun abstaining from the horror of these industries but keeping their mouth shut isn&#8217;t going to make the problems go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Uppity</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/02/18/bacon-i-bid-you-farewell/#comment-154566</link>
		<dc:creator>Uppity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a subject near and dear to my heart, the ethics of raising animals for food, provoking me to comment despite the date on the post. Hey, if Jill hadn&#039;t linked it (twice) I wouldn&#039;t have seen it at all.

I happen to be One of Those who suffer from poor health when living a vegetarian lifestyle. It&#039;s not just the anemia, it isn&#039;t something that can be managed with the right supplements, food is complex! So, in effort to eat as ethically as I can, striving to avoid the global megameatyocracy, I moved to a farm so I could raise my own animals. Here is what I&#039;ve learned:

- Here in the North, where the heating season is longer than the growing season, we can&#039;t grow soybeans or many other popular legumes and nuts. Eating local (which is another priority altogether), makes eating vegan a damn hard proposition. The resources we do have available are well suited and efficiently used to raise animals.
- Animals are not people. They deserve proper housing, nutrition and access to exercise and socialization because they are living things of course. They do not think about the future or fear their deaths, on the other hand. 
- Animals choose safety over freedom. Ready buckets full of grain are much more attractive than scrounging. Occasionally it happens that someone breaks free, choosing to be eaten by bears, coyotes or eagles instead of me, but as a whole, domestic animals are content with domesticity.
- On this farm, meat animals are the by-product of breeding for milk and eggs. Female animals are far more useful providing protein rich food in other ways. Because babies come in both kinds, something has to happen to the males, which leads me to -  
- Individual animals may not want to be butchered, but, the flock or herd as a whole is MUCH happier to have excess males removed. Too many males in a population only causes hardship and stress, if you can imagine. Only the best males are kept for breeding, the rest are eaten (or castrated) to the general relief of everyone. This is what led me to finally take the first step and butcher a chicken. It became clear that it was the most humane thing to do. 
- The best way for the animal to end its life is usually the hardest on the person and vice versa, what&#039;s easy on the person is hardest on the animal. Handling this responsibility is the difficult part. 


cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a subject near and dear to my heart, the ethics of raising animals for food, provoking me to comment despite the date on the post. Hey, if Jill hadn&#8217;t linked it (twice) I wouldn&#8217;t have seen it at all.</p>
<p>I happen to be One of Those who suffer from poor health when living a vegetarian lifestyle. It&#8217;s not just the anemia, it isn&#8217;t something that can be managed with the right supplements, food is complex! So, in effort to eat as ethically as I can, striving to avoid the global megameatyocracy, I moved to a farm so I could raise my own animals. Here is what I&#8217;ve learned:</p>
<p>- Here in the North, where the heating season is longer than the growing season, we can&#8217;t grow soybeans or many other popular legumes and nuts. Eating local (which is another priority altogether), makes eating vegan a damn hard proposition. The resources we do have available are well suited and efficiently used to raise animals.<br />
- Animals are not people. They deserve proper housing, nutrition and access to exercise and socialization because they are living things of course. They do not think about the future or fear their deaths, on the other hand.<br />
- Animals choose safety over freedom. Ready buckets full of grain are much more attractive than scrounging. Occasionally it happens that someone breaks free, choosing to be eaten by bears, coyotes or eagles instead of me, but as a whole, domestic animals are content with domesticity.<br />
- On this farm, meat animals are the by-product of breeding for milk and eggs. Female animals are far more useful providing protein rich food in other ways. Because babies come in both kinds, something has to happen to the males, which leads me to &#8211;<br />
- Individual animals may not want to be butchered, but, the flock or herd as a whole is MUCH happier to have excess males removed. Too many males in a population only causes hardship and stress, if you can imagine. Only the best males are kept for breeding, the rest are eaten (or castrated) to the general relief of everyone. This is what led me to finally take the first step and butcher a chicken. It became clear that it was the most humane thing to do.<br />
- The best way for the animal to end its life is usually the hardest on the person and vice versa, what&#8217;s easy on the person is hardest on the animal. Handling this responsibility is the difficult part. </p>
<p>cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Danger and slapstick on Savage Death Island! at I Blame The Patriarchy</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/02/18/bacon-i-bid-you-farewell/#comment-154522</link>
		<dc:creator>Danger and slapstick on Savage Death Island! at I Blame The Patriarchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] carnivorosity in general and foie gras in particular, and, having adjusted my views &#8212; in a Very Special farewell-to-bacon episode &#8212; to align more locksteppedly with radical feminist food doctrine, felt unjustly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] carnivorosity in general and foie gras in particular, and, having adjusted my views &#8212; in a Very Special farewell-to-bacon episode &#8212; to align more locksteppedly with radical feminist food doctrine, felt unjustly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Meat is murder! Women are meat! &#171; Rage Against the Man-chine</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/02/18/bacon-i-bid-you-farewell/#comment-123462</link>
		<dc:creator>Meat is murder! Women are meat! &#171; Rage Against the Man-chine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] motherfuckers some good; somebody needs to point out to this dickwad that there is a bit of an ideological conflict between veganism and the human meat trade. I don&#8217;t know how convinced I am that I need to be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] motherfuckers some good; somebody needs to point out to this dickwad that there is a bit of an ideological conflict between veganism and the human meat trade. I don&#8217;t know how convinced I am that I need to be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: I'm not a vegan anymore, I guess.</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/02/18/bacon-i-bid-you-farewell/#comment-114054</link>
		<dc:creator>I'm not a vegan anymore, I guess.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] everyone&#8217;s favorite spinster aunt Twisty has  jumped back on the vegan bandwagon, as I almost simultaneously backslid into omnivoria. That&#8217;s right, folks, I&#8217;ve been [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] everyone&#8217;s favorite spinster aunt Twisty has  jumped back on the vegan bandwagon, as I almost simultaneously backslid into omnivoria. That&#8217;s right, folks, I&#8217;ve been [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sinatra</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/02/18/bacon-i-bid-you-farewell/#comment-111416</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinatra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh sure, I may be a good month and a half late, but have to say:

if you&#039;re looking for an excellent soy-free cookbook, check out Dino Sarma&#039;s &quot;The Alternative Vegan&quot;.

http://www.amazon.com/Uncheese-Cookbook-Creating-Dairy-Free-Substitutes/dp/0913990426

it&#039;s all veggies and good stuff, no over-processed fake meats or soy products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh sure, I may be a good month and a half late, but have to say:</p>
<p>if you&#8217;re looking for an excellent soy-free cookbook, check out Dino Sarma&#8217;s &#8220;The Alternative Vegan&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Uncheese-Cookbook-Creating-Dairy-Free-Substitutes/dp/0913990426" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Uncheese-Cookbook-Creating-Dairy-Free-Substitutes/dp/0913990426</a></p>
<p>it&#8217;s all veggies and good stuff, no over-processed fake meats or soy products.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria Marinelli</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/02/18/bacon-i-bid-you-farewell/#comment-109422</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria Marinelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the openness to new information and the willingness to stand corrected when appropriate is at least as revolutionary a quality as one&#039;s capacity to stand one&#039;s ground. 

I had not thought it possible that I could love this blog more than I already did. I stand corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the openness to new information and the willingness to stand corrected when appropriate is at least as revolutionary a quality as one&#8217;s capacity to stand one&#8217;s ground. </p>
<p>I had not thought it possible that I could love this blog more than I already did. I stand corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: ginmar</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/02/18/bacon-i-bid-you-farewell/#comment-108838</link>
		<dc:creator>ginmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m going to get in my non-existant car and spend the gas to go to the other side of town to get to a health food store and buy expensive vegan food. Oh, wait, don&#039;t have a car. Also have agoraphobia. That means a bus ride. That means the whole morning is shot, assuming I can get out the door. Oh, yeah, and the health food store is expensive. Or I can take a cab to the shitty grocery store that&#039;s here in the hood. 

 I&#039;m not making excuses for what I eat and why, but I do think there&#039;s unexplored class issues here. I don&#039;t have kids. What if I did? Talk about fun, taking kids on a long bus trip, both ways. Or there&#039;s cab fare. Or there&#039;s being disabled. Basic groceries are out of range for poor people. Health food might as well be on the moon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m going to get in my non-existant car and spend the gas to go to the other side of town to get to a health food store and buy expensive vegan food. Oh, wait, don&#8217;t have a car. Also have agoraphobia. That means a bus ride. That means the whole morning is shot, assuming I can get out the door. Oh, yeah, and the health food store is expensive. Or I can take a cab to the shitty grocery store that&#8217;s here in the hood. </p>
<p> I&#8217;m not making excuses for what I eat and why, but I do think there&#8217;s unexplored class issues here. I don&#8217;t have kids. What if I did? Talk about fun, taking kids on a long bus trip, both ways. Or there&#8217;s cab fare. Or there&#8217;s being disabled. Basic groceries are out of range for poor people. Health food might as well be on the moon.</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary Rettig / The Lifelong Activist</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/02/18/bacon-i-bid-you-farewell/#comment-108570</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary Rettig / The Lifelong Activist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Twisty - I&#039;m late to the game, but add me to the ranks of the thrilled!  Your coming over to veganism is simply wonderful - for you, the animals and the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Twisty &#8211; I&#8217;m late to the game, but add me to the ranks of the thrilled!  Your coming over to veganism is simply wonderful &#8211; for you, the animals and the planet.</p>
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