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	<title>Comments on: Spinster weighs in on Spitzer</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: If parents can stop it, why don&#8217;t they? &#171; blue milk</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-121141</link>
		<author>If parents can stop it, why don&#8217;t they? &#171; blue milk</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as Machiavellian material girls is rarely scrutinised for the message it really is, which is that second class citizens in a patriarchal world are forced to trade sex for everything else. Suddenly imposed on a landscape of very young girls many were snapped awake by this message and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] as Machiavellian material girls is rarely scrutinised for the message it really is, which is that second class citizens in a patriarchal world are forced to trade sex for everything else. Suddenly imposed on a landscape of very young girls many were snapped awake by this message and [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Spinster on Spitzer&#8230; &#171; Jem&#8217;s Lair</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-119742</link>
		<author>Spinster on Spitzer&#8230; &#171; Jem&#8217;s Lair</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-119742</guid>
		<description>[...] Spinster on&#160;Spitzer&#8230;  Because I think you should all go read this post from the main patriarchy blamer. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Spinster on&nbsp;Spitzer&#8230;  Because I think you should all go read this post from the main patriarchy blamer. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: A Call Girl</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-112293</link>
		<author>A Call Girl</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-112293</guid>
		<description>Totally agree! I don't care about Spitzer, but I felt sorry that "Kristen" got outed. Then I was astonished at the fact that she could make tons of money from cheesecake magazine spreads and telling (selling) her story. I think I can speak for most call girls that being outed certainly wouldn't make me a millionaire. Instead, if my friends, family, neighbors, ex-boyfriends, and co-workers, etc. ever found out I was a call girl it would be devastating. Not to mention clients finding my blog and wanting to book a session with me, especially since I write so much against their "hobby." Gives me chills.... Certainly "Kristen" has had to deal with a lot of this kind of humiliation, in spite of the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree! I don&#8217;t care about Spitzer, but I felt sorry that &#8220;Kristen&#8221; got outed. Then I was astonished at the fact that she could make tons of money from cheesecake magazine spreads and telling (selling) her story. I think I can speak for most call girls that being outed certainly wouldn&#8217;t make me a millionaire. Instead, if my friends, family, neighbors, ex-boyfriends, and co-workers, etc. ever found out I was a call girl it would be devastating. Not to mention clients finding my blog and wanting to book a session with me, especially since I write so much against their &#8220;hobby.&#8221; Gives me chills&#8230;. Certainly &#8220;Kristen&#8221; has had to deal with a lot of this kind of humiliation, in spite of the money.</p>
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		<title>By: mearl</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-110060</link>
		<author>mearl</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-110060</guid>
		<description>I unequivocally blame the Johns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I unequivocally blame the Johns.</p>
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		<title>By: slade</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-110055</link>
		<author>slade</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-110055</guid>
		<description>Kick some Spitzer ass, Spinster Aunt!  

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kick some Spitzer ass, Spinster Aunt!  </p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: panoptical</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-110046</link>
		<author>panoptical</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-110046</guid>
		<description>I can't help but noticing all the talk about Cheez-Its on this blog, and I just want to say, what about the Cheese Nips?  Cheese Nips get eaten too.  I mean, shouldn't we be talking about all cheese-related snacks?  Dear God!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but noticing all the talk about Cheez-Its on this blog, and I just want to say, what about the Cheese Nips?  Cheese Nips get eaten too.  I mean, shouldn&#8217;t we be talking about all cheese-related snacks?  Dear God!</p>
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		<title>By: If It Came Out Of Your Ass, It&#8217;s Probably Shit : Elaine Vigneault</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-109979</link>
		<author>If It Came Out Of Your Ass, It&#8217;s Probably Shit : Elaine Vigneault</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-109979</guid>
		<description>[...] work, you&#8217;re anti-sex work. Just say it. Claim your ideas, Amanda. Be proud of it. Take the Twisty approach: &#8220;[I]n a patriarchy, all women belong to the sex class, and are defined in terms of men. Men, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] work, you&#8217;re anti-sex work. Just say it. Claim your ideas, Amanda. Be proud of it. Take the Twisty approach: &#8220;[I]n a patriarchy, all women belong to the sex class, and are defined in terms of men. Men, [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Atkins</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-109963</link>
		<author>Linda Atkins</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something rings alarmingly false here:  the mention of eating a couple of Cheez-Its.  Is there actually such a thing as eating only a couple of Cheez-Its once one has taken the trouble to thrust one's hand into the box (or, if neurotic about grease on one's fingers, poured them into a bowl and picked up a spoon)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something rings alarmingly false here:  the mention of eating a couple of Cheez-Its.  Is there actually such a thing as eating only a couple of Cheez-Its once one has taken the trouble to thrust one&#8217;s hand into the box (or, if neurotic about grease on one&#8217;s fingers, poured them into a bowl and picked up a spoon)?</p>
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		<title>By: bigbalagan</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-109959</link>
		<author>bigbalagan</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've missed you, Twisty.  I don't know anything about your father, obviously, but losing an abusive jerk of a father as my partner just has is a very complicated kind of relief...

My primary reaction to l'affaire Spitzer, as well as the non-stop circus accompanying it (including the now iconic and so-suggestive chopper monitor of his ride downtown in his SUV last week) has been a deep sense of shame as a man.  We are truly a blight on the planet and all its denizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve missed you, Twisty.  I don&#8217;t know anything about your father, obviously, but losing an abusive jerk of a father as my partner just has is a very complicated kind of relief&#8230;</p>
<p>My primary reaction to l&#8217;affaire Spitzer, as well as the non-stop circus accompanying it (including the now iconic and so-suggestive chopper monitor of his ride downtown in his SUV last week) has been a deep sense of shame as a man.  We are truly a blight on the planet and all its denizens.</p>
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		<title>By: panoptical</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-109953</link>
		<author>panoptical</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/14/spinster-weighs-in-on-spitzer/#comment-109953</guid>
		<description>@Linden,

I say "one man, one woman" because it's the rhetoric that George Bush and his anti-gay-marriage jerks like to shove down our throats all the time.  I buy your argument that this is disingenuous to the extent that these people also have women (or young boys) on the side.

It seems we agree that prostitution is illegal so that women can be exploited - that's what I've been getting at, although I may not have expressed it well.  This doesn't mean that making prostitution legal would end that exploitation - it would just take a different form.  That's why I'm for resisting the underlying system of coercion and exploitation.

We may have had different experiences with the sex positive movement.  By bringing up the marginalized groups I mentioned, I mean to provide a contrast to the pole dancer that you refer to.  I don't think there are too many people - men, or women - who find pole dancing particularly erotic.  What the sexual subcultures do is allow people to express their own sexuality in a sex-positive way instead of subscribing to the same homogenized view of sex that is, as you say, defined by men of privilege.

Finally, I'd like to draw attention to the distinction you draw between the caring people in the polyamory subculture and the scourge upon women that multiple marriages constitutes.  I think this illustrates that there is a possibility for a sex-positive culture to develop in a way that is in stark contrast to the exploitation of women in traditional culture.  Sure, the polyamory culture is small, and new, but I think we're gaining ground as more and more people begin so see a viable alternative to traditional, patriarchal modes of sexual expression and exploitation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Linden,</p>
<p>I say &#8220;one man, one woman&#8221; because it&#8217;s the rhetoric that George Bush and his anti-gay-marriage jerks like to shove down our throats all the time.  I buy your argument that this is disingenuous to the extent that these people also have women (or young boys) on the side.</p>
<p>It seems we agree that prostitution is illegal so that women can be exploited - that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been getting at, although I may not have expressed it well.  This doesn&#8217;t mean that making prostitution legal would end that exploitation - it would just take a different form.  That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m for resisting the underlying system of coercion and exploitation.</p>
<p>We may have had different experiences with the sex positive movement.  By bringing up the marginalized groups I mentioned, I mean to provide a contrast to the pole dancer that you refer to.  I don&#8217;t think there are too many people - men, or women - who find pole dancing particularly erotic.  What the sexual subcultures do is allow people to express their own sexuality in a sex-positive way instead of subscribing to the same homogenized view of sex that is, as you say, defined by men of privilege.</p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;d like to draw attention to the distinction you draw between the caring people in the polyamory subculture and the scourge upon women that multiple marriages constitutes.  I think this illustrates that there is a possibility for a sex-positive culture to develop in a way that is in stark contrast to the exploitation of women in traditional culture.  Sure, the polyamory culture is small, and new, but I think we&#8217;re gaining ground as more and more people begin so see a viable alternative to traditional, patriarchal modes of sexual expression and exploitation.</p>
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