The REAL parties (sorry but I’m not having any fun at these “parties”) are the Bottom Up Barebellied Sneeches and the Top Down Star-Bellied Sneeches. However, even the individual/collective or freedom/slavery or release/control or autonomy/authoritarianism dichotomies are simplistic and (by definition) false.

For intance, “Progressive” and “Elitist” shouldn’t (in theory) coexist exist in the same person, but they do: Every progressive I’ve EVER met has been an elitist snob, myself included, regardless of personal income. That we deign to know what’s “best” for the “little people” or “humanity” or women or children or the “third world” or what the F*CK? Somebody just SHOOT me please, before I help again.

At this time in my life I see nothing more insidious than false populism, expecially that of the Hillary-Bots who are ready and willing to kneecap their way into the White House. Perhaps this is because THIS is going to be how America is going to be duped THIS time as the so-called “opposition” takes over the government. Fascism is NOT “rightwing” or “leftwing.” Vultures use TWO wings to fly.

This photo says it all:

http://capitalismvscommunism.ytmnd.com/

How interesting. Divide and conquer, Hegelian Theory at work, STILL WORKS. People still think there is a difference between an elite in the Democratic party and an elite in the Republican Party (groan).

I’m not confused as to why Hillary would be so deeply involved with rightwing religious control freaks, because I got over the lie of the False Opposite years ago (it was Wicca and a strong whiff of coffee that did it, truth be told). All this frothing at the mouth about “GOD” is self-referential. Their truths are twisted up, upside down and backwards (in fact it’s the definition of Satanic). These people treat Orwell’s 1984 as an instruction manual rather than the cautionary tale that it was meant to be.

Coffee, anyone?

At least the lame-stream-media is fin al ly reporting on this evil bunch:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_steve_br_080326_msnbc_opens_the_door.htm

“Shortly before 2 p.m. Eastern today, Andrea Mitchell interviewed Joshua Green of The Atlantic regarding Hillary Clinton’s participation in The Fellowship (a/k/a The Family).”

Yet, she has the nerve to bash Obama’s gaudbag. Which is worse, gaud damn America or gaud damn everybody on Earth who is not one of the New Chosen People? Christ on a stick.

By the 60s, religion was pretty much fizzling. Funny how many of the boys have found gaud in the last 40 years, about the same time women told them fish don’t need bicycles.

Cock the patriarchy!

“Feminist Street Cred” – where is this feminist street anyway? How long have we been told to set aside our principles, our issues, for the greater good? Every damn election? Enough.

I figure saving a couple million women’s and children’s lives is more REAL, more beneficial, more walk-my-talk than voting for someone who theoretically OUGHT to be in my camp but isn’t. Their voting records are what’s important to me.

Another thing: These people are package deals. Look at their advisors: What are they about? Are they nationalists or globalists? Progressives, neocons, or classical conservatives? Who’s donating to their campaigns? Where are their priorities and loyalties? Who is the press slobbering over? Who gets blackballed by the media, and who gets the free publicity?

(Hint: If the corporatist press loves him/her, RUN!)

I don’t even watch the primaries anymore. Pretty is as pretty does, so the saying goes; “Ye shall know them by their fruits.”

That’s right. PP made a *compromise* so that Obama could cover his butt. And he wanted to confirm Roberts and didn’t want to oppose him “simply for ideological reasons”. Let me remind you what those silly, unimportant ideological reasons are – basically they are women’s reproductive rights that Roberts is opposed to, anti-discrimination laws that Roberts wants to gut, and the minimal legal protection that the little people have against corporate/state exploitation that Roberts wants to do away with. The only reason Obama voted “no” finally was to save himself a future presidential bid, not because he thought women’s rights are important.

http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/?p=845

As for the Iraq war, Obama has voted for funding the Iraq war and his plan for getting out of Iraq is no better than Clinton’s. In fact, according to NYT, Clinton has a much better thought out plan for leaving Iraq (and NYT is not some uncritical fan of Clinton).

He most certainly has not been against the war– he’s voted for every god awful funding bill Bush pushed into the Senate. Conveniently for him, he wasn’t in the Senate when the Authorization bill came up.

Peanut Butter, I can’t disagree with you enough when you say Clinton has been more negative than Obama. Frankly, they’ve both been pretty negative but, IMO, Obama has been worse. The difference is that Obama’s been enjoying a free ride by virtually all the news networks and by the internet boyz, while any gaffe by the Clintons makes for days and days of fun filled, HRC bashing talking points.

RP, that’s simply not true. Obama approached PP; they did not approach him.

“There they forge “relationships” beyond the din of vox populi (the Family’s leaders consider democracy a manifestation of ungodly pride) and “throw away religion” in favor of the truths of the Family. Declaring God’s covenant with the Jews broken, the group’s core members call themselves “the new chosen.”

(etc. etc.)

Three women from Potomac Point, an “Ivanwald for girls” across the road from The Cedars, came to help serve. They wore red lipstick and long skirts (makeup and “feminine” attire were required) and had, after several months of cleaning and serving in The Cedars while the brothers worked outside, become quite unimpressed by the high-powered clientele. “Girls don’t sit in on the breakfasts,” one of them told me, though she said that none of them minded because it was “just politics.”

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I feel as if I contracted cooties from reading this article:

“You guys,” David said, “are here to learn how to rule the world.”

Goddess HELP US This is GLOBAL FAMILY????? Google it. Then Google it with “New World Order.” Google it with ROCKEFELLER or ROTHSCHILD. Google it with “First Contact (minus medicine).” Google it with Transhumanism. Then stock up on VODKA, hoard a year’s worth of food and fortify your basement, this is the big ‘un.

Thanks Mar Iguana, now I’m going to be off my feed for a week.

You mean that doing what Planned Parenthood asked pro-choice legislators to do is politically expedient? My mind is boggling. Obama has gotten 100% ratings from PP Illinois, so I think he should honestly be counted as a supporter of reproductive rights. If you can dig up an example of when he actually voted against women’s rights, I’d be interested to see it. I don’t think you can.

I believe both candidates are for women’s rights. If we get a Democrate elected in the fall, we’ll lose the global gag rule. We won’t get any more crazy pro-lifers nominated to the Supreme Court. The prospect is exciting! But hey, I’d like to end the war in Iraq, too. So I’m an Obama supporter now, and will be voting Democratic in November no matter what.

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525

Jesus plus nothing: Undercover among America’s secret theocrats

“The Family is, in its own words, an “invisible” association, though its membership has always consisted mostly of public men . . . The Family maintains a closely guarded database of its associates, but it issues no cards, collects no official dues. Members are asked not to speak about the group or its activities.”

(etc. etc.)

” . . . In the process of introducing powerful men to Jesus, the Family has managed to effect a number of behind-the-scenes acts of diplomacy . . . Such benign acts appear to be the exception to the rule. During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between . . . (see list of the world’s worst torturers, mass murderers and dictators). . . We work with power where we can,” the Family’s leader, Doug Coe, says, “build new power where we can’t.”