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	<title>Comments on: The evangelical pro-life guide to sexy feminism</title>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-12-21 &#171; Shut Up, Sit Down</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/25/the-evangelical-pro-life-guide-to-sexy-feminism/#comment-136623</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-12-21 &#171; Shut Up, Sit Down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The evangelical pro-life guide to sexy feminism &quot;You know what would make me feel like I had control over my own sexuality? Having the same rights as guys to walk around topless on the beach without feeling afraid or ogled as some kind of sex object, or being able to breast feed my baby in public without that being offensive or risque or any kind of issue at all, or being able to walk home at night alone without being groped by some drunk asshole.&quot; (tags: feminism sex) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The evangelical pro-life guide to sexy feminism &quot;You know what would make me feel like I had control over my own sexuality? Having the same rights as guys to walk around topless on the beach without feeling afraid or ogled as some kind of sex object, or being able to breast feed my baby in public without that being offensive or risque or any kind of issue at all, or being able to walk home at night alone without being groped by some drunk asshole.&quot; (tags: feminism sex) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Twisty Faster on &#8220;sex-positive&#8221; &#8220;feminism&#8221; &#171; Rage Against the Man-chine</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/25/the-evangelical-pro-life-guide-to-sexy-feminism/#comment-124235</link>
		<dc:creator>Twisty Faster on &#8220;sex-positive&#8221; &#8220;feminism&#8221; &#171; Rage Against the Man-chine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Jump to Comments Twisty has written a fairly awesome post on the concept of sexy-fun feminism. I&#8217;ve ended up arguing with a sex-pos woman in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Jump to Comments Twisty has written a fairly awesome post on the concept of sexy-fun feminism. I&#8217;ve ended up arguing with a sex-pos woman in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SEX! SEX! SEX! SEX! &#171; Rage Against the Man-chine</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/25/the-evangelical-pro-life-guide-to-sexy-feminism/#comment-124226</link>
		<dc:creator>SEX! SEX! SEX! SEX! &#171; Rage Against the Man-chine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] SEX! SEX!&#160;SEX!  Jump to Comments I&#8217;m pretty much all about sex-neutral feminism, but I&#8217;m going to take a break from taking online &#8220;how emo are you?&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] SEX! SEX!&nbsp;SEX!  Jump to Comments I&#8217;m pretty much all about sex-neutral feminism, but I&#8217;m going to take a break from taking online &#8220;how emo are you?&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: season of the bitch &#187; Slut.</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/25/the-evangelical-pro-life-guide-to-sexy-feminism/#comment-119020</link>
		<dc:creator>season of the bitch &#187; Slut.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 15:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if I didn&#8217;t choose to associate myself with the pro-sex crowd. Did some writing for Suicide Girls. Intern at BUST. Read Ren and Melissa Gira and Amber Rhea and of course Susie Bright, and many, many others. Which [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] if I didn&#8217;t choose to associate myself with the pro-sex crowd. Did some writing for Suicide Girls. Intern at BUST. Read Ren and Melissa Gira and Amber Rhea and of course Susie Bright, and many, many others. Which [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Vigneault</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/25/the-evangelical-pro-life-guide-to-sexy-feminism/#comment-118557</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Vigneault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 16:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;By the way, you can’t “do what you want despite patriarchy.” Patriarchy declines to offer you full agency, even if — particularly if — you try to take it. That’s why patriarchy is bad.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I see. So just give up. Don&#039;t do what you want. Don&#039;t challenge the patriarchy, just complain about it on a blog. Great idea. That sure is feminist of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>By the way, you can’t “do what you want despite patriarchy.” Patriarchy declines to offer you full agency, even if — particularly if — you try to take it. That’s why patriarchy is bad.</p></blockquote>
<p>I see. So just give up. Don&#8217;t do what you want. Don&#8217;t challenge the patriarchy, just complain about it on a blog. Great idea. That sure is feminist of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/25/the-evangelical-pro-life-guide-to-sexy-feminism/#comment-118381</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add that that isn&#039;t true of everyone, and that i have been guilty of it in the past!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that that isn&#8217;t true of everyone, and that i have been guilty of it in the past!</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/25/the-evangelical-pro-life-guide-to-sexy-feminism/#comment-118380</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I was more positive about sex, ignoring the sex-positive label for a bit. I&#039;d love for men to be a bit more positive about sex too, because it would be great if sex wasn&#039;t still classed as dirty and meaningless and your partners as inferior. It&#039;s pathetic that people still have to devalue the people they sleep with  because sex is still considered dirty and evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I was more positive about sex, ignoring the sex-positive label for a bit. I&#8217;d love for men to be a bit more positive about sex too, because it would be great if sex wasn&#8217;t still classed as dirty and meaningless and your partners as inferior. It&#8217;s pathetic that people still have to devalue the people they sleep with  because sex is still considered dirty and evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Me too &#171; blue milk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me too &#171; blue milk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] enjoy this discussion. And while we&#8217;re talking Patriarchy Blaming, you really should read this, this and this (oh, and this) if you&#8217;re at all wondering about the case against sex [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] enjoy this discussion. And while we&#8217;re talking Patriarchy Blaming, you really should read this, this and this (oh, and this) if you&#8217;re at all wondering about the case against sex [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Elinor</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/25/the-evangelical-pro-life-guide-to-sexy-feminism/#comment-112513</link>
		<dc:creator>Elinor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What I and others are concerned with is this promoting of “sex-positivity” at the expense of actual feminism: the idea that all feminists (and, really, all women) must declare themselves “sex-positive,” by which they mean pro-sex industry, or be shamed as sex-hating Victorians. I am also concerned with the idea that having an orgasm and enjoying sex is in and of itself a feminist act, which some sex-poz types get very close to arguing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Indeed.  I think Holly is attacking a strawfeminist, definitely.  I didn&#039;t see anyone suggest that she doesn&#039;t really like sex.  

Personally I don&#039;t want to get naked for someone who doesn&#039;t respect me.  If you think the proper thing to do is to get naked and then say &quot;I&#039;m naked! Respect me anyway!&quot;...well, tough, I&#039;m not doing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What I and others are concerned with is this promoting of “sex-positivity” at the expense of actual feminism: the idea that all feminists (and, really, all women) must declare themselves “sex-positive,” by which they mean pro-sex industry, or be shamed as sex-hating Victorians. I am also concerned with the idea that having an orgasm and enjoying sex is in and of itself a feminist act, which some sex-poz types get very close to arguing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed.  I think Holly is attacking a strawfeminist, definitely.  I didn&#8217;t see anyone suggest that she doesn&#8217;t really like sex.  </p>
<p>Personally I don&#8217;t want to get naked for someone who doesn&#8217;t respect me.  If you think the proper thing to do is to get naked and then say &#8220;I&#8217;m naked! Respect me anyway!&#8221;&#8230;well, tough, I&#8217;m not doing that.</p>
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		<title>By: ginmar</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/03/25/the-evangelical-pro-life-guide-to-sexy-feminism/#comment-112373</link>
		<dc:creator>ginmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they don&#039;t even get Dworkin right, either. If I have one more woman sneer that Dworkin said &quot;All sex is rape&quot; I&#039;m going to start throwing things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they don&#8217;t even get Dworkin right, either. If I have one more woman sneer that Dworkin said &#8220;All sex is rape&#8221; I&#8217;m going to start throwing things.</p>
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