Comments on: The new virgin menace http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:19:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: GXB http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-158181 GXB Sun, 17 Jan 2010 07:24:39 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-158181 Blame the oppression of the Harvard Crimson, and the mainstream media for its collusion! Mainstream media quotes the Harvard Crimson as if it were a serious news source, and even the Harvard name itself doesn't work for the other student publications in the way that it does along the stepping stone Harvard-->Crimson-->Public. I mean, after graduating, even Harvard students have to be doing something to get that kind of attention! <a href="http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2007/3/14/abstinence-the-new-pink-some-women/" rel="nofollow">Here's the article Jamie wrote.</a> It happens to other places too, but even then it's usually a brand-name bias. Setting the source of such attention aside, it's a real problem for those who receive it: first of all, most researched articles in the Crimson are written by freshmen participating in the year-long "comping" process, and if they get in they don't have to write much. So most (probably almost all) students appear in the Crimson at some point, and if and when those articles make it into the New York Times or other large media outlets the corrections do not follow them there. Maybe that's what normal journalism is like, but I then things like op-eds don't normally win other media attention that way. College students can do a lot of important things and start shaping informed opinions, but that doesn't mean we need the New York Times to tell us what one student opines based solely on personal experience before she gets back out into the rest of the world! So how about some worthwhile campus newspaper articles from your college of choice? Blame the oppression of the Harvard Crimson, and the mainstream media for its collusion!

Mainstream media quotes the Harvard Crimson as if it were a serious news source, and even the Harvard name itself doesn’t work for the other student publications in the way that it does along the stepping stone Harvard–>Crimson–>Public. I mean, after graduating, even Harvard students have to be doing something to get that kind of attention! Here’s the article Jamie wrote. It happens to other places too, but even then it’s usually a brand-name bias.

Setting the source of such attention aside, it’s a real problem for those who receive it: first of all, most researched articles in the Crimson are written by freshmen participating in the year-long “comping” process, and if they get in they don’t have to write much. So most (probably almost all) students appear in the Crimson at some point, and if and when those articles make it into the New York Times or other large media outlets the corrections do not follow them there. Maybe that’s what normal journalism is like, but I then things like op-eds don’t normally win other media attention that way. College students can do a lot of important things and start shaping informed opinions, but that doesn’t mean we need the New York Times to tell us what one student opines based solely on personal experience before she gets back out into the rest of the world! So how about some worthwhile campus newspaper articles from your college of choice?

]]> By: Something to think about « Rage Against the Man-chine http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-124234 Something to think about « Rage Against the Man-chine Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:17:21 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-124234 [...] to think about Jump to Comments From this post: “That’s the thing about patriarchy. It does the defining, not you. That’s what makes it [...] [...] to think about Jump to Comments From this post: “That’s the thing about patriarchy. It does the defining, not you. That’s what makes it [...]

]]> By: Padraigin http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-120782 Padraigin Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:51:52 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-120782 I have absolutely no interest in what some strange woman does with her vagina. None. I don't care if she's fucking dudes with it. I don't care if she's fucking women with it. I don't care if she's not fucking anyone, and I don't care if she prefers to lie on her back, legs in the air, and use her vagina as a vase for pink roses (complete with water and the little packet of plant food). Don't. Care. What does bother me, though, is her attempt to define women by what they do with their vaginas. We do a lot of different shit, and even if two people chose the same thing, it doesn't mean it's for the same reason. The same cause can propel two people to two very different extremes. She's not 13 years old. She ought to be able to define herself without reference to all the fucking she's not doing. I have absolutely no interest in what some strange woman does with her vagina. None.

I don’t care if she’s fucking dudes with it. I don’t care if she’s fucking women with it. I don’t care if she’s not fucking anyone, and I don’t care if she prefers to lie on her back, legs in the air, and use her vagina as a vase for pink roses (complete with water and the little packet of plant food).

Don’t. Care.

What does bother me, though, is her attempt to define women by what they do with their vaginas. We do a lot of different shit, and even if two people chose the same thing, it doesn’t mean it’s for the same reason. The same cause can propel two people to two very different extremes.

She’s not 13 years old. She ought to be able to define herself without reference to all the fucking she’s not doing.

]]> By: chlorophyll http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-116489 chlorophyll Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:01:52 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-116489 Sucks to be her. She may as well get used to the disappointment that is heterosexual sex right now rather than pin all her sexual hopes and dreams on marriage. Sucks to be her. She may as well get used to the disappointment that is heterosexual sex right now rather than pin all her sexual hopes and dreams on marriage.

]]> By: Nakedthoughts http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-114764 Nakedthoughts Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:26:15 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-114764 Also... Not having a problem touching yourself is different than masturbating all the time. I don't masturbate all the time myself, but I end up touching myself routinely as i use a Diva Cup or sea sponges (depending on my mood) for blood recepticals during my period. I'm ok letting my hand touch what many consider to be a "dirty vagina" I think that's the point I think Jen was trying to make. It sounds like the girl DOES have a sex drive and is avoiding it because vaginas are icky to touch, Not because she's not in the mood to orgasm: "Whenever sexual urges struck, she told me, she was able to manage them by going on a long run and assumed that everyone should be able to do the same." and "Fredell, when asked about masturbation, just said, “Oh, God, no!”" Also… Not having a problem touching yourself is different than masturbating all the time. I don’t masturbate all the time myself, but I end up touching myself routinely as i use a Diva Cup or sea sponges (depending on my mood) for blood recepticals during my period. I’m ok letting my hand touch what many consider to be a “dirty vagina” I think that’s the point I think Jen was trying to make. It sounds like the girl DOES have a sex drive and is avoiding it because vaginas are icky to touch, Not because she’s not in the mood to orgasm:

“Whenever sexual urges struck, she told me, she was able to manage them by going on a long run and assumed that everyone should be able to do the same.”

and

“Fredell, when asked about masturbation, just said, “Oh, God, no!””

]]> By: Lara http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-114570 Lara Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:34:23 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-114570 Twisty is it alright if I also quote you on my facebook? Yeah, yeah, I know...facebook.... :P Such a good idea nakedthoughts! Twisty is it alright if I also quote you on my facebook? Yeah, yeah, I know…facebook…. :P
Such a good idea nakedthoughts!

]]> By: nakedthoughts http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-114433 nakedthoughts Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:37:31 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-114433 "That’s the thing about patriarchy. It does the defining, not you. That’s what makes it the dominant paradigm. You can abstain from sex, you can fuck your way across the universe, you can be a stone butch dyke with a utility belt, you can get your boobs amputated and your uterus ripped out, you can be sex-neutral in your own crackpot mind, you can be ugly or hawt, you can be the Democrats’ presidential nominee, you can even age out of desirability, but you will always be defined in terms of, and used according to, that which the dominant culture describes as your essence: sex." --Twisty (I Blame the Patriachy) I've added the above with the above credits to my favorite quotes on my facebook page. if that's not ok let me know and I'll take it down. thanks nakedthoughts “That’s the thing about patriarchy. It does the defining, not you. That’s what makes it the dominant paradigm. You can abstain from sex, you can fuck your way across the universe, you can be a stone butch dyke with a utility belt, you can get your boobs amputated and your uterus ripped out, you can be sex-neutral in your own crackpot mind, you can be ugly or hawt, you can be the Democrats’ presidential nominee, you can even age out of desirability, but you will always be defined in terms of, and used according to, that which the dominant culture describes as your essence: sex.”
–Twisty (I Blame the Patriachy)

I’ve added the above with the above credits to my favorite quotes on my facebook page. if that’s not ok let me know and I’ll take it down.

thanks

nakedthoughts

]]> By: notmandy http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113738 notmandy Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:43:55 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113738 This is an interesting response from Leo (one of the subjects of the story) on how he was misrepresented in the article. I figured the students all had more depth than the journalist gave them. http://jezebel.com/377539/harvard-virgin-leo-keliher-not-as-horny-as-the-times-made-it-sound This is an interesting response from Leo (one of the subjects of the story) on how he was misrepresented in the article. I figured the students all had more depth than the journalist gave them.

http://jezebel.com/377539/harvard-virgin-leo-keliher-not-as-horny-as-the-times-made-it-sound

]]> By: nobodyinparticular http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113646 nobodyinparticular Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:26:33 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113646 "<i>Sex is all dudesex. Masturbation isn’t sex. It’s its own thing. Or, if it isn’t, it should be.</i> Ah, Twisty, your words here are better than chocolate. Which in itself is better than any form of sex, *and also* better than masturbation. “Sex is all dudesex. Masturbation isn’t sex. It’s its own thing. Or, if it isn’t, it should be.

Ah, Twisty, your words here are better than chocolate. Which in itself is better than any form of sex, *and also* better than masturbation.

]]> By: The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113619 The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:44:50 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113619 One more thing: From the header I can see that Twisty has taken the advice of the psych ward orderlies for dealing with toddlers and pre-rational young children: There can be only one crazy in the room at the time, so always make sure it's you. One more thing: From the header I can see that Twisty has taken the advice of the psych ward orderlies for dealing with toddlers and pre-rational young children: There can be only one crazy in the room at the time, so always make sure it’s you.

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