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		<title>By: Something to think about &#171; Rage Against the Man-chine</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-124234</link>
		<author>Something to think about &#171; Rage Against the Man-chine</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to think&#160;about  Jump to Comments From this post: &#8220;That’s the thing about patriarchy. It does the defining, not you. That’s what makes it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to think&nbsp;about  Jump to Comments From this post: &#8220;That’s the thing about patriarchy. It does the defining, not you. That’s what makes it [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Padraigin</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-120782</link>
		<author>Padraigin</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-120782</guid>
		<description>I have absolutely no interest in what some strange woman does with her vagina.  None.

I don't care if she's fucking dudes with it.  I don't care if she's fucking women with it.  I don't care if she's not fucking anyone, and I don't care if she prefers to lie on her back, legs in the air, and use her vagina as a vase for pink roses (complete with water and the little packet of plant food).

Don't.  Care.


What does bother me, though, is her attempt to define women by what they do with their vaginas.  We do a lot of different shit, and even if two people chose the same thing, it doesn't mean it's for the same reason.  The same cause can propel two people to two very different extremes.

She's not 13 years old.  She ought to be able to define herself without reference to all the fucking she's not doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have absolutely no interest in what some strange woman does with her vagina.  None.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if she&#8217;s fucking dudes with it.  I don&#8217;t care if she&#8217;s fucking women with it.  I don&#8217;t care if she&#8217;s not fucking anyone, and I don&#8217;t care if she prefers to lie on her back, legs in the air, and use her vagina as a vase for pink roses (complete with water and the little packet of plant food).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t.  Care.</p>
<p>What does bother me, though, is her attempt to define women by what they do with their vaginas.  We do a lot of different shit, and even if two people chose the same thing, it doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s for the same reason.  The same cause can propel two people to two very different extremes.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s not 13 years old.  She ought to be able to define herself without reference to all the fucking she&#8217;s not doing.</p>
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		<title>By: chlorophyll</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-116489</link>
		<author>chlorophyll</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-116489</guid>
		<description>Sucks to be her.  She may as well get used to the disappointment that is heterosexual sex right now rather than pin all her sexual hopes and dreams on marriage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sucks to be her.  She may as well get used to the disappointment that is heterosexual sex right now rather than pin all her sexual hopes and dreams on marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: Nakedthoughts</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-114764</link>
		<author>Nakedthoughts</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-114764</guid>
		<description>Also... Not having a problem touching yourself is different than masturbating all the time.  I don't masturbate all the time myself, but I end up touching myself routinely as i use a Diva Cup or sea sponges (depending on my mood) for blood recepticals during my period.  I'm ok letting my hand touch what many consider to be a "dirty vagina" I think that's the point I think Jen was trying to make.  It sounds like the girl DOES have a sex drive and is avoiding it because vaginas are icky to touch, Not because she's not in the mood to orgasm:

"Whenever sexual urges struck, she told me, she was able to manage them by going on a long run and assumed that everyone should be able to do the same."

and 

"Fredell, when asked about masturbation, just said, “Oh, God, no!”"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also&#8230; Not having a problem touching yourself is different than masturbating all the time.  I don&#8217;t masturbate all the time myself, but I end up touching myself routinely as i use a Diva Cup or sea sponges (depending on my mood) for blood recepticals during my period.  I&#8217;m ok letting my hand touch what many consider to be a &#8220;dirty vagina&#8221; I think that&#8217;s the point I think Jen was trying to make.  It sounds like the girl DOES have a sex drive and is avoiding it because vaginas are icky to touch, Not because she&#8217;s not in the mood to orgasm:</p>
<p>&#8220;Whenever sexual urges struck, she told me, she was able to manage them by going on a long run and assumed that everyone should be able to do the same.&#8221;</p>
<p>and </p>
<p>&#8220;Fredell, when asked about masturbation, just said, “Oh, God, no!”&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lara</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-114570</link>
		<author>Lara</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-114570</guid>
		<description>Twisty is it alright if I also quote you on my facebook?  Yeah, yeah, I know...facebook.... :P
Such a good idea nakedthoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twisty is it alright if I also quote you on my facebook?  Yeah, yeah, I know&#8230;facebook&#8230;. :P<br />
Such a good idea nakedthoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: nakedthoughts</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-114433</link>
		<author>nakedthoughts</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-114433</guid>
		<description>"That’s the thing about patriarchy. It does the defining, not you. That’s what makes it the dominant paradigm. You can abstain from sex, you can fuck your way across the universe, you can be a stone butch dyke with a utility belt, you can get your boobs amputated and your uterus ripped out, you can be sex-neutral in your own crackpot mind, you can be ugly or hawt, you can be the Democrats’ presidential nominee, you can even age out of desirability, but you will always be defined in terms of, and used according to, that which the dominant culture describes as your essence: sex." 
--Twisty (I Blame the Patriachy)

I've added the above with the above credits to my favorite quotes on my facebook page.  if that's not ok let me know and I'll take it down.  

thanks

nakedthoughts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s the thing about patriarchy. It does the defining, not you. That’s what makes it the dominant paradigm. You can abstain from sex, you can fuck your way across the universe, you can be a stone butch dyke with a utility belt, you can get your boobs amputated and your uterus ripped out, you can be sex-neutral in your own crackpot mind, you can be ugly or hawt, you can be the Democrats’ presidential nominee, you can even age out of desirability, but you will always be defined in terms of, and used according to, that which the dominant culture describes as your essence: sex.&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Twisty (I Blame the Patriachy)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve added the above with the above credits to my favorite quotes on my facebook page.  if that&#8217;s not ok let me know and I&#8217;ll take it down.  </p>
<p>thanks</p>
<p>nakedthoughts</p>
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		<title>By: notmandy</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113738</link>
		<author>notmandy</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113738</guid>
		<description>This is an interesting response from Leo (one of the subjects of the story) on how he was misrepresented in the article. I figured the students all had more depth than the journalist gave them. 

http://jezebel.com/377539/harvard-virgin-leo-keliher-not-as-horny-as-the-times-made-it-sound</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting response from Leo (one of the subjects of the story) on how he was misrepresented in the article. I figured the students all had more depth than the journalist gave them. </p>
<p><a href="http://jezebel.com/377539/harvard-virgin-leo-keliher-not-as-horny-as-the-times-made-it-sound" rel="nofollow">http://jezebel.com/377539/harvard-virgin-leo-keliher-not-as-horny-as-the-times-made-it-sound</a></p>
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		<title>By: nobodyinparticular</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113646</link>
		<author>nobodyinparticular</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113646</guid>
		<description>"&lt;i&gt;Sex is all dudesex. Masturbation isn’t sex. It’s its own thing. Or, if it isn’t, it should be.&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, Twisty, your words here are better than chocolate. Which in itself is better than any form of sex, *and also* better than masturbation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Sex is all dudesex. Masturbation isn’t sex. It’s its own thing. Or, if it isn’t, it should be.</i></p>
<p>Ah, Twisty, your words here are better than chocolate. Which in itself is better than any form of sex, *and also* better than masturbation.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113619</link>
		<author>The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113619</guid>
		<description>One more thing:  From the header I can see that Twisty has taken the advice of the psych ward orderlies for dealing with toddlers and pre-rational young children: There can be only one crazy in the room at the time, so always make sure it's you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing:  From the header I can see that Twisty has taken the advice of the psych ward orderlies for dealing with toddlers and pre-rational young children: There can be only one crazy in the room at the time, so always make sure it&#8217;s you.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113617</link>
		<author>The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/02/the-new-virgin-menace/#comment-113617</guid>
		<description>This the post I link to when faced with yet another snorefest over whether or not X sex-related behavior is "feminist." I can say OH WHO FECKING CARES IT DOESN'T MATTER and plink! A link that proves that yes, I DID think it through and NO I can't explain it, so here go read Twisty instead. YEAH. Now shut up about my shoes.

Hattie: Next time, interrupt the dude with "Oh that's ok, we don't mind: We lose interest in your kind long before menopause anyway. By the time guys like you finally lose interest we're sick of faking our death and waiting for you to buy a clue. So don't worry; it's a win-win."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This the post I link to when faced with yet another snorefest over whether or not X sex-related behavior is &#8220;feminist.&#8221; I can say OH WHO FECKING CARES IT DOESN&#8217;T MATTER and plink! A link that proves that yes, I DID think it through and NO I can&#8217;t explain it, so here go read Twisty instead. YEAH. Now shut up about my shoes.</p>
<p>Hattie: Next time, interrupt the dude with &#8220;Oh that&#8217;s ok, we don&#8217;t mind: We lose interest in your kind long before menopause anyway. By the time guys like you finally lose interest we&#8217;re sick of faking our death and waiting for you to buy a clue. So don&#8217;t worry; it&#8217;s a win-win.&#8221;</p>
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