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	<title>Comments on: MO State House: &#8220;Women are morons&#8221;</title>
	<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/</link>
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		<title>By: Meg Thornton</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-117636</link>
		<author>Meg Thornton</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A suggestion: find the names of the legislators who vote for such things, and offer them gift certificates for vasectomies.  That way they can do *their* bit for the whole "preventing abortions" thing.  If there's a female name on the list, she can get her tubes tied instead (although, if there *is* a female name on the list, it's likely she'd out of her reproductive years anyway.  But the hell with it, she can have the surgery too).  

I also think the legislators in question ought to undergo a pelvic ultrasound themselves.  Are they aware part of the process requires having a full bladder?  This means you have to drink something like two litres of water about an hour before the ultrasound is due.  Then they *push down* on the region of your bladder, so on top of having a stranger peering at your lower abdomen (which is a fairly private region for most people) you're also having to fight not to damn well piss all over them.  The full bladder bit is necessary so the ultrasound tech can tell which bit *is* your bladder, rather than guessing.  Yays.  (No, mine was in order to check everything was in order internally - I had a GP for a time who wanted to know everything inside and out).

What?  Pushing an uncomfortable and probably unnecessary medical procedure on someone is unethical?  Well, in that case, get that bloody "compulsory ultrasounds" legislation out of the statute books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A suggestion: find the names of the legislators who vote for such things, and offer them gift certificates for vasectomies.  That way they can do *their* bit for the whole &#8220;preventing abortions&#8221; thing.  If there&#8217;s a female name on the list, she can get her tubes tied instead (although, if there *is* a female name on the list, it&#8217;s likely she&#8217;d out of her reproductive years anyway.  But the hell with it, she can have the surgery too).  </p>
<p>I also think the legislators in question ought to undergo a pelvic ultrasound themselves.  Are they aware part of the process requires having a full bladder?  This means you have to drink something like two litres of water about an hour before the ultrasound is due.  Then they *push down* on the region of your bladder, so on top of having a stranger peering at your lower abdomen (which is a fairly private region for most people) you&#8217;re also having to fight not to damn well piss all over them.  The full bladder bit is necessary so the ultrasound tech can tell which bit *is* your bladder, rather than guessing.  Yays.  (No, mine was in order to check everything was in order internally - I had a GP for a time who wanted to know everything inside and out).</p>
<p>What?  Pushing an uncomfortable and probably unnecessary medical procedure on someone is unethical?  Well, in that case, get that bloody &#8220;compulsory ultrasounds&#8221; legislation out of the statute books.</p>
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		<title>By: Twisty</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-117525</link>
		<author>Twisty</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 00:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-117525</guid>
		<description>You go, Karley!

(the Joplin Globe published Karley's hilarious letter to the editor. Read it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You go, Karley!</p>
<p>(the Joplin Globe published Karley&#8217;s hilarious letter to the editor. Read it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Karley</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-117507</link>
		<author>Karley</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 21:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-117507</guid>
		<description>http://www.joplinglobe.com/editorial/local_story_123113223.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.joplinglobe.com/editorial/local_story_123113223.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.joplinglobe.com/editorial/local_story_123113223.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: crowlie</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-117185</link>
		<author>crowlie</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 08:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-117185</guid>
		<description>What a shame we can't send you all a supply of Pennyroyal or RU486 for emergencies.

Mores the shame that what happens in the good ole US of A is so often immitated in other countries. Our Govt has recently decided to emphasise that marriage is only ever a situation where a man can lord it over his woman, in Australia... so it's no surprise that our Sydney Anglican PM hasn't tabled any plans to bring abortion or child-rearing legislation into the 21st century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a shame we can&#8217;t send you all a supply of Pennyroyal or RU486 for emergencies.</p>
<p>Mores the shame that what happens in the good ole US of A is so often immitated in other countries. Our Govt has recently decided to emphasise that marriage is only ever a situation where a man can lord it over his woman, in Australia&#8230; so it&#8217;s no surprise that our Sydney Anglican PM hasn&#8217;t tabled any plans to bring abortion or child-rearing legislation into the 21st century.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-117128</link>
		<author>Jessica</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-117128</guid>
		<description>Oklahoma just passed a law requiring ultrasounds to be performed on all women seeking abortions. Governor Brad Henry vetoed it, but the legislature voted to override the veto. There is no exception for victims of rape or incest, and women cannot opt out. Either a transabdominal or transvaginal ultrasound must be performed--whichever method gives the clearer picture of the embryo. For abortions early in the pregnancy, that means it has to be done with a probe placed in the vagina. 

&lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-dana-stone/oklahomas-anti-abortion-b_b_97672.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-dana-stone/oklahomas-anti-abortion-b_b_97672.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oklahoma just passed a law requiring ultrasounds to be performed on all women seeking abortions. Governor Brad Henry vetoed it, but the legislature voted to override the veto. There is no exception for victims of rape or incest, and women cannot opt out. Either a transabdominal or transvaginal ultrasound must be performed&#8211;whichever method gives the clearer picture of the embryo. For abortions early in the pregnancy, that means it has to be done with a probe placed in the vagina. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-dana-stone/oklahomas-anti-abortion-b_b_97672.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-dana-stone/oklahomas-anti-abortion-b_b_97672.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karley</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-116125</link>
		<author>Karley</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-116125</guid>
		<description>Dangit! Someone beat me to it!

http://www.joplinglobe.com/editorial/local_story_115213627.html

Of course, she has the Planned Parenthood Abortionist Cooties, so they'll be on her like a flock of crazed seagulls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dangit! Someone beat me to it!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.joplinglobe.com/editorial/local_story_115213627.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.joplinglobe.com/editorial/local_story_115213627.html</a></p>
<p>Of course, she has the Planned Parenthood Abortionist Cooties, so they&#8217;ll be on her like a flock of crazed seagulls.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvanite</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-116099</link>
		<author>Sylvanite</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-116099</guid>
		<description>Having recently had a baby myself, I gotta say it's a decision not to be entered into lightly.  Anything that is less than completely supportive of the woman involved just exposes what a lie the "family-values" rhetoric really is.  Everything in the U.S. seems frankly set up to discourage childbearing.  No wonder the menfolk have to resort to bully tactics!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having recently had a baby myself, I gotta say it&#8217;s a decision not to be entered into lightly.  Anything that is less than completely supportive of the woman involved just exposes what a lie the &#8220;family-values&#8221; rhetoric really is.  Everything in the U.S. seems frankly set up to discourage childbearing.  No wonder the menfolk have to resort to bully tactics!</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-116089</link>
		<author>kate</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-116089</guid>
		<description>Leggo:

Just to nitpic because I think its important to pick out, your statement, &lt;em&gt;"...unfairly impact women living in poverty, women of color, rural women, women whose autonomy has been impacted by domestic violence, living children, multiple jobs…"&lt;/em&gt;

I'm not sure, but I don't know how being a woman of color in and of itself, outside of other circumstances would automatically disadvantage a woman in this situation.

I'd say that all women, of whatever "color" are necessarily disadvantaged when economics, geographic remoteness, family support system and whatever else come into play.  I may be wrong, but I'd imagine an upper or middle class woman of "color" would enjoy the same advantages of her "white" counterparts.

This is a common error of thinking that I think needs to be called out.  Might I also add that economics is the main issue from which all the other factors usually spring from.  

I'd go farther and say that economics plays a huge role in the power of the fundie/pro-life movement and disempowering women by tying them to child rearing feeds the culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leggo:</p>
<p>Just to nitpic because I think its important to pick out, your statement, <em>&#8220;&#8230;unfairly impact women living in poverty, women of color, rural women, women whose autonomy has been impacted by domestic violence, living children, multiple jobs…&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure, but I don&#8217;t know how being a woman of color in and of itself, outside of other circumstances would automatically disadvantage a woman in this situation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that all women, of whatever &#8220;color&#8221; are necessarily disadvantaged when economics, geographic remoteness, family support system and whatever else come into play.  I may be wrong, but I&#8217;d imagine an upper or middle class woman of &#8220;color&#8221; would enjoy the same advantages of her &#8220;white&#8221; counterparts.</p>
<p>This is a common error of thinking that I think needs to be called out.  Might I also add that economics is the main issue from which all the other factors usually spring from.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d go farther and say that economics plays a huge role in the power of the fundie/pro-life movement and disempowering women by tying them to child rearing feeds the culture.</p>
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		<title>By: CLD</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-116005</link>
		<author>CLD</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"We mentally link ultrasound with the word and idea ‘baby’."&lt;/i&gt;

The only thing an ultrasound is mentally linked with in my mind is the rather large number of fibroids that took residence in my uterus prior to its removal. I wasn't going to use it [the uterus] anyway, so I gladly allowed it to leave.

It gets harder each day to hear godbags talking about pregnant women and tsk-tsking what these women do and don't do with their bodies; as if these godbags owned the women and their bodies and actually had a right to have an opinion on them. IBTP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;We mentally link ultrasound with the word and idea ‘baby’.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>The only thing an ultrasound is mentally linked with in my mind is the rather large number of fibroids that took residence in my uterus prior to its removal. I wasn&#8217;t going to use it [the uterus] anyway, so I gladly allowed it to leave.</p>
<p>It gets harder each day to hear godbags talking about pregnant women and tsk-tsking what these women do and don&#8217;t do with their bodies; as if these godbags owned the women and their bodies and actually had a right to have an opinion on them. IBTP.</p>
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		<title>By: felagund</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/04/22/mo-state-house-women-are-morons/#comment-115900</link>
		<author>felagund</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that if they're going to show the film of the precious little baybee, they should have to show a film of a fifteen-year-old having a tantrum. It's only fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that if they&#8217;re going to show the film of the precious little baybee, they should have to show a film of a fifteen-year-old having a tantrum. It&#8217;s only fair.</p>
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