Comments on: Rape trafficking interlude with Peridot Ash http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/rape-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:18:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Spinster aunt perceives flaw in PBS documentary at I Blame The Patriarchy http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/rape-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-148399 Spinster aunt perceives flaw in PBS documentary at I Blame The Patriarchy Wed, 06 May 2009 16:00:53 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/sex-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-148399 [...] I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: DudeAmerica just can’t resist hot young prostituted Russians! [...] [...] I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: DudeAmerica just can’t resist hot young prostituted Russians! [...]

]]> By: Craig McGill http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/rape-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-126010 Craig McGill Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:26:21 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/sex-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-126010 @sarahcl: I found when I was writing Human Traffic that the reason for women to use other women was a power thing mostly. For some, there were more seedy reasons, but for many it was just the fact that they could do what they wanted to these younger and prettier women. @sarahcl: I found when I was writing Human Traffic that the reason for women to use other women was a power thing mostly. For some, there were more seedy reasons, but for many it was just the fact that they could do what they wanted to these younger and prettier women.

]]> By: Supersister http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/rape-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-125804 Supersister Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:16:25 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/sex-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-125804 I always wonder why the focus on victims. As a society we need to target rapists and force them to address their behaviour or else move on elsewhere. If we eradicated normalised violence, there would be no unwilling or exploited sex worker. Surely this is in all our interests? The emphasis on women and children to speak out is unrealistic, silence is vital for their survival. I always wonder why the focus on victims. As a society we need to target rapists and force them to address their behaviour or else move on elsewhere. If we eradicated normalised violence, there would be no unwilling or exploited sex worker. Surely this is in all our interests? The emphasis on women and children to speak out is unrealistic, silence is vital for their survival.

]]> By: Ron Sullivan http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/rape-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124942 Ron Sullivan Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:25:00 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/sex-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124942 Just to add a note of encouragement here, a couple of details left out of that SFGate story: The real story was first broken by a couple of female journalism students at Berkeley High, when they read about the CO poisonings. They wondered why the young women, who were about their own age, weren't in school—the incident happened on a school day. So they researched the story and it first ran in the highschool paper, IIRC. <i>Then</i> the legal storm broke. (One detail of it was that a bottle of Viagra with Reddy's prescription label on it was found in the girls' medicine cabinet.) I probably have no right to be, really, but I am so fuckin proud of those students it all gives me a fit of hope. Other ramifications: Reddy/his family owned/still owns a lot of apartment buildings and a restaurant and nightclub in Berkeley. Friend of ours used to live in one of those apartments, and it took raising holy hell to get even half-assed maintenance done. The general fear was that Reddy would sell off the buildings if he got deported, and the tenants would be pretty much screwed out of rent control and other protections. This is a town with a huge student population and ridiculously high real-estate prices. Hasn't happened yet; no guarantee it won't. Just to add a note of encouragement here, a couple of details left out of that SFGate story:

The real story was first broken by a couple of female journalism students at Berkeley High, when they read about the CO poisonings. They wondered why the young women, who were about their own age, weren’t in school—the incident happened on a school day. So they researched the story and it first ran in the highschool paper, IIRC. Then the legal storm broke. (One detail of it was that a bottle of Viagra with Reddy’s prescription label on it was found in the girls’ medicine cabinet.)

I probably have no right to be, really, but I am so fuckin proud of those students it all gives me a fit of hope.

Other ramifications: Reddy/his family owned/still owns a lot of apartment buildings and a restaurant and nightclub in Berkeley. Friend of ours used to live in one of those apartments, and it took raising holy hell to get even half-assed maintenance done. The general fear was that Reddy would sell off the buildings if he got deported, and the tenants would be pretty much screwed out of rent control and other protections. This is a town with a huge student population and ridiculously high real-estate prices.

Hasn’t happened yet; no guarantee it won’t.

]]> By: Kay Em http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/rape-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124915 Kay Em Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:26:21 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/sex-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124915 They only found three? Here's a suggestion where they can look: http://www.oneangrygirl.net/outrage.html http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2006/04/28/more_women_are_risking_rape_death_on_illegal_journey_to_us/ http://www.stopdemand.org/afawcs0112878/ID=137/newsdetails.html Hint: follow the Johns, people. Unless. . . they were the Johns. They only found three? Here’s a suggestion where they can look:
http://www.oneangrygirl.net/outrage.html

http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2006/04/28/more_women_are_risking_rape_death_on_illegal_journey_to_us/

http://www.stopdemand.org/afawcs0112878/ID=137/newsdetails.html

Hint: follow the Johns, people. Unless. . . they were the Johns.

]]> By: OM http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/rape-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124908 OM Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:29:29 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/sex-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124908 http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/flash_point/001moldova/index.html A slide show about Eastern European women trafficked. Here in the US is a story of slavery, including sex, that was uncovered due to a holiday time carbon monoxide poisoning of a teenager (I love that the female judge added years onto the sentencing beyond the recommended one): http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/06/20/MN157228.DTL Please note that this plea was definitely a "deal" amongst gentlemen (I use the term loosely) as many family members, including his son, were under threat of racketeering charges. I'm sure the whole thing was much bigger than the one case brought. Many, many victims, little concern. http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/flash_point/001moldova/index.html

A slide show about Eastern European women trafficked.

Here in the US is a story of slavery, including sex, that was uncovered due to a holiday time carbon monoxide poisoning of a teenager (I love that the female judge added years onto the sentencing beyond the recommended one):
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/06/20/MN157228.DTL

Please note that this plea was definitely a “deal” amongst gentlemen (I use the term loosely) as many family members, including his son, were under threat of racketeering charges. I’m sure the whole thing was much bigger than the one case brought.

Many, many victims, little concern.

]]> By: Fhiona http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/rape-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124881 Fhiona Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:16:08 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/sex-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124881 I've just had a meeting with the police. One of my cases, a little girl of about 9/10 years, has now been missing for a year, so we were reviewing and wondering where to go next. We don't know her real name, or her real date of birth. I hope she's still out there, but the longer she's missing, the more likely she is to be dead. We know that a couple in the city paid £4500 for her, but the trafficker (a woman) disappeared with her before they got their hands on her. Obviously realised she could get more elsewhere. In the UK today, you can buy a nine year old Nigerian girl for four and a half grand. A usual destination for Nigerian girls is Italian brothels, there's a big demand for them there. The Italian police are wise to this, so they basically wait on the tarmac for planes from Nigerian to land. We're less able to do this in the UK, so the girls get brought here first. They're put into school for a few weeks to get them some sort of 'evidence' that they are resident in the UK, then get taken to Italy 'for a holiday', where they are sold on. We're having a lot of problems with girls from the Eastern Bloc coming in, as they have Eurpoean passports and therefore have a right to be here. These girls and women are usually over 18 (but not always) and are often here for the sort of assault you're talking about - ie not the usual 'happy' rape, where the punter gets to kid himself she's there of her own free will because she's smiling. (That she's smiling because she'll be beaten if she doesn't is something he doesn't have to think about). These types of brothels tend to be run by Albanians in our city, and they have an appalling reputation for the level of violence they use against the women. If anyone from the UK would like to know more about the relationships between gender, ethnicity and type of abuse in the UK, you can have a look at the ECPAT and CEOP websites. There's a lot of excellent research on there, although it concentrates on children. You can also join ECPAT's Thr3e Small Steps campaign. This is important, because at the moment in the UK, trafficking victims, including children, are being treated more like illegal immigrants than victims of crime. The UK has a Reservation on the UN Convention On The Rights Of The Child, which means we haven't signed up to the bit about it not mattering where the child is from if they need services. We also won't sign the Council of Europe convention either. At the moment, we're really struggling with this issue. Often, the 'usual' signs of child abuse are absent - we know what we're looking at if a kid is covered in bruises or is making an accusation of rape. It's much more difficult to weigh up the risks when we come up against kids like this. After all, they could just be on the run from immigration, and we don't want to put them at risk of being deported. If that risk was removed, we'd be able to be a lot more robust in our approach. I’ve just had a meeting with the police. One of my cases, a little girl of about 9/10 years, has now been missing for a year, so we were reviewing and wondering where to go next. We don’t know her real name, or her real date of birth. I hope she’s still out there, but the longer she’s missing, the more likely she is to be dead. We know that a couple in the city paid £4500 for her, but the trafficker (a woman) disappeared with her before they got their hands on her. Obviously realised she could get more elsewhere. In the UK today, you can buy a nine year old Nigerian girl for four and a half grand.

A usual destination for Nigerian girls is Italian brothels, there’s a big demand for them there. The Italian police are wise to this, so they basically wait on the tarmac for planes from Nigerian to land. We’re less able to do this in the UK, so the girls get brought here first. They’re put into school for a few weeks to get them some sort of ‘evidence’ that they are resident in the UK, then get taken to Italy ‘for a holiday’, where they are sold on.

We’re having a lot of problems with girls from the Eastern Bloc coming in, as they have Eurpoean passports and therefore have a right to be here. These girls and women are usually over 18 (but not always) and are often here for the sort of assault you’re talking about – ie not the usual ‘happy’ rape, where the punter gets to kid himself she’s there of her own free will because she’s smiling. (That she’s smiling because she’ll be beaten if she doesn’t is something he doesn’t have to think about). These types of brothels tend to be run by Albanians in our city, and they have an appalling reputation for the level of violence they use against the women.

If anyone from the UK would like to know more about the relationships between gender, ethnicity and type of abuse in the UK, you can have a look at the ECPAT and CEOP websites. There’s a lot of excellent research on there, although it concentrates on children.

You can also join ECPAT’s Thr3e Small Steps campaign. This is important, because at the moment in the UK, trafficking victims, including children, are being treated more like illegal immigrants than victims of crime. The UK has a Reservation on the UN Convention On The Rights Of The Child, which means we haven’t signed up to the bit about it not mattering where the child is from if they need services. We also won’t sign the Council of Europe convention either. At the moment, we’re really struggling with this issue. Often, the ‘usual’ signs of child abuse are absent – we know what we’re looking at if a kid is covered in bruises or is making an accusation of rape. It’s much more difficult to weigh up the risks when we come up against kids like this. After all, they could just be on the run from immigration, and we don’t want to put them at risk of being deported. If that risk was removed, we’d be able to be a lot more robust in our approach.

]]> By: Frankie http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/rape-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124851 Frankie Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:45:22 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/sex-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124851 If anyone is interested, there is a report just out on access to compensation for trafficking victims which can be summed up as: zip, nada. There is money available, but enough clever loopholes in national and international law to ensure you won't actually be able to get your hands on it, and will be forced into long, drawn out civil procedures against the trafficker (if you can find him - and let's face it, it's going to be a him) which, rather inconveniently, you probably won't recieve the appropriate residence permits to actually see reach a conclusion. Is there anything more frustrating about a legal system that international purports to help and protect victims and then allows countries to just drop them through the massive holes in their national systems? Also, @ Natalia, while there are a lot of women who do enter rape slavery willingly, what many are unaware of the conditions they will be working under including the inability to say 'no' to a 'client', under the traffickers control 24/7, and let's not forget the women who had their front teeth knocked out in Spain to make giving blowjobs more pleasant for the man. Apologies if that just made everyone heave. Anyway, the link for the report: http://www.osce.org/odihr/item_11_31284.html If anyone is interested, there is a report just out on access to compensation for trafficking victims which can be summed up as: zip, nada. There is money available, but enough clever loopholes in national and international law to ensure you won’t actually be able to get your hands on it, and will be forced into long, drawn out civil procedures against the trafficker (if you can find him – and let’s face it, it’s going to be a him) which, rather inconveniently, you probably won’t recieve the appropriate residence permits to actually see reach a conclusion.

Is there anything more frustrating about a legal system that international purports to help and protect victims and then allows countries to just drop them through the massive holes in their national systems?

Also, @ Natalia, while there are a lot of women who do enter rape slavery willingly, what many are unaware of the conditions they will be working under including the inability to say ‘no’ to a ‘client’, under the traffickers control 24/7, and let’s not forget the women who had their front teeth knocked out in Spain to make giving blowjobs more pleasant for the man. Apologies if that just made everyone heave.

Anyway, the link for the report: http://www.osce.org/odihr/item_11_31284.html

]]> By: TwissB http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/rape-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124815 TwissB Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:59:21 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/sex-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124815 Because the IMDb description of the unfortunately titled but excellent film "Very Young Girls," cited by Lara is so perfunctory and puerile, I am presuming to quote the review from the Onion's AV Club and to add a few more suggestions to Lara's for those interested in taking action against human trafficking - predominantly of women and girls. o "Reviewed by Scott Tobias - July 3rd, 2008 - The Onion So is it really all that hard out there for a pimp? Late in the powerful documentary Very Young Girls, Rachel Lloyd, a former prostitute and founder of a NYC non-profit that helps young streetwalkers regain control of their lives, receives an award for her efforts shortly after Three 6 Mafia collected an Academy Award for Best Song for Hustle & Flow. It's a sobering moment: The Three 6 Mafia song (and the movie it represents) seems harmless enough, but that harmlessness points to a softened public perception of pimps that doesn't jibe with the real deal. And that's one of the many obstacles Lloyd has to face as she tries to wrest these damaged girls not just from their pimps, but also from a justice system and a culture that's rigged against them." o Search You Tube for a short but terrific video by Rachel Lloyd titled: "The Making of a Girl." that shows U.S. pimp ensnarement tactics in a nutshell. o See Melissa Farley's website: www.prostitutionresearch.com and get her outstanding book: Prostitution and Trafficking in Nevada: Making the Connections." o Go to the website of www.polarisproject.org for info about Polaris's nationwide network to train volunteers to assist victims and the Polaris Hot Line to report suspected trafficking situations or for victims to get help. o Write or call your senators NOW and ask others to do so as well to urge Senate passage of the strong House version (H.3881- The Wilberforce Act) of the Trafficking Victims' Protection Reapportionment Act. There is a fierce fight going on in the Senate, led by Senators Biden and Brownback, to gut H.3881. The Biden-Brownback bill (S. 3061) would strip the TVPRA of the provisions most essential to its effective enforcement against traffickers and provide real help for victims. For more information, contact pbutler257@aol.com. S.3061 is supported very vocally by the Erotic Service Providers Union, i.e. the sexploitation nindustry. Need I say more? Because the IMDb description of the unfortunately titled but excellent film “Very Young Girls,” cited by Lara is so perfunctory and puerile, I am presuming to quote the review from the Onion’s AV Club and to add a few more suggestions to Lara’s for those interested in taking action against human trafficking – predominantly of women and girls.

o “Reviewed by Scott Tobias – July 3rd, 2008 – The Onion
So is it really all that hard out there for a pimp? Late in the powerful documentary Very Young Girls, Rachel Lloyd, a former prostitute and founder of a NYC non-profit that helps young streetwalkers regain control of their lives, receives an award for her efforts shortly after Three 6 Mafia collected an Academy Award for Best Song for Hustle & Flow. It’s a sobering moment: The Three 6 Mafia song (and the movie it represents) seems harmless enough, but that harmlessness points to a softened public perception of pimps that doesn’t jibe with the real deal. And that’s one of the many obstacles Lloyd has to face as she tries to wrest these damaged girls not just from their pimps, but also from a justice system and a culture that’s rigged against them.”

o Search You Tube for a short but terrific video by Rachel Lloyd titled: “The Making of a Girl.” that shows U.S. pimp ensnarement tactics in a nutshell.

o See Melissa Farley’s website: http://www.prostitutionresearch.com and get her outstanding book: Prostitution and Trafficking in Nevada: Making the Connections.”

o Go to the website of http://www.polarisproject.org for info about Polaris’s nationwide network to train volunteers to assist victims and the Polaris Hot Line to report suspected trafficking situations or for victims to get help.

o Write or call your senators NOW and ask others to do so as well to urge Senate passage of the strong House version (H.3881- The Wilberforce Act) of the Trafficking Victims’ Protection Reapportionment Act. There is a fierce fight going on in the Senate, led by Senators Biden and Brownback, to gut H.3881. The Biden-Brownback bill (S. 3061) would strip the TVPRA of the provisions most essential to its effective enforcement against traffickers and provide real help for victims. For more information, contact pbutler257@aol.com. S.3061 is supported very vocally by the Erotic Service Providers Union, i.e. the sexploitation nindustry. Need I say more?

]]> By: TP http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/rape-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124799 TP Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:34:53 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/01/sex-trafficking-interlude-with-peridot-ash/#comment-124799 Men are taught to love rape by the very idea of the girls sitting at home by the phone pining away to be called up for a date, which changes to the idea of going out and finding girls, to the idea of chasing girls, to the idea of making girls like you even if they seem to not like you back, then to the idea that you make a girl enjoy it by your insistence, and it all gets fulfilled and bolstered by actual dating experiences that are seen through this lens of active aggression. Hattie pointed out that these are men that pay to rape women because they don't want to go to jail. These men think they shouldn't ever have to go to jail for raping anyone. If the women wisely fakes an orgasm to get the creep off of her, he will always think of rape as a mutually beneficial experience. <b>Men think women like being raped.</b> There's the full horror of it for you. Men are taught to love rape by the very idea of the girls sitting at home by the phone pining away to be called up for a date, which changes to the idea of going out and finding girls, to the idea of chasing girls, to the idea of making girls like you even if they seem to not like you back, then to the idea that you make a girl enjoy it by your insistence, and it all gets fulfilled and bolstered by actual dating experiences that are seen through this lens of active aggression.

Hattie pointed out that these are men that pay to rape women because they don’t want to go to jail. These men think they shouldn’t ever have to go to jail for raping anyone. If the women wisely fakes
an orgasm to get the creep off of her, he will always think of rape as a mutually beneficial experience.

Men think women like being raped. There’s the full horror of it for you.

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