Comments on: No post today http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:22:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: slythwolf http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-126098 slythwolf Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:55:55 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-126098 <blockquote>interesting projects? is that secret code for projects done by mom?</blockquote> Hell no! What would be the fun in that? Why should I enjoy history class if my <i>mom</i> gets to make my scale replica of the pyramids?

interesting projects?

is that secret code for projects done by mom?

Hell no! What would be the fun in that? Why should I enjoy history class if my mom gets to make my scale replica of the pyramids?

]]> By: butterflywings http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-126086 butterflywings Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:48:10 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-126086 I agree with you, Sylvanite, re: the nudity taboo. However, the point is that this is pretty obvious racism. I am really not sure why they felt the need to use the word "indigenous" though. "Non-sexual nudity" or something would have done to indicate it wasn't porn if they had to say so. Of course it's only because we live in pornified world that all nudity is sexualised anyway. Yeah the National Geographic is "ooooh look at those weird primitive people!" - yet nudity occurs in white cultures e.g. Sweden, Germany, Denmark, Slovenia and so on where there is less of a nudity taboo, e.g. it's quite normal to go into the sauna naked. I agree with you, Sylvanite, re: the nudity taboo.
However, the point is that this is pretty obvious racism.
I am really not sure why they felt the need to use the word “indigenous” though. “Non-sexual nudity” or something would have done to indicate it wasn’t porn if they had to say so.

Of course it’s only because we live in pornified world that all nudity is sexualised anyway.

Yeah the National Geographic is “ooooh look at those weird primitive people!” – yet nudity occurs in white cultures e.g. Sweden, Germany, Denmark, Slovenia and so on where there is less of a nudity taboo, e.g. it’s quite normal to go into the sauna naked.

]]> By: Sylvanite http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125951 Sylvanite Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:08:46 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125951 Indigenous nudity is the difference between <i>Playboy</i> and <i>National Geographic</i>. I've never understood our nudity taboo. It would go a long way to reduce the pornification of the female form, I'm sure. Indigenous nudity is the difference between Playboy and National Geographic. I’ve never understood our nudity taboo. It would go a long way to reduce the pornification of the female form, I’m sure.

]]> By: Tarr http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125948 Tarr Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:42:46 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125948 More horse, less yak. More horse, less yak.

]]> By: keres http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125946 keres Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:24:09 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125946 And perhaps more to the point, this - <i>This is not a comment</i> - is not packing. How's that going, by the way. And perhaps more to the point, this – This is not a comment – is not packing.

How’s that going, by the way.

]]> By: Twisty http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125945 Twisty Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:00:48 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125945 This is not a comment. This is not a comment.

]]> By: Hattie http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125937 Hattie Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:20:57 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125937 Error: please type a comment Error: please type a comment

]]> By: Cycles http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125935 Cycles Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:11:42 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125935 Open thread? Cool! Then I submit this: one of my new favorite blogs, Language Log, covers a topic today that tangentially has to do with feminism. http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=479 <i>Caught on-screen in an episode (set in Namibia, a re-run from some years ago) of Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations, a travel-and-food television show: "This program contains indigenous nudity. Parental discretion is advised." It's a warning that there were be (female) breasts and (male) penises on display, though surely only fleetingly or out of the main focus of the camera, combined with the reassurance that the people whose bodies are (however negligently) on display are indigenous peoples — "primitives" and not "full people" like you and me, the viewers (or like Janet Jackson).</i> Good points. In the rest of the post, the blogger describes pseudo-adjectives and the use of "indigenous", and it's a fascinating discussion if you're into linguistics. But on to the feminism part: how interesting that the TV show felt the need to describe what kind of nudity was happening in the first place. I presume they added the modifier "indigenous" to point out that this was not the pornified, prurient kind of bodily display that is expected of, and used to shame, the sex class. Instead, "indigenous nudity" is just good ole wholesome nudity encountered as men and women who don't typically wear clothes go about their daily business. This makes it "better" nudity, "family-friendly" nudity, the kind that's less likely to drive away viewers. On the other hand, would "indigenous" nudity, when applied to dominant American cultures, be more like a Playboy spread? If you'd care to expound, I'd love to hear people's thoughts on "indigenous" nudity vs. other kinds of nudity, how this relates to feminism, how we analyze and make judgments about different kinds of nudity. Open thread? Cool! Then I submit this: one of my new favorite blogs, Language Log, covers a topic today that tangentially has to do with feminism.

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=479

Caught on-screen in an episode (set in Namibia, a re-run from some years ago) of Anthony Bourdain’s No Reservations, a travel-and-food television show:

“This program contains indigenous nudity. Parental discretion is advised.”

It’s a warning that there were be (female) breasts and (male) penises on display, though surely only fleetingly or out of the main focus of the camera, combined with the reassurance that the people whose bodies are (however negligently) on display are indigenous peoples — “primitives” and not “full people” like you and me, the viewers (or like Janet Jackson).

Good points. In the rest of the post, the blogger describes pseudo-adjectives and the use of “indigenous”, and it’s a fascinating discussion if you’re into linguistics.

But on to the feminism part: how interesting that the TV show felt the need to describe what kind of nudity was happening in the first place. I presume they added the modifier “indigenous” to point out that this was not the pornified, prurient kind of bodily display that is expected of, and used to shame, the sex class. Instead, “indigenous nudity” is just good ole wholesome nudity encountered as men and women who don’t typically wear clothes go about their daily business. This makes it “better” nudity, “family-friendly” nudity, the kind that’s less likely to drive away viewers.

On the other hand, would “indigenous” nudity, when applied to dominant American cultures, be more like a Playboy spread?

If you’d care to expound, I’d love to hear people’s thoughts on “indigenous” nudity vs. other kinds of nudity, how this relates to feminism, how we analyze and make judgments about different kinds of nudity.

]]> By: skyscraper http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125927 skyscraper Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:28:48 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125927 interesting projects? is that secret code for projects done by mom? interesting projects?

is that secret code for projects done by mom?

]]> By: slythwolf http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125923 slythwolf Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:50:41 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/08/12/no-post-today-4/#comment-125923 In my school system, Shelby, that only works out to one extra hour a day, and would never have been enough time to complete interesting projects. In my school system, Shelby, that only works out to one extra hour a day, and would never have been enough time to complete interesting projects.

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