Comments on: “New” feminism: plump, luscious, and kissable http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/ Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:41:36 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: I Read The Beauty Myth and Still Managed to Get Out of Bed in the Morning « L T M http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-148840 I Read The Beauty Myth and Still Managed to Get Out of Bed in the Morning « L T M Sun, 17 May 2009 00:27:55 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-148840 [...] about their bodies and about beauty is poignant—particularly in light of the horribly offensive “fun feminism” movement that says, “Equality is good, but can I also have Suicide Girls, pole-dancing [...] [...] about their bodies and about beauty is poignant—particularly in light of the horribly offensive “fun feminism” movement that says, “Equality is good, but can I also have Suicide Girls, pole-dancing [...]

]]> By: meerkat http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-139045 meerkat Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:33:43 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-139045 Hmm, I hate buying shoes and wearing dresses. Obviously someone forgot to issue me a penis. Hmm, I hate buying shoes and wearing dresses. Obviously someone forgot to issue me a penis.

]]> By: Kuleana http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138357 Kuleana Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:19:35 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138357 <i>"As a woman, you can’t not buy shoes and wear dresses."</i> Waaaahh?!? How is that endorsing CHOICE?!? You're a woman, therefore you MUST buy dresses and shoes? What if I CHOOSE not to? Are they gonna revoke my woman card? “As a woman, you can’t not buy shoes and wear dresses.”

Waaaahh?!? How is that endorsing CHOICE?!? You’re a woman, therefore you MUST buy dresses and shoes? What if I CHOOSE not to? Are they gonna revoke my woman card?

]]> By: Kate http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138236 Kate Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:34:54 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138236 Can I just say... you are my favorite spinster aunt. It's so great reading you again. Can I just say… you are my favorite spinster aunt. It’s so great reading you again.

]]> By: sarahcl http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138185 sarahcl Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:38:00 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138185 I think the 'wave' definitions apply more to the type of feminism than to the age of the feminist, they are simply numbered according to the order in which they appeared. I am under 30, but would call myself a second wave feminist (if we are talking waves - radical feminist is the most accurate description), as that wave of the feminist movement best describes my feminism. I think the ‘wave’ definitions apply more to the type of feminism than to the age of the feminist, they are simply numbered according to the order in which they appeared.

I am under 30, but would call myself a second wave feminist (if we are talking waves – radical feminist is the most accurate description), as that wave of the feminist movement best describes my feminism.

]]> By: Genevieve http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138167 Genevieve Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:42:44 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138167 <i>Brilliant. I will call Third Wavers patriarchists.</i> Donna Darko-- As is evidenced from the multitudes of young feminists commenting here, I wouldn't be too quick to do so if I were you. The Third Wave is pretty huge, and very few of the feminists I know fit this "we're not bra-burners, we're cute, shoes are feminist!" stereotype. Doesn't mean that some of them don't engage in patriarchy-supporting behaviors (very few people <i>don't</i>), but they don't try to excuse their actions as, "this is my choice! Therefore it's feminist! Tee hee!" There's a line there. Most third wavers know where it is. It's sad that these "feminists" are the ones being profiled. Oh, and I love Jess McCabe's site, and she isn't at all like these other girls. Brilliant. I will call Third Wavers patriarchists.

Donna Darko–
As is evidenced from the multitudes of young feminists commenting here, I wouldn’t be too quick to do so if I were you. The Third Wave is pretty huge, and very few of the feminists I know fit this “we’re not bra-burners, we’re cute, shoes are feminist!” stereotype. Doesn’t mean that some of them don’t engage in patriarchy-supporting behaviors (very few people don’t), but they don’t try to excuse their actions as, “this is my choice! Therefore it’s feminist! Tee hee!” There’s a line there. Most third wavers know where it is. It’s sad that these “feminists” are the ones being profiled.

Oh, and I love Jess McCabe’s site, and she isn’t at all like these other girls.

]]> By: Jezebella http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138131 Jezebella Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:53:06 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138131 I am going to take a radical stance. I, for one, find it difficult to resist owning shoes. Which, as I am not a cobbler, involves buying them. I occasionally enjoy entering establishments which sell food and drink, and sometimes it's cold or muddy outside. So, you know, SHOES. I buy them. I am going to take a radical stance. I, for one, find it difficult to resist owning shoes. Which, as I am not a cobbler, involves buying them. I occasionally enjoy entering establishments which sell food and drink, and sometimes it’s cold or muddy outside. So, you know, SHOES. I buy them.

]]> By: Cathy http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138096 Cathy Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:22:22 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138096 Why are they calling themselves feminists at all? I thought feminist was a dirty word. Are they trying to help us by removing the stigma from the word, or are they the type who enjoy flinging around obscenities to show how cool they are? Maybe they're just too clueless to realize feminism means helping women, not just themselves. I don't blame them - I've been an unwitting tool, also, though not to such depths. It's sad that the P can so easily keep us down. Why are they calling themselves feminists at all? I thought feminist was a dirty word. Are they trying to help us by removing the stigma from the word, or are they the type who enjoy flinging around obscenities to show how cool they are?

Maybe they’re just too clueless to realize feminism means helping women, not just themselves. I don’t blame them – I’ve been an unwitting tool, also, though not to such depths. It’s sad that the P can so easily keep us down.

]]> By: Arwyn http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138068 Arwyn Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:24:08 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-138068 Apart from the tell-tale use of "girl", this wasn't too bad: “We despise Cosmo and Heat. They broadcast a fascination with getting boyfriends, getting married, make-up, appearance and gossip that appeal to the least desirable parts of our emotional spectrum — jealously, gossip and being mean. And that’s not what we care about. Being a girl isn’t like that for us.” But then came this: “As a woman, you can’t not buy shoes and wear dresses. Plus all of that stuff is fun — it doesn’t take away from your power as a woman.” and I get the urge to find a rocket launcher and go on a rampage (except I wouldn't, being a pacifist and all, and recognizing that the urge is probably patriarchal at root), not so much at them (though that, too, especially for that use of "girl") but on their behalf. They believe you "can't not", but don't see how their choices are being constrained, how this is an act supporting (and dictated by) patriarchy? I fear for my generation, I really do. (I would wholeheartedly adopt the use of Feminettes, but I attempt to discredit the system without insulting its victims. It's still tempting, though...) Apart from the tell-tale use of “girl”, this wasn’t too bad:

“We despise Cosmo and Heat. They broadcast a fascination with getting boyfriends, getting married, make-up, appearance and gossip that appeal to the least desirable parts of our emotional spectrum — jealously, gossip and being mean. And that’s not what we care about. Being a girl isn’t like that for us.”

But then came this:

“As a woman, you can’t not buy shoes and wear dresses. Plus all of that stuff is fun — it doesn’t take away from your power as a woman.”

and I get the urge to find a rocket launcher and go on a rampage (except I wouldn’t, being a pacifist and all, and recognizing that the urge is probably patriarchal at root), not so much at them (though that, too, especially for that use of “girl”) but on their behalf. They believe you “can’t not”, but don’t see how their choices are being constrained, how this is an act supporting (and dictated by) patriarchy?

I fear for my generation, I really do.

(I would wholeheartedly adopt the use of Feminettes, but I attempt to discredit the system without insulting its victims. It’s still tempting, though…)

]]> By: twistbarbie http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-137917 twistbarbie Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:09:27 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2008/12/25/new-feminism-plump-luscious-and-kissable/#comment-137917 @angryyoungfemme- Hi there! I am a 24yr ol' rad fem in the Seattle area! I find it lonely as well around here and would also be willin' to travel for a sense-talkin meet up! I blame, oh how I blame! @angryyoungfemme- Hi there! I am a 24yr ol’ rad fem in the Seattle area! I find it lonely as well around here and would also be willin’ to travel for a sense-talkin meet up! I blame, oh how I blame!

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