Actually, Emma Goldman was the “fun feminist” of her day, being a proponent of “free love”. See, for example, the personal/political conflict between her and Lucy Parsons.
Of course, they would have gotten along fine if it weren’t for the patriarchy.
narya
January 9, 2009 at 1:45 pm (UTC -6)
Part of the reason EG was a proponent of free love was because she recognized the patriarchal aspects of marriage. So, no, I don’t think she’s a “fun feminist.”
As a proud funfeminist, I thought it was damn good.
FatWhiteMaleEngineerHumanist
January 10, 2009 at 6:28 am (UTC -6)
I guess it is meant in fun, but to be honest I do not like the graffiti on Goldman’s picture. It certainly isn’t respectful, and there’s an element of personal attack about it. The focus of the defacement of her picture is her physical appearance. She was not “cute” or “sexy” as those terms are commonly understood today. She was courageous and influential.
Humor is good; it attracts new adherents and is a great way to pass on information. The information should be more useful, though, than: “Emma Goldman will never appear on Baywatch”.
Very few successful movements piss on their fabled early adopters.
The humor, FatWhiteMaleEngineerHumanist, lies in the absurdity of the idea of Emma Goldman (and by extension, any female person) as a sparkly pole-dancin’ funfeminist. The joke-butt, therefore, is the funfeminist lifestyle, not Emma Goldman.
But jokes always lose something when you try to explain’em.
yttik
January 10, 2009 at 11:08 am (UTC -6)
Speaking of jokes, MS magazine has truly lost it. Their special inaugural issue has a picture of Obama as superman, with the words “this is what a feminist looks like”. Forty years of fighting for equality and I come to discover that I can’t even be a feminist because I lack a penis.
But hey, in the fun-feminist theme, the mag comes with a free 8 by 10 glossy that they girls can hang on their wall next to their posters of movie stars. He’s just so dreamy. And if you’re a real good girl, we’ll let you emulate the first lady’s fashion. She’s just so Jackie. Those are women’s issues, aren’t they? Fashion and 8 by ten glossies?
Speaking of Jackie, wow what grace under fire, literally, but who in their right mind would ever want to idolize the horrors Jackie went thru?
Gayle
January 10, 2009 at 11:54 am (UTC -6)
Actually, Emma Goldman was the “fun feminist” of her day, being a proponent of “free love”.
Maybe the seeming disagreement here is between “fun” understood as “Emma had a fun day today, what with all the orgasms” as contrasted with “Emma’s sexual labor provided a lot of fun for the men who purchased or otherwise laid claim to it.”
Dykonoclast
January 10, 2009 at 6:11 pm (UTC -6)
ambiguouslynamed seems not to have grasped the nature of the conflict between Emma Goldman and Lucy Parsons. I love both of them, but Parsons was all about wifehood and femininity. While going on national speaking tours to save her husband’s life and those of their comrades, she sold herself hardcore as feminine, as womanly, as a mother, as a wife, pathos to the max. Goldman had some pretty valid reasons for not liking Parsons, which I’ll not go into here, just as Parsons had valid reasons not to like Goldman.
FatWhiteMaleEngineerHumanist
January 12, 2009 at 5:00 am (UTC -6)
Twisty said: “The joke-butt, therefore, is the funfeminist lifestyle, not Emma Goldman.”
I’m sorry I got it wrong; thank you for the help!
This reminds me of the New Yorker cover depicting Barack and Michelle Obama as terrorists, bumping fists in the oval office. The cover is a good example of ironic humor that a lot of people took literally, missing the joke.
Enough. I’ll take the bullet: I’m humor-challenged.
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19 comments
octopod
January 9, 2009 at 11:55 am (UTC -6)
AAAAAH! My brain!
ambiguouslynamed
January 9, 2009 at 12:01 pm (UTC -6)
Actually, Emma Goldman was the “fun feminist” of her day, being a proponent of “free love”. See, for example, the personal/political conflict between her and Lucy Parsons.
Of course, they would have gotten along fine if it weren’t for the patriarchy.
narya
January 9, 2009 at 1:45 pm (UTC -6)
Part of the reason EG was a proponent of free love was because she recognized the patriarchal aspects of marriage. So, no, I don’t think she’s a “fun feminist.”
thebewilderness
January 9, 2009 at 2:55 pm (UTC -6)
Thanks, I needed that.
Claire (CJ)
January 9, 2009 at 6:19 pm (UTC -6)
I don’t know if this was meant to be funny, but it sure made me stifle a giggle.
Funfeminism makes our dead foremothers cry.
CJ (Claire).
Shambles
January 9, 2009 at 6:50 pm (UTC -6)
Oh man, I remember making that. My soul died in the process.
Rest assured Claire it was intended to be funny! I’m only semi-looney.
Looking back now, I regret leaving out the dancing Snoop Dogs.
Distingué Traces
January 9, 2009 at 8:44 pm (UTC -6)
“Fun feminist” = “fails to recognize the patriarchal aspects of marriage”?
Since when is patriarchal marriage fun?
Natalia
January 10, 2009 at 5:26 am (UTC -6)
LOOOOOOOOL.
As a proud funfeminist, I thought it was damn good.
FatWhiteMaleEngineerHumanist
January 10, 2009 at 6:28 am (UTC -6)
I guess it is meant in fun, but to be honest I do not like the graffiti on Goldman’s picture. It certainly isn’t respectful, and there’s an element of personal attack about it. The focus of the defacement of her picture is her physical appearance. She was not “cute” or “sexy” as those terms are commonly understood today. She was courageous and influential.
Humor is good; it attracts new adherents and is a great way to pass on information. The information should be more useful, though, than: “Emma Goldman will never appear on Baywatch”.
Very few successful movements piss on their fabled early adopters.
David
Twisty
January 10, 2009 at 8:42 am (UTC -6)
The humor, FatWhiteMaleEngineerHumanist, lies in the absurdity of the idea of Emma Goldman (and by extension, any female person) as a sparkly pole-dancin’ funfeminist. The joke-butt, therefore, is the funfeminist lifestyle, not Emma Goldman.
But jokes always lose something when you try to explain’em.
yttik
January 10, 2009 at 11:08 am (UTC -6)
Speaking of jokes, MS magazine has truly lost it. Their special inaugural issue has a picture of Obama as superman, with the words “this is what a feminist looks like”. Forty years of fighting for equality and I come to discover that I can’t even be a feminist because I lack a penis.
But hey, in the fun-feminist theme, the mag comes with a free 8 by 10 glossy that they girls can hang on their wall next to their posters of movie stars. He’s just so dreamy. And if you’re a real good girl, we’ll let you emulate the first lady’s fashion. She’s just so Jackie. Those are women’s issues, aren’t they? Fashion and 8 by ten glossies?
Speaking of Jackie, wow what grace under fire, literally, but who in their right mind would ever want to idolize the horrors Jackie went thru?
Gayle
January 10, 2009 at 11:54 am (UTC -6)
Actually, Emma Goldman was the “fun feminist” of her day, being a proponent of “free love”.
She also advocated dancing!
Distingué Traces
January 10, 2009 at 1:55 pm (UTC -6)
Maybe the seeming disagreement here is between “fun” understood as “Emma had a fun day today, what with all the orgasms” as contrasted with “Emma’s sexual labor provided a lot of fun for the men who purchased or otherwise laid claim to it.”
Dykonoclast
January 10, 2009 at 6:11 pm (UTC -6)
ambiguouslynamed seems not to have grasped the nature of the conflict between Emma Goldman and Lucy Parsons. I love both of them, but Parsons was all about wifehood and femininity. While going on national speaking tours to save her husband’s life and those of their comrades, she sold herself hardcore as feminine, as womanly, as a mother, as a wife, pathos to the max. Goldman had some pretty valid reasons for not liking Parsons, which I’ll not go into here, just as Parsons had valid reasons not to like Goldman.
FatWhiteMaleEngineerHumanist
January 12, 2009 at 5:00 am (UTC -6)
Twisty said: “The joke-butt, therefore, is the funfeminist lifestyle, not Emma Goldman.”
I’m sorry I got it wrong; thank you for the help!
This reminds me of the New Yorker cover depicting Barack and Michelle Obama as terrorists, bumping fists in the oval office. The cover is a good example of ironic humor that a lot of people took literally, missing the joke.
Enough. I’ll take the bullet: I’m humor-challenged.
Only nine more days of Bush!
David
slythwolf
January 12, 2009 at 5:26 pm (UTC -6)
Hi David! Thanks for popping in and telling us wimmins how to do feminism! We shore appreciate it, what with us lacking in Fresh Manly Wisdom and all!
VinaigretteGirl
January 13, 2009 at 5:27 am (UTC -6)
I prefer my ironically-funfeminist graffiti to be better executed but expertise-loving is patriarchal. Point made, though, albeit with a bludgeon.
Antoinette Niebieszczanski
January 13, 2009 at 10:11 am (UTC -6)
I especially liked the jaunty little bow in her hair.
Craroline
January 13, 2009 at 10:10 pm (UTC -6)
Hilarious!