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		<title>By: Christina Eater</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/05/21/enterprising-teens-use-technology-to-totally-screw-themselves-over/#comment-167646</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina Eater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A year and change late to this party. Citizen Jane&#039;s very first post (#comment-149073) totes made me want to post a naked picture to my website, just because I should be able to. Not a pornulated or &quot;artsy&quot; picture, just a boring snapshot of me being a human being who happens to be female and happens to not be wearing clothes. I have a feeling I&#039;ll regret it if I do it, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A year and change late to this party. Citizen Jane&#8217;s very first post (#comment-149073) totes made me want to post a naked picture to my website, just because I should be able to. Not a pornulated or &#8220;artsy&#8221; picture, just a boring snapshot of me being a human being who happens to be female and happens to not be wearing clothes. I have a feeling I&#8217;ll regret it if I do it, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi LeoDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandi LeoDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 02:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy frijoles I LOVE that photograph. Oh,and what, WE didn&#039;t take Polaroids of ourselves nekkid back in the day?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy frijoles I LOVE that photograph. Oh,and what, WE didn&#8217;t take Polaroids of ourselves nekkid back in the day?</p>
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		<title>By: Frumious B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frumious B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 02:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach, it might help you know how to respond if you learn a little about the bystander and enabler roles.  Loosely, there are the actual douchebags encouraging girls to make out with each other for male pleasure.  There are the enablers who don&#039;t actually try to get girls to make out, but who make sure there is plenty of alcohol to loosen everybody up.  Then there are the bystanders who don&#039;t play any active role, but who stand around watching and not trying to stop anything.  You can&#039;t really stop a douche from being douchy.  Enablers are tough, b/c they provide alcohol for boys and girls who want to make out for their own pleasure, too.  But the bystander role can be broken.  You can disapprove without confronting either the douches or the girls, and give tacit permission to other dudes who are not comfortable to leave or also speak up.  If you can tell which dudes are uncomfortable, you can say something to them.  It&#039;s tough to speak up, but you sound like you are up for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach, it might help you know how to respond if you learn a little about the bystander and enabler roles.  Loosely, there are the actual douchebags encouraging girls to make out with each other for male pleasure.  There are the enablers who don&#8217;t actually try to get girls to make out, but who make sure there is plenty of alcohol to loosen everybody up.  Then there are the bystanders who don&#8217;t play any active role, but who stand around watching and not trying to stop anything.  You can&#8217;t really stop a douche from being douchy.  Enablers are tough, b/c they provide alcohol for boys and girls who want to make out for their own pleasure, too.  But the bystander role can be broken.  You can disapprove without confronting either the douches or the girls, and give tacit permission to other dudes who are not comfortable to leave or also speak up.  If you can tell which dudes are uncomfortable, you can say something to them.  It&#8217;s tough to speak up, but you sound like you are up for it.</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If I feel brave enough, I walk away, muttering in a clear voice that I would gladly make out with one of the dudely onlookers for her benefit, should she like. The horror of a potential gay moment usually disrupts the fun of it for them, even if only briefly.&lt;/i&gt;

How about propositioning the onlookers outright?

Or would that be safe? I only went to one party in college, so I don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If I feel brave enough, I walk away, muttering in a clear voice that I would gladly make out with one of the dudely onlookers for her benefit, should she like. The horror of a potential gay moment usually disrupts the fun of it for them, even if only briefly.</i></p>
<p>How about propositioning the onlookers outright?</p>
<p>Or would that be safe? I only went to one party in college, so I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Agasaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agasaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 13:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Sexting

Why is it impinging on female adolescent rights to simply let them know that it is illegal to distribute pictures of nude minors, including themselves?  Simple enough rule to learn while larger concepts are being taught.  Those concepts? Perhaps that sexuality is a natural celebration of the body that doesn&#039;t really involve souvenir trading.  Or that such celebrations are best left between trusted individuals who don&#039;t require tangible proof of &#039;the deed&#039; to share with sixty of their dearest fellow schmucks.  

Rules exist to reduce the damage done by poor judgment before individual responsibility sets in via maturation and/or education.   Someone noted they disciplined two youngsters for making out in the hallway during class time. That was about their poor judgment as to time and place, not their actions per se and it was handled without attempting to shame those kids.  Hopefully, someone will be helping kids to sort out the cultural train wreck that dictates so much of their sexual lives over their lifetimes.  But initially?  It&#039;s about context and restricting opportunities for mistakes to be made.  These are children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Sexting</p>
<p>Why is it impinging on female adolescent rights to simply let them know that it is illegal to distribute pictures of nude minors, including themselves?  Simple enough rule to learn while larger concepts are being taught.  Those concepts? Perhaps that sexuality is a natural celebration of the body that doesn&#8217;t really involve souvenir trading.  Or that such celebrations are best left between trusted individuals who don&#8217;t require tangible proof of &#8216;the deed&#8217; to share with sixty of their dearest fellow schmucks.  </p>
<p>Rules exist to reduce the damage done by poor judgment before individual responsibility sets in via maturation and/or education.   Someone noted they disciplined two youngsters for making out in the hallway during class time. That was about their poor judgment as to time and place, not their actions per se and it was handled without attempting to shame those kids.  Hopefully, someone will be helping kids to sort out the cultural train wreck that dictates so much of their sexual lives over their lifetimes.  But initially?  It&#8217;s about context and restricting opportunities for mistakes to be made.  These are children.</p>
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		<title>By: Agasaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agasaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 13:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Zach,

When you witness the potential for individuals to be harmed, it&#039;s a pretty good bet that the first thing you do is not search out the nearest tome on “How to Rescue a Female in a Politically Correct Manner”.   Zach, this isn&#039;t about rescuing women or even about feminism.

It&#039;s about acting like a mensch.  That&#039;s the closest word in my vocabulary to the ideal of a fully evolved individual of any gender.    In order to take positive action, it is not necessary to hop on a soapbox.  When faced with a  mass demonstration of adolescent idiocy, standing by dumbly leads to desensitization on your part and tacit acceptance by others of your position in boydom.  But walking out doesn&#039;t necessarily satisfy your &#039;menschdom&#039;, either.

Those aren&#039;t simply girls or women about to damage themselves for the sake of acceptance by the Children of the Damned.  Those females have names.  Find out so they begin to remember their  own individuality.  A soft question asked in a non-demonstrative manner: “What is your name?  And yours?”  Follow that up with, “Trudy, Sara – would you like to leave and find someplace else to really enjoy the evening without risking your safety?  I&#039;ll call you a cab or one of your friends to pick you up.  I&#039;m also leaving.”  Make it clear you aren&#039;t trying to spirit them away yourself nor are you impressed with the impending show.

Anyone in distress is an individual first and a member of another class secondarily.  Offer help where you can without worrying if someone will be offended by it. Worse case scenario?  You were wrong and they get pissed at you.  Best case scenario?  Someone doesn&#039;t know the way out of a jam and you provide the carfare out of that war zone.  

Either way, you make learn to define yourself and can act in situations making you uncomfortable before you work out the terms and concepts which make it seem wrong to you.  Those  around you will ask you for your reasoning at some point if in fact they notice or care.  Action is the best statement to make.  Have a second choice of destination available to you each time you enter a social situation that may turn into a test of character. Teach by example and show that  you&#039;d rather be at a movie; another party or writing a paper.  It&#039;s about looking in the mirror tomorrow and helping someone else to do the same.  It isn&#039;t about being PC there or here.  Feminism is logic and common sense. Its hard to violate that by logical actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zach,</p>
<p>When you witness the potential for individuals to be harmed, it&#8217;s a pretty good bet that the first thing you do is not search out the nearest tome on “How to Rescue a Female in a Politically Correct Manner”.   Zach, this isn&#8217;t about rescuing women or even about feminism.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about acting like a mensch.  That&#8217;s the closest word in my vocabulary to the ideal of a fully evolved individual of any gender.    In order to take positive action, it is not necessary to hop on a soapbox.  When faced with a  mass demonstration of adolescent idiocy, standing by dumbly leads to desensitization on your part and tacit acceptance by others of your position in boydom.  But walking out doesn&#8217;t necessarily satisfy your &#8216;menschdom&#8217;, either.</p>
<p>Those aren&#8217;t simply girls or women about to damage themselves for the sake of acceptance by the Children of the Damned.  Those females have names.  Find out so they begin to remember their  own individuality.  A soft question asked in a non-demonstrative manner: “What is your name?  And yours?”  Follow that up with, “Trudy, Sara – would you like to leave and find someplace else to really enjoy the evening without risking your safety?  I&#8217;ll call you a cab or one of your friends to pick you up.  I&#8217;m also leaving.”  Make it clear you aren&#8217;t trying to spirit them away yourself nor are you impressed with the impending show.</p>
<p>Anyone in distress is an individual first and a member of another class secondarily.  Offer help where you can without worrying if someone will be offended by it. Worse case scenario?  You were wrong and they get pissed at you.  Best case scenario?  Someone doesn&#8217;t know the way out of a jam and you provide the carfare out of that war zone.  </p>
<p>Either way, you make learn to define yourself and can act in situations making you uncomfortable before you work out the terms and concepts which make it seem wrong to you.  Those  around you will ask you for your reasoning at some point if in fact they notice or care.  Action is the best statement to make.  Have a second choice of destination available to you each time you enter a social situation that may turn into a test of character. Teach by example and show that  you&#8217;d rather be at a movie; another party or writing a paper.  It&#8217;s about looking in the mirror tomorrow and helping someone else to do the same.  It isn&#8217;t about being PC there or here.  Feminism is logic and common sense. Its hard to violate that by logical actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Lara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 12:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly said:
&lt;i&gt;You create and distribute images of yourself to be used as fodder for male, masturbatory, rape fantasies and then you are grossed out that someone is using them for that purpose? So dirty old men are different (or worse?) than dirty men of other ages? Or does she believe that her boyfriend and his friends aren’t somehow dirty but these other men are?&lt;/i&gt;

Funny how when adult women are assaulted, harassed, and attacked by men and boys all of us Blametariat whole-heartedly defend the women, but when it comes to &lt;i&gt;teenage&lt;/i&gt; girls being harassed and objectified and taunted as &quot;sluts&quot; some of us claim &quot;they should have known better!&quot;  &quot;Of course those boys are going to pass their photos around, what were those stupid little girls thinking??!&quot;  How could we?  Do we literally not see how age, as well as gender or sex, is used as a way to give older folks power over younger folks?  The fact of the matter is that the young boy or boys who distributed this girl&#039;s photos for wanking or revenge (or both) should be held responsible.  The adult males who relish in their slut-shaming of this poor young woman should also be held to task for their misogyny.  I have been sexually harassed by both male classmates in highschool, as well as the male highschool principal (who always used to make a point of yelling at me in the crowded major hallway about how the tops I wore were supposedly too low-cut or revealing...then stop staring at my tits, asshole!).  The harassment at the hands of both young men or boys and older adult males with authority power is all part of the same system: the Patriarchy!  So fuck those stupid boys who distributed that girl&#039;s photos, fuck the damned older male school authorities for slut-shaming and further harassing the girl, and to hell with some of us feminists blaming or scolding girls for BOYS&#039; behavior.  We should be ashamed of ourselves for our ageism and misogyny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly said:<br />
<i>You create and distribute images of yourself to be used as fodder for male, masturbatory, rape fantasies and then you are grossed out that someone is using them for that purpose? So dirty old men are different (or worse?) than dirty men of other ages? Or does she believe that her boyfriend and his friends aren’t somehow dirty but these other men are?</i></p>
<p>Funny how when adult women are assaulted, harassed, and attacked by men and boys all of us Blametariat whole-heartedly defend the women, but when it comes to <i>teenage</i> girls being harassed and objectified and taunted as &#8220;sluts&#8221; some of us claim &#8220;they should have known better!&#8221;  &#8220;Of course those boys are going to pass their photos around, what were those stupid little girls thinking??!&#8221;  How could we?  Do we literally not see how age, as well as gender or sex, is used as a way to give older folks power over younger folks?  The fact of the matter is that the young boy or boys who distributed this girl&#8217;s photos for wanking or revenge (or both) should be held responsible.  The adult males who relish in their slut-shaming of this poor young woman should also be held to task for their misogyny.  I have been sexually harassed by both male classmates in highschool, as well as the male highschool principal (who always used to make a point of yelling at me in the crowded major hallway about how the tops I wore were supposedly too low-cut or revealing&#8230;then stop staring at my tits, asshole!).  The harassment at the hands of both young men or boys and older adult males with authority power is all part of the same system: the Patriarchy!  So fuck those stupid boys who distributed that girl&#8217;s photos, fuck the damned older male school authorities for slut-shaming and further harassing the girl, and to hell with some of us feminists blaming or scolding girls for BOYS&#8217; behavior.  We should be ashamed of ourselves for our ageism and misogyny!</p>
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		<title>By: Kuleana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kuleana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 01:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;When the principal finds out, the teacher submits his resignation, then gets a job at another school.&lt;/i&gt;

Or, if it&#039;s like my old high school, the principal knows a teacher is a child molester, loathes him to the depths of his soul, but can&#039;t fire him because the goddamned school board likes the teacher in question due to his ability to lead the jazz ensemble to many awards. When the school had an addition put on, the principal did somehow get this teacher&#039;s office to have three glass walls, I shit you not. This, of course, didn&#039;t stop Mr. Totally Douchey director from having the girls in the colorguard give him neck rubs while he worked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>When the principal finds out, the teacher submits his resignation, then gets a job at another school.</i></p>
<p>Or, if it&#8217;s like my old high school, the principal knows a teacher is a child molester, loathes him to the depths of his soul, but can&#8217;t fire him because the goddamned school board likes the teacher in question due to his ability to lead the jazz ensemble to many awards. When the school had an addition put on, the principal did somehow get this teacher&#8217;s office to have three glass walls, I shit you not. This, of course, didn&#8217;t stop Mr. Totally Douchey director from having the girls in the colorguard give him neck rubs while he worked.</p>
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		<title>By: Kuleana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kuleana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 01:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Zach, if you’re not willing to leave the parties, you could at least tell the rapey dudes they’re douchebags.&lt;/i&gt;

Or sneak laxatives into their drinks. There&#039;ve gotta be some liquid laxatives that don&#039;t leave much of a taste, right? Plus then those rancid dudes will be on the shitter all night rather than out and about harassing women.

Also, I was thinking the exact same thing re: making a law that you own any naked images of yourself. Then, when things like this happen, criminal charges could of course still apply, &lt;i&gt;plus&lt;/i&gt; you could sue the living bejezus out of anyone who does anything with your naked pictures without your permission. That way there wouldn&#039;t be this goddamn arguing over whether it is or is not okay for men to make porn out of images of women who weren&#039;t aware they were being filmed or consented to being filmed but not having it put all over the Internet. If the dude or whoever&#039;s distributing the pictures isn&#039;t able to produce obviously legitimate, signed original forms in which the person depicted stated under precisely what terms their image could be reproduced and distributed, they face criminal charges and any money they&#039;ve made goes automatically to the victim. 

AND those forms should be signed at the beginning and end of any &quot;project&quot; so that there can&#039;t be any twist at the end that the person being filmed wouldn&#039;t want used or didn&#039;t consent to, like those videos that I think are filmed in Florida where guys in cars get women to consent to being filmed for some vile little porn series, promising the women money to do sexual things with them, and then they dump the women out of the car after filming without the promised payment. If there&#039;s not an end-of-project consent form, in which the project is finished and the person depicted has seen exactly how it will look when distributed, then they&#039;re still in violation. 

(Of course what we really need is a society where men don&#039;t see women&#039;s bodies as things to be exploited and automatically sexualized, but absent that I&#039;d like to punish the fuck out of anybody who exploits society&#039;s hatred and fetishization of our bodies for their personal gain.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Zach, if you’re not willing to leave the parties, you could at least tell the rapey dudes they’re douchebags.</i></p>
<p>Or sneak laxatives into their drinks. There&#8217;ve gotta be some liquid laxatives that don&#8217;t leave much of a taste, right? Plus then those rancid dudes will be on the shitter all night rather than out and about harassing women.</p>
<p>Also, I was thinking the exact same thing re: making a law that you own any naked images of yourself. Then, when things like this happen, criminal charges could of course still apply, <i>plus</i> you could sue the living bejezus out of anyone who does anything with your naked pictures without your permission. That way there wouldn&#8217;t be this goddamn arguing over whether it is or is not okay for men to make porn out of images of women who weren&#8217;t aware they were being filmed or consented to being filmed but not having it put all over the Internet. If the dude or whoever&#8217;s distributing the pictures isn&#8217;t able to produce obviously legitimate, signed original forms in which the person depicted stated under precisely what terms their image could be reproduced and distributed, they face criminal charges and any money they&#8217;ve made goes automatically to the victim. </p>
<p>AND those forms should be signed at the beginning and end of any &#8220;project&#8221; so that there can&#8217;t be any twist at the end that the person being filmed wouldn&#8217;t want used or didn&#8217;t consent to, like those videos that I think are filmed in Florida where guys in cars get women to consent to being filmed for some vile little porn series, promising the women money to do sexual things with them, and then they dump the women out of the car after filming without the promised payment. If there&#8217;s not an end-of-project consent form, in which the project is finished and the person depicted has seen exactly how it will look when distributed, then they&#8217;re still in violation. </p>
<p>(Of course what we really need is a society where men don&#8217;t see women&#8217;s bodies as things to be exploited and automatically sexualized, but absent that I&#8217;d like to punish the fuck out of anybody who exploits society&#8217;s hatred and fetishization of our bodies for their personal gain.)</p>
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		<title>By: xochitl</title>
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		<dc:creator>xochitl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 02:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Whereas grown men can get away with harassing and assaulting girls on the basis that they’re &#039;such a nice man, a good and decent man, and upstanding pillar of the community, and would never do anything like that, so she must be making it up or was asking for it, the lying little slut&#039;.&quot;

When grown men abuse female students it is not even made public.  When the principal finds out, the teacher submits his resignation, then gets a job at another school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Whereas grown men can get away with harassing and assaulting girls on the basis that they’re &#8217;such a nice man, a good and decent man, and upstanding pillar of the community, and would never do anything like that, so she must be making it up or was asking for it, the lying little slut&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
<p>When grown men abuse female students it is not even made public.  When the principal finds out, the teacher submits his resignation, then gets a job at another school.</p>
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