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		<title>By: jami</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/06/21/classic-knob-comment-of-the-week/#comment-151358</link>
		<dc:creator>jami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for moderating.  This blog would be a much different place (where everyone argued only with the first troll to show up) if comments like that went through by default.  I hope the amusement somewhat makes up for the horror at having to read them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for moderating.  This blog would be a much different place (where everyone argued only with the first troll to show up) if comments like that went through by default.  I hope the amusement somewhat makes up for the horror at having to read them all.</p>
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		<title>By: Agasaya</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/06/21/classic-knob-comment-of-the-week/#comment-151306</link>
		<dc:creator>Agasaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarification for above statement:

&lt;i&gt;Americans are able to be employed full-time and still wind up below the poverty line. That is what happens when people of bad character become highly educated.&lt;/i&gt;

Someone emailed me and said they thought I was stating that uneducated people had &#039;bad character&#039; traits. No, I was stating that people are deprived of their opportunities for living wages and good educations BY those highly educated bad characters who feel their prosperity is only attainable if others are deprived of their chances to achieve it. 

Women don&#039;t prosper in a climate of desperation and ignorance where the status quo is clung to with even greater tenacity than usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarification for above statement:</p>
<p><i>Americans are able to be employed full-time and still wind up below the poverty line. That is what happens when people of bad character become highly educated.</i></p>
<p>Someone emailed me and said they thought I was stating that uneducated people had &#8216;bad character&#8217; traits. No, I was stating that people are deprived of their opportunities for living wages and good educations BY those highly educated bad characters who feel their prosperity is only attainable if others are deprived of their chances to achieve it. </p>
<p>Women don&#8217;t prosper in a climate of desperation and ignorance where the status quo is clung to with even greater tenacity than usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Agasaya</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/06/21/classic-knob-comment-of-the-week/#comment-151296</link>
		<dc:creator>Agasaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana,

There aren&#039;t many high school drop-outs forming successful corporations these days and you can no longer just take a proficiency test to become a member of the bar.  The education of women is what allows some of us to lead independent lives, rather than be forced into marriage and motherhood.  The education of some men is what led to women obtaining even the limited permissions and opportunities present for us today.  No one working the register at Walmart is going to have a big impact upon society but has a great likelihood of winding up on a section 8 voucher as one of the &#039;perks&#039; of having a lower echelon job. Americans are able to be employed full-time and still wind up below the poverty line. That is what happens when people of bad character become highly educated.


For the rest, in brief, there is a time limit in which the basic neurological structures and functions must develop for future learning.  Experience coupled with social interaction is actually observable in the degree to which the cerebral cortex acquires larger surface areas for function.  Language must develop by about 4 or 5 if it is to be a viable system for learning and expression.  However, literacy is often better left to formal instruction later in childhood. Scandinavians enjoy full literacy and don&#039;t begin teaching reading until verbal language skills have been well established around age seven. We keep screwing up when we pound phonics into the heads of kids who can&#039;t even retell a simple story.  

I used to work in the field of developmental disabilities and speech pathology. I can no longer work because &#039;educated&#039; people of bad character have convinced the uneducated masses (of mixed characters) that the use of poisons is perfectly harmless and only genetically inferior people can be harmed by them.  Yet, one in six of our children have disabilities today.  No amount of education can overcome those odds.  Only an educated individual can tell one of the science whores avowing that global warming isn&#039;t a threat to go screw himself. &quot;No Child Left Behind&quot; was no accident in its emphasis on test scores (fact regurgitation) and no interest in developing wisdom.  It keeps TPTB in power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana,</p>
<p>There aren&#8217;t many high school drop-outs forming successful corporations these days and you can no longer just take a proficiency test to become a member of the bar.  The education of women is what allows some of us to lead independent lives, rather than be forced into marriage and motherhood.  The education of some men is what led to women obtaining even the limited permissions and opportunities present for us today.  No one working the register at Walmart is going to have a big impact upon society but has a great likelihood of winding up on a section 8 voucher as one of the &#8216;perks&#8217; of having a lower echelon job. Americans are able to be employed full-time and still wind up below the poverty line. That is what happens when people of bad character become highly educated.</p>
<p>For the rest, in brief, there is a time limit in which the basic neurological structures and functions must develop for future learning.  Experience coupled with social interaction is actually observable in the degree to which the cerebral cortex acquires larger surface areas for function.  Language must develop by about 4 or 5 if it is to be a viable system for learning and expression.  However, literacy is often better left to formal instruction later in childhood. Scandinavians enjoy full literacy and don&#8217;t begin teaching reading until verbal language skills have been well established around age seven. We keep screwing up when we pound phonics into the heads of kids who can&#8217;t even retell a simple story.  </p>
<p>I used to work in the field of developmental disabilities and speech pathology. I can no longer work because &#8216;educated&#8217; people of bad character have convinced the uneducated masses (of mixed characters) that the use of poisons is perfectly harmless and only genetically inferior people can be harmed by them.  Yet, one in six of our children have disabilities today.  No amount of education can overcome those odds.  Only an educated individual can tell one of the science whores avowing that global warming isn&#8217;t a threat to go screw himself. &#8220;No Child Left Behind&#8221; was no accident in its emphasis on test scores (fact regurgitation) and no interest in developing wisdom.  It keeps TPTB in power.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Andrist</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/06/21/classic-knob-comment-of-the-week/#comment-151294</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Andrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical male supremecist feedback: I can&#039;t tell if the point of the comment was general denunciation or Lamaze instructions.

Uncanny. Do you think male supremecists pair the two deliberately, or is it strictly subconscious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical male supremecist feedback: I can&#8217;t tell if the point of the comment was general denunciation or Lamaze instructions.</p>
<p>Uncanny. Do you think male supremecists pair the two deliberately, or is it strictly subconscious?</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way... speaking of homeschooling and when people learn stuff... it&#039;s kind of a myth that you &quot;must&quot; learn reading or geometry by a certain age in order to ever &quot;get&quot; them.  There are people learning to read in their twenties and thirties.  There are people getting MDs in their fifties after going back to school.  While there are periods of brain development in which learning is *easier,* and while periods of extreme deprivation in the first three years can cause permanent damage of various types, for the most part we&#039;re pretty flexible about when we pick stuff up.  Think of immigrants who come here as adults and become more fluent in English than many &quot;native&quot; speakers.

If I&#039;ve learned one thing about raising my daughter, it&#039;s that she does eventually pick this stuff up.  I am not the most organized, go-get-em type of person, and she was kind of late potty-training.  I was starting to fret and to check books out of the library about quick-training methods... and then she decided on her own to just use the potty.  Just like that.  She&#039;d seen me do it a million times and figured she could handle it, and she hasn&#039;t worn diapers or pull-ups since.

She&#039;s done that with a few other things.  Now she&#039;s starting to learn how to spell her name at age four.  I haven&#039;t pushed her at all, just demonstrated it.  I suspect the rest will follow naturally if I don&#039;t make her hate it and just sort of guide her way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way&#8230; speaking of homeschooling and when people learn stuff&#8230; it&#8217;s kind of a myth that you &#8220;must&#8221; learn reading or geometry by a certain age in order to ever &#8220;get&#8221; them.  There are people learning to read in their twenties and thirties.  There are people getting MDs in their fifties after going back to school.  While there are periods of brain development in which learning is *easier,* and while periods of extreme deprivation in the first three years can cause permanent damage of various types, for the most part we&#8217;re pretty flexible about when we pick stuff up.  Think of immigrants who come here as adults and become more fluent in English than many &#8220;native&#8221; speakers.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;ve learned one thing about raising my daughter, it&#8217;s that she does eventually pick this stuff up.  I am not the most organized, go-get-em type of person, and she was kind of late potty-training.  I was starting to fret and to check books out of the library about quick-training methods&#8230; and then she decided on her own to just use the potty.  Just like that.  She&#8217;d seen me do it a million times and figured she could handle it, and she hasn&#8217;t worn diapers or pull-ups since.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s done that with a few other things.  Now she&#8217;s starting to learn how to spell her name at age four.  I haven&#8217;t pushed her at all, just demonstrated it.  I suspect the rest will follow naturally if I don&#8217;t make her hate it and just sort of guide her way.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He wasn&#039;t known as &quot;gigglingwizard&quot; or &quot;Gaelan&quot; was he?  He sounds a bit too much like a guy I used to fight with on LJ.  Would *skim* over my post, barely read it, pick out keywords and then bounce right off into reductio ad absurdum.

He&#039;d also tell you, with a straight face (and you can take that any way you like, as he was that as well), that he was feminist.  And liberal.  Do tell.

As for the conversation here about homeschooling, personally, I don&#039;t care what people teach their kids.  Let&#039;s face it, most of us never turn out to be Speshul Snowflakes (misspelling intended for sarcastic effect), and we forget more than half of what we were schooled in anyway.  I learned about science despite my public school curriculum, not because of it, for the most part.  Despite the vast majority of American students being public-schooled, we&#039;re still appallingly illiterate in scientific concerns.

And... it doesn&#039;t matter.  People who can&#039;t be bothered to learn things on their own are going to turn out useless no matter where they were educated (or schooled, not the same thing).  There are college graduates who can&#039;t find jobs;  there are high school dropouts founding corporations.  It&#039;s more about personal character than whether your parents taught you about evolution.  Even people who believe evolution happens don&#039;t always understand how it works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He wasn&#8217;t known as &#8220;gigglingwizard&#8221; or &#8220;Gaelan&#8221; was he?  He sounds a bit too much like a guy I used to fight with on LJ.  Would *skim* over my post, barely read it, pick out keywords and then bounce right off into reductio ad absurdum.</p>
<p>He&#8217;d also tell you, with a straight face (and you can take that any way you like, as he was that as well), that he was feminist.  And liberal.  Do tell.</p>
<p>As for the conversation here about homeschooling, personally, I don&#8217;t care what people teach their kids.  Let&#8217;s face it, most of us never turn out to be Speshul Snowflakes (misspelling intended for sarcastic effect), and we forget more than half of what we were schooled in anyway.  I learned about science despite my public school curriculum, not because of it, for the most part.  Despite the vast majority of American students being public-schooled, we&#8217;re still appallingly illiterate in scientific concerns.</p>
<p>And&#8230; it doesn&#8217;t matter.  People who can&#8217;t be bothered to learn things on their own are going to turn out useless no matter where they were educated (or schooled, not the same thing).  There are college graduates who can&#8217;t find jobs;  there are high school dropouts founding corporations.  It&#8217;s more about personal character than whether your parents taught you about evolution.  Even people who believe evolution happens don&#8217;t always understand how it works.</p>
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		<title>By: birkwearingblamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>birkwearingblamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They call that chanting and moving around eurythmy.  I spent quite a bit of time at this Waldorf school, talking to the teachers and observing.  It was big on crafts like knitting and whittling.  The teachers made the children draw only with square crayons for some reason.  The school celebrated some obscure holidays.  The school is behind in relation to traditional public schools.  Children are not taught to read until around 8. It was definitely alternative!

I was told that I would have to agree that my child watched NO television and played NO video games because it would ruin my child&#039;s imagination.  It was very restrictive in the way that you had to follow their philosophy.  The said that you were only allowed to send foods in their lunch boxes (organic type stuff - no chocolate milk).  The parents were kind of creepy although I can&#039;t really explain why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They call that chanting and moving around eurythmy.  I spent quite a bit of time at this Waldorf school, talking to the teachers and observing.  It was big on crafts like knitting and whittling.  The teachers made the children draw only with square crayons for some reason.  The school celebrated some obscure holidays.  The school is behind in relation to traditional public schools.  Children are not taught to read until around 8. It was definitely alternative!</p>
<p>I was told that I would have to agree that my child watched NO television and played NO video games because it would ruin my child&#8217;s imagination.  It was very restrictive in the way that you had to follow their philosophy.  The said that you were only allowed to send foods in their lunch boxes (organic type stuff &#8211; no chocolate milk).  The parents were kind of creepy although I can&#8217;t really explain why.</p>
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		<title>By: Nolabelfits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nolabelfits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I toured a Waldorf school while investigating options for the offspring. The kids were chanting masculinist lines to some ancient poetry or other in unison. Creeped me out, to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I toured a Waldorf school while investigating options for the offspring. The kids were chanting masculinist lines to some ancient poetry or other in unison. Creeped me out, to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Felicity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felicity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&quot;Oh, no, the evil patriarchs are out to get me!&quot;&#039;

This might be that bit in the movie where everyone looks at the idiot in silence: 

&#039;Oh no, a killer&#039;s gonna get me!/ sarcasm&#039;. 

Ya know, just before he gets killed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;&#8221;Oh, no, the evil patriarchs are out to get me!&#8221;&#8216;</p>
<p>This might be that bit in the movie where everyone looks at the idiot in silence: </p>
<p>&#8216;Oh no, a killer&#8217;s gonna get me!/ sarcasm&#8217;. </p>
<p>Ya know, just before he gets killed.</p>
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		<title>By: uglyfoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>uglyfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can &quot;get an aquarium&quot; become the new &quot;take a chill pill&quot;? Can we make that happen?

Seriously, that is the only way I&#039;m going to derisively tell people to relax from now on. Which I rarely do. I guess I&#039;ll have to start doing it all the time, so that I can use my delightful new catchphrase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can &#8220;get an aquarium&#8221; become the new &#8220;take a chill pill&#8221;? Can we make that happen?</p>
<p>Seriously, that is the only way I&#8217;m going to derisively tell people to relax from now on. Which I rarely do. I guess I&#8217;ll have to start doing it all the time, so that I can use my delightful new catchphrase.</p>
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