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		<title>By: Noble Savage &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The OED has got nothin&#8217; on me</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/09/02/tyra-wants-you/#comment-155783</link>
		<dc:creator>Noble Savage &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The OED has got nothin&#8217; on me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] where women are not sexualised for others&#8217; pleasure or profit and aren&#8217;t required to be Beauty 2k Compliant to feel good about [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lu</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/09/02/tyra-wants-you/#comment-153555</link>
		<dc:creator>Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss Andrist, Valerie M: Meetcha at screaming banshee dot com (whenever it is born). Yahoo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Andrist, Valerie M: Meetcha at screaming banshee dot com (whenever it is born). Yahoo!</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie M</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/09/02/tyra-wants-you/#comment-153514</link>
		<dc:creator>Valerie M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Once I finish putting screaming-banshee.com together, there’ll be a Shame-o-Rama where folks can post links such as these so other folks can dogpile these shaved apes and chase them to the four corners.&lt;/i&gt;

Excellent! Mwahahaha!

*rubs hands together gleefully*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Once I finish putting screaming-banshee.com together, there’ll be a Shame-o-Rama where folks can post links such as these so other folks can dogpile these shaved apes and chase them to the four corners.</i></p>
<p>Excellent! Mwahahaha!</p>
<p>*rubs hands together gleefully*</p>
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		<title>By: rajmahall</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/09/02/tyra-wants-you/#comment-153508</link>
		<dc:creator>rajmahall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 04:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virago: 

What you&#039;re offering here is a false dilemma: either we&#039;re a culture that idealizes thinness and dehumanizes women above a certain weight, or we&#039;re one that idealizes weight within a certain range, while dehumanizing those women who fall outside that range. 

The truth is we don&#039;t have to care. One should refuse to judge women based on their looks, period. Don&#039;t tell women above a certain weight to go to the gym. Don&#039;t tell women under a certain weight that they need to eat a sandwich. Don&#039;t make assumptions about a woman&#039;s health. Etc. Etc.

Believe me when I say that telling girls that they need to be AVERAGE-SIZED is no less traumatizing than telling them they need to be skinny. That it is just propaganda of another kind, one more method to keep young women up at night, by which the patriarchy is once again high-fived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virago: </p>
<p>What you&#8217;re offering here is a false dilemma: either we&#8217;re a culture that idealizes thinness and dehumanizes women above a certain weight, or we&#8217;re one that idealizes weight within a certain range, while dehumanizing those women who fall outside that range. </p>
<p>The truth is we don&#8217;t have to care. One should refuse to judge women based on their looks, period. Don&#8217;t tell women above a certain weight to go to the gym. Don&#8217;t tell women under a certain weight that they need to eat a sandwich. Don&#8217;t make assumptions about a woman&#8217;s health. Etc. Etc.</p>
<p>Believe me when I say that telling girls that they need to be AVERAGE-SIZED is no less traumatizing than telling them they need to be skinny. That it is just propaganda of another kind, one more method to keep young women up at night, by which the patriarchy is once again high-fived.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Andrist</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/09/02/tyra-wants-you/#comment-153497</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Andrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valerie &amp; Lu:

^_^ Any ol&#039; time. Hitting male supremecists with a baseball bat (verbal or Louisville, whichever is more convenient) is something of a hobby of mine. I mean, it entertains me to no end. Once I finish putting screaming-banshee.com together, there&#039;ll be a Shame-o-Rama where folks can post links such as these so other folks can dogpile these shaved apes and chase them to the four corners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valerie &amp; Lu:</p>
<p>^_^ Any ol&#8217; time. Hitting male supremecists with a baseball bat (verbal or Louisville, whichever is more convenient) is something of a hobby of mine. I mean, it entertains me to no end. Once I finish putting screaming-banshee.com together, there&#8217;ll be a Shame-o-Rama where folks can post links such as these so other folks can dogpile these shaved apes and chase them to the four corners.</p>
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		<title>By: virago</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/09/02/tyra-wants-you/#comment-153485</link>
		<dc:creator>virago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;virago- according to your statements I guess Jill needs ‘a few good meals’. Some people are just very skinny. Assigning an abnormal amount of moral value to any type of body is the problem here.&quot;

Yeah, some people are naturally &quot;just very skinny&quot;. So what? And those naturally &quot;just very skinny&quot; people don&#039;t have an entire modeling and acting industry trying to promote to them that they&#039;re &quot;too skinny&quot;. No, instead, it&#039;s just the opposite, and there are thousands of women and girls who are starving themselves to try and look like Tyra Banks, and I would be willing to bet that most models and actresses are not naturally &quot;just very skinny&quot; either. I should know because I spent a lot of my teen years being hospitalized for anorexia. I constantly was comparing myself to people like Tyra Banks because I felt too fat even though all my ribs were showing at one point. I made myself throw up everything I ate, and that was when I bothered to eat anything at all. And shows like &quot;America&#039;s Top Model&quot; just make things worse by promoting that image as &quot;ideal&quot; to impressionable teenage girls. So, Nails, maybe you should think of that instead of trying to turn my words about Tyra Banks into a personal attack on Jill (who btw isn&#039;t trying to promote her body type as the ideal image for everyone), and if what I said offends you- you can kiss my average size ass!

&quot;there was a girl who actually looked liked a woman should 

Oh, for fuck’s sake.&quot;

For fuck&#039;s sake is right. Your so busy picking apart my choice of words that you didn&#039;t even bother trying to understand the point that I was trying to make. I said the girl was of AVERAGE SIZE (you know the part you didn&#039;t quote). It sure didn&#039;t bother you that a girl, who more accurately represents THE AVERAGE WOMAN, is kicked off in favor of a girl who represents what the media tells us all women are suppose to look like. Ha! The last time I looked like this girl, I was in a hospital bed with tubes in my arms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;virago- according to your statements I guess Jill needs ‘a few good meals’. Some people are just very skinny. Assigning an abnormal amount of moral value to any type of body is the problem here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, some people are naturally &#8220;just very skinny&#8221;. So what? And those naturally &#8220;just very skinny&#8221; people don&#8217;t have an entire modeling and acting industry trying to promote to them that they&#8217;re &#8220;too skinny&#8221;. No, instead, it&#8217;s just the opposite, and there are thousands of women and girls who are starving themselves to try and look like Tyra Banks, and I would be willing to bet that most models and actresses are not naturally &#8220;just very skinny&#8221; either. I should know because I spent a lot of my teen years being hospitalized for anorexia. I constantly was comparing myself to people like Tyra Banks because I felt too fat even though all my ribs were showing at one point. I made myself throw up everything I ate, and that was when I bothered to eat anything at all. And shows like &#8220;America&#8217;s Top Model&#8221; just make things worse by promoting that image as &#8220;ideal&#8221; to impressionable teenage girls. So, Nails, maybe you should think of that instead of trying to turn my words about Tyra Banks into a personal attack on Jill (who btw isn&#8217;t trying to promote her body type as the ideal image for everyone), and if what I said offends you- you can kiss my average size ass!</p>
<p>&#8220;there was a girl who actually looked liked a woman should </p>
<p>Oh, for fuck’s sake.&#8221;</p>
<p>For fuck&#8217;s sake is right. Your so busy picking apart my choice of words that you didn&#8217;t even bother trying to understand the point that I was trying to make. I said the girl was of AVERAGE SIZE (you know the part you didn&#8217;t quote). It sure didn&#8217;t bother you that a girl, who more accurately represents THE AVERAGE WOMAN, is kicked off in favor of a girl who represents what the media tells us all women are suppose to look like. Ha! The last time I looked like this girl, I was in a hospital bed with tubes in my arms.</p>
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		<title>By: nails</title>
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		<dc:creator>nails</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 14:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys. This problem fits a very familiar template for women. There is a societal expectation shown everywhere, so we are all supposed to strive for it, but the expectation exists to be shit on by men so you lose no matter what. There is information available about how letting torture subjects &quot;choose&quot; something in the scenario made them feel more responsible about being tortured, despite the clear evidence that they were captives under the control of someone else. As in, stand on this box and if you don&#039;t we will torture you. Obviously no one can stand forever, but they still felt like it was their fault for not standing up the whole time. Providing fake choices to oppressed people is one of the best strategies for making people accept something they normally wouldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys. This problem fits a very familiar template for women. There is a societal expectation shown everywhere, so we are all supposed to strive for it, but the expectation exists to be shit on by men so you lose no matter what. There is information available about how letting torture subjects &#8220;choose&#8221; something in the scenario made them feel more responsible about being tortured, despite the clear evidence that they were captives under the control of someone else. As in, stand on this box and if you don&#8217;t we will torture you. Obviously no one can stand forever, but they still felt like it was their fault for not standing up the whole time. Providing fake choices to oppressed people is one of the best strategies for making people accept something they normally wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Nails

Ah. Thanks for explaining about linking - I didn&#039;t realise that. 

Also, you&#039;re right about skinny women not being treated well. I&#039;ve been thin and I&#039;ve been fat and my body was picked apart and policed whatever. I wouldn&#039;t have said one was better than the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Nails</p>
<p>Ah. Thanks for explaining about linking &#8211; I didn&#8217;t realise that. </p>
<p>Also, you&#8217;re right about skinny women not being treated well. I&#8217;ve been thin and I&#8217;ve been fat and my body was picked apart and policed whatever. I wouldn&#8217;t have said one was better than the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Jezebella</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/09/02/tyra-wants-you/#comment-153445</link>
		<dc:creator>Jezebella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 05:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either way, skinny women are &quot;real women&quot; so let us not be shitty in the direction of skinny folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either way, skinny women are &#8220;real women&#8221; so let us not be shitty in the direction of skinny folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedgepig</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/09/02/tyra-wants-you/#comment-153444</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedgepig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 05:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nails, yeah that&#039;s true; the analogy wasn&#039;t right. If you&#039;re large the patriarchal abuse is overt, if you&#039;re small it&#039;s more likely to be covert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nails, yeah that&#8217;s true; the analogy wasn&#8217;t right. If you&#8217;re large the patriarchal abuse is overt, if you&#8217;re small it&#8217;s more likely to be covert.</p>
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