That tells us the funding of extreme right and religious groups by Republicans (to increase their rank and file among poorer individuals) has backfired and they have largely taken over the party. Instead of rendering them splintered and useless, we are about to see a rise in violence now (as if it weren’t already bad enough) against women, minorities and activists. The Palin rhetoric, which she likes to say is metaphorical, heaps blessings upon those in authority to turn an even blinder eye than usual to such ‘patriotic’ violations of law.

This is about a lot more than abortions.

“We’re members without a party,” he said. “Democrats are mad at you, and Republicans don’t trust you.”

So he’s basically like every other violent misogynist asshole, hurting women because he feels slighted. Oppression really is boring and repetitive!

To say that if some women must give up their right to an abortion for the “greater good” then so be it, is scary. Which woman? How many? What circumstances? It won’t be that woman who decides..it will be the insurance company and some MALE fucking doctor.. That tired old democratic party bullshit has been taking away our rights for decades now. We must ALWAYS follow the dog whistle for someone else’s greater good and do all the shit work for this party while having our issues put on the back burner. Do you know how much longer they will make this argument to ignore us? I left the party over it after thirty years of hearing the same old argument, different “more important” “greater good” bullshit one too many times.

You go on believing that this bill is a good health care bill. Have you read it? Single payer was on the table and Obama and Pelosi took it off. Stupak was predictable. Obama not saying anything to prevent it was also predictable.

I moved to Canada several years ago because I couldn’t afford health care at home. I’d like nothing more than to be able to move back but, can’t. This bill is not “health care” It’s a huge give away to big pharma by Obama as a big fat thank you for all the money they gave him. He gave the insurance companies a bill that will be HMO’s on steroids only you won’t get to see that in action until after Obama runs again in 2012. This bill has ZERO to do with affordable health care for all.

Obama, never gave a shit about women’s issues and the democrats and republicans are a joke. Until women, stand up for other women in politics then we will NOT be represented in government, will always be asked to take it up the ass for the “greater good” and will forever be judged twice as harshly as the male candidate counter parts.

Give me a fucking break. This bill needed to die. It is dishonest of Obama to call this shit “reform” with all the big pharma ass kissing that’s in there. He gave them far, far more than Bush did!!

I notice all the health care compromises are aimed at women’s health issues. This was about patriarchy and woman hating.

My family at home do not have health care and did NOT support this bill in it’s present form after having actually bothered to read the bill. Just because Obama says the word reform over and over does not make it so. Obama is Bush three. Only even Bush didn’t go after abortion rights. Sad and infuriating.

I voted Hillary and then Mckinney. I’d someday like to go to D.C. and actually see some WOMEN up on the the walls of the fucking W.H. but, for people who hold women to ten times the standard of male candidates I probably would have by now.

I’ve thought long and hard about giving up my citizenship over more than one issue lately. The U.S. woman hating press, the double standards in politics, the b.s.er in the White House calling himself a “reformer” while stabbing all my sisters in the back.

Funny thing is, I was once just like you, making any argument I could to support the big daddy man democrat lefty boy in the W.H. no matter what they asked of me. Donate money, stump for the swinging dick who said he “understood” women’s rights ALL while putting my issues behind every other “important” fire of the day. No more.

So forgive me if I find your arguments sounding strangely like they would fit in over at cheeto land OR Freeper. Either way…women lose no matter how you use word salad to justify it..I’ve heard it all before. The democrats and republicans are run by the same special interests and they do not have your interests at heart including Obama. Maybe, just maybe the reason they pushed so hard against Hillary is they were afraid she might not play ball the good ole boy way that Obama will and showed he would in Illinois. We’ll never know now and not for many, many years to come because the same old double standard arguments will continue to be made against every liberal woman who runs and the misogyny in the press will be rubber stamped and participated in by those calling themselves “progressives” over again.

You’ve been had. This bill was not about “reform” it was payback for playing the game with United Health, and big pharma. It was all done with a final big “fuck you” to women. How anyone could defend that is beyond me.

But you know what? No. If what little access to abortion that women have in this country has to be sacrificed for me to get health insurance, then no. It is a step in the wrong direction, a step further INTO patriarchy, and it isn’t worth it.

Now, you can go ahead and not believe me. You could, if you knew me and my situation, bring up the fact that this bill won’t give me health insurance anyway; then I could bring up the fact that having health insurance doesn’t mean you’ll get health care, particularly if you’re female. But what you asked for, a woman not in good health, with no insurance, who thinks access to abortion is more important overall health care, that’s me.

In short, my humanity is more important than my health.

Actually, PAP smears are currently funded by medicare and many plans. The exam which one needs to collect the smear isn’t. So, true that preventive care isn’t covered yet but the under-insured can still see a doctor when sick. The uninsured can’t. I can’t afford the well-check up but when I found a lump in my breast, the exam, mammogram and follow up sonogram showing it was just cystic material was covered. Without my insurance, no follow-up would have been possible to rule out or detect disease.

The stupidity of neglecting preventive health measures for the insured will certainly end for two reasons. First, lots of well check ups find reasons to prescribe drugs so Big Pharma can buy votes in congress to establish that. Why wait for people to get sick to get some expensive drugs they likely don’t need? Second, preventive care approaches save billions as the OMB will determine when they get to it. Asthma costs us 18 billion per year with it being the fourth biggest reason for loss of productivity in the workplace. Only about half of asthma is allergy based so it’s largely preventable. This will play well in many sectors as a reason for preventive care. And if you get help when sick, you will likely be working and perhaps able to afford that checkup if you want one in the meantime.

I am waiting for someone without insurance to tell me they don’t want health care coverage if it must initially come with anti-abortion measures. Anyone who is familiar with the helplessness of illness and no recourse but an ER? Unless they can kick stupak out of the picture soon, it is another way to delay universal health care. They aren’t that stupid – Stupak works for them no matter what happens.