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		<title>By: Azundris</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/11/21/funny-sexism-harms-outweigh-benefits/#comment-162330</link>
		<dc:creator>Azundris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 12:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&#039;Humor,&#039; and unnecessary cuts&quot;:
http://yfrog.com/2gwxsj

After puking a jet and toppling over backwards, I&#039;m half-tempted to buy that rag just so I can show it to any idiot claiming &quot;feminism is no longer needed.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8216;Humor,&#8217; and unnecessary cuts&#8221;:<br />
<a href="http://yfrog.com/2gwxsj" rel="nofollow">http://yfrog.com/2gwxsj</a></p>
<p>After puking a jet and toppling over backwards, I&#8217;m half-tempted to buy that rag just so I can show it to any idiot claiming &#8220;feminism is no longer needed.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Laughingrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laughingrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kiuku, your comment about &quot;real world&quot; experiences, condescension, and the pay/authority gap was really evocative.  I hear you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiuku, your comment about &#8220;real world&#8221; experiences, condescension, and the pay/authority gap was really evocative.  I hear you.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiuku</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/11/21/funny-sexism-harms-outweigh-benefits/#comment-159952</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiuku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yea and not qualified. forgot to add that one to the list. There are really too many to add. An innumerable amount. But those are the most stand out reasons why women are miserable, whether they be articulated or not. No one wants to work hard just so other people can get ahead.

Imaginary: e mail Lynette Long about your idea.

http://www.lynettelong.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yea and not qualified. forgot to add that one to the list. There are really too many to add. An innumerable amount. But those are the most stand out reasons why women are miserable, whether they be articulated or not. No one wants to work hard just so other people can get ahead.</p>
<p>Imaginary: e mail Lynette Long about your idea.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lynettelong.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lynettelong.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kiuku</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/11/21/funny-sexism-harms-outweigh-benefits/#comment-159951</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiuku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and men just hate you. It&#039;s really as simple as that. It&#039;s just hate, plain and simple. Gotta walk around being hated everywhere you go.

Imaginary, there is a doctor starting a group just like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and men just hate you. It&#8217;s really as simple as that. It&#8217;s just hate, plain and simple. Gotta walk around being hated everywhere you go.</p>
<p>Imaginary, there is a doctor starting a group just like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiuku</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/11/21/funny-sexism-harms-outweigh-benefits/#comment-159950</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiuku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll tell the media why I&#039;m miserable, because no matter how much I work, I will be poor. Society makes sure of this. No matter how much education, experience, or training I have, I will be seen as incompetent or inexperienced, a novice. All my experiences aren&#039;t real experiences. I constantly have men telling me what the &quot;real world&quot; is like, and, as a woman, I am constantly &quot;learning a lesson&quot; about &quot;the real world.&quot; My experiences are never real experiences in the real world. The simplest experience of a man is worth more weight in reality than mine will ever be. I&#039;m currently making 72 cents to the dollar of my male colleagues, who have less education, spent less money on education, and have less experience than me, collectively. They will also be promoted. No matter how aggressive I am, nice I am, happy I am, sad I am, I&#039;ll never be right or normal or sane. I will be threatened with violence, intimidated on the streets, silenced, laughed at, and paid less, and none of this will be in &quot;the real world.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll tell the media why I&#8217;m miserable, because no matter how much I work, I will be poor. Society makes sure of this. No matter how much education, experience, or training I have, I will be seen as incompetent or inexperienced, a novice. All my experiences aren&#8217;t real experiences. I constantly have men telling me what the &#8220;real world&#8221; is like, and, as a woman, I am constantly &#8220;learning a lesson&#8221; about &#8220;the real world.&#8221; My experiences are never real experiences in the real world. The simplest experience of a man is worth more weight in reality than mine will ever be. I&#8217;m currently making 72 cents to the dollar of my male colleagues, who have less education, spent less money on education, and have less experience than me, collectively. They will also be promoted. No matter how aggressive I am, nice I am, happy I am, sad I am, I&#8217;ll never be right or normal or sane. I will be threatened with violence, intimidated on the streets, silenced, laughed at, and paid less, and none of this will be in &#8220;the real world.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kiuku</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/11/21/funny-sexism-harms-outweigh-benefits/#comment-159949</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiuku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The attention given to studies showing women getting more and more miserable with no explanation other than ‘get over it’ are aplenty, and also very annoying. The glaringly obvious is avoided. &quot;

Yea but don&#039;t you know that women are getting more miserable because they just can&#039;t have it all. And the smart women that realize that they can&#039;t &quot;have it all&quot; and get back in the house are much happier. Atleast, that&#039;s what the media says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The attention given to studies showing women getting more and more miserable with no explanation other than ‘get over it’ are aplenty, and also very annoying. The glaringly obvious is avoided. &#8221;</p>
<p>Yea but don&#8217;t you know that women are getting more miserable because they just can&#8217;t have it all. And the smart women that realize that they can&#8217;t &#8220;have it all&#8221; and get back in the house are much happier. Atleast, that&#8217;s what the media says.</p>
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		<title>By: Imaginary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imaginary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess what? White men aren&#039;t going to change any time soon. I say we form our own society with a small number just to do some guerrilla warfare (like fucking with Playboy or a NAMBLA site). Then, in time, we swell our numbers and become a huge threat. After all this time and all this work, womin have nothing other than a piece of paper that says we&#039;re equal to show for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess what? White men aren&#8217;t going to change any time soon. I say we form our own society with a small number just to do some guerrilla warfare (like fucking with Playboy or a NAMBLA site). Then, in time, we swell our numbers and become a huge threat. After all this time and all this work, womin have nothing other than a piece of paper that says we&#8217;re equal to show for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aimee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aimee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish this kind of study was more in the Media and on six o clock news,   I have  put up with Blonde jokes my whole life and have been offended by them for years. To me its no different to rascim, I cant help the way I was born and am not dumb because of it.  I will not ever let those jokes go over my head, but you do get tired of CONSTANTLY telling peole its not okay and having to explian why. If anyone had a quick fire one scentance answer id love to know how to shut people down in a heart beat. Perhaps more education via the media,  like I said first off, why dont they put these studies on the news and into  main stream media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish this kind of study was more in the Media and on six o clock news,   I have  put up with Blonde jokes my whole life and have been offended by them for years. To me its no different to rascim, I cant help the way I was born and am not dumb because of it.  I will not ever let those jokes go over my head, but you do get tired of CONSTANTLY telling peole its not okay and having to explian why. If anyone had a quick fire one scentance answer id love to know how to shut people down in a heart beat. Perhaps more education via the media,  like I said first off, why dont they put these studies on the news and into  main stream media.</p>
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		<title>By: rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Little late to the party but the original paper is here if you would like to read it:

http://psp.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/34/2/159.pdf

The figure where the conclusion talked about in the blog post is drawn is here.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2822886/Screen%20shot%202010-02-17%20at%205.06.40%20PM.png

If you look at that figure there are several conclusions you can draw, not just that one conclusion. -SD in the figure is people who scored low on the sexist score. +SD means they scored high. The triangles and circles and stuff are labelled in the figure. Anyway, here are the conclusions you can draw:

1) Being sexist does not affect the funding decisions at all in a vaccum. When they read the neutral texts, people with high (+SD) and low (-SD) sexism scores donate the same amount to the women&#039;s organization. That is what the straight line with the triangles says.

2) If you are sexist, reading derogatory comments prior to donating will cause you to donate more. In the +SD column, the square is above the triangle which is what that means. The non-sexist people are unmoved by the derogatory comments and donate the same as if they read neutral stuff.

3) If you are not-sexist, reading sexist jokes prior to making funding decisions will make you donate twice as much as if you read neutral stuff. The circle in the left column is 2x higher than the triangle.

4) If you are sexist, reading sexist jokes prior to making funding decisions will make you donate less than a sixth of what you would originally. This is the only point they actually discuss in the paper, but it is one of many you can draw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little late to the party but the original paper is here if you would like to read it:</p>
<p><a href="http://psp.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/34/2/159.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://psp.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/34/2/159.pdf</a></p>
<p>The figure where the conclusion talked about in the blog post is drawn is here.</p>
<p><a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2822886/Screen%20shot%202010-02-17%20at%205.06.40%20PM.png" rel="nofollow">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2822886/Screen%20shot%202010-02-17%20at%205.06.40%20PM.png</a></p>
<p>If you look at that figure there are several conclusions you can draw, not just that one conclusion. -SD in the figure is people who scored low on the sexist score. +SD means they scored high. The triangles and circles and stuff are labelled in the figure. Anyway, here are the conclusions you can draw:</p>
<p>1) Being sexist does not affect the funding decisions at all in a vaccum. When they read the neutral texts, people with high (+SD) and low (-SD) sexism scores donate the same amount to the women&#8217;s organization. That is what the straight line with the triangles says.</p>
<p>2) If you are sexist, reading derogatory comments prior to donating will cause you to donate more. In the +SD column, the square is above the triangle which is what that means. The non-sexist people are unmoved by the derogatory comments and donate the same as if they read neutral stuff.</p>
<p>3) If you are not-sexist, reading sexist jokes prior to making funding decisions will make you donate twice as much as if you read neutral stuff. The circle in the left column is 2x higher than the triangle.</p>
<p>4) If you are sexist, reading sexist jokes prior to making funding decisions will make you donate less than a sixth of what you would originally. This is the only point they actually discuss in the paper, but it is one of many you can draw.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Because there are only three groups it’s still socially acceptable to make fun of: 1) women, 2) fat people, and 3) gay people.&quot;

You forgot poor, especially religious, white people. When we&#039;re not blaming them (in a more serious tone) for all the racism and sexism, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Because there are only three groups it’s still socially acceptable to make fun of: 1) women, 2) fat people, and 3) gay people.&#8221;</p>
<p>You forgot poor, especially religious, white people. When we&#8217;re not blaming them (in a more serious tone) for all the racism and sexism, that is.</p>
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