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		<title>By: Imaginary</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/12/03/spinster-aunt-explains-comedy/#comment-161654</link>
		<dc:creator>Imaginary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a womyn is like being fed broken glass your entire life. Then, when you mercifully croak, if you were a white womyn, you get a cookie after death (ie. people actually give a shit about you) but if you weren&#039;t, no one cares. The cookie is probably small consolation for the dead white womyn, but other, alive, white womin at the very least see that if they die horribly, there will be a police investigation and perhaps a lovely montage on the news. But what do I know? I&#039;m white, young, and deranged so I could be completely off the mark. Regardless, IBTP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a womyn is like being fed broken glass your entire life. Then, when you mercifully croak, if you were a white womyn, you get a cookie after death (ie. people actually give a shit about you) but if you weren&#8217;t, no one cares. The cookie is probably small consolation for the dead white womyn, but other, alive, white womin at the very least see that if they die horribly, there will be a police investigation and perhaps a lovely montage on the news. But what do I know? I&#8217;m white, young, and deranged so I could be completely off the mark. Regardless, IBTP!</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/12/03/spinster-aunt-explains-comedy/#comment-157578</link>
		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for all the typos lately. I just don&#039;t see them when I review my comments- I do have some slight neurological issues with words and letters but I am usually able to do okay with writing at least. Must be all my recent agitation. I will try to review more carefully. And buy some weed, and chill out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for all the typos lately. I just don&#8217;t see them when I review my comments- I do have some slight neurological issues with words and letters but I am usually able to do okay with writing at least. Must be all my recent agitation. I will try to review more carefully. And buy some weed, and chill out.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/12/03/spinster-aunt-explains-comedy/#comment-157577</link>
		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;None of that negates the racism in your comments though&quot;

This is a major charge to make against another poster, yet you refuse to defend your accusation. What was racist? If it turns out to be a misunderstanding, I would at least be able to address your concerns.

&quot; nor does it change the fact that nobody here said class is not a major factor in oppression.&quot;

Yet just bringing uo caused a ruckus and led to a lot of hyperbolic (and false) accusations. Why?

As far as PP is concerned, I hope everyone has followed the link and noted that I am not the only one of Jill&#039;s posters to get the &quot;treatment&quot; over at his specially created blog for the purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;None of that negates the racism in your comments though&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a major charge to make against another poster, yet you refuse to defend your accusation. What was racist? If it turns out to be a misunderstanding, I would at least be able to address your concerns.</p>
<p>&#8221; nor does it change the fact that nobody here said class is not a major factor in oppression.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet just bringing uo caused a ruckus and led to a lot of hyperbolic (and false) accusations. Why?</p>
<p>As far as PP is concerned, I hope everyone has followed the link and noted that I am not the only one of Jill&#8217;s posters to get the &#8220;treatment&#8221; over at his specially created blog for the purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie M</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/12/03/spinster-aunt-explains-comedy/#comment-157572</link>
		<dc:creator>Valerie M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Pee Pee, your entitled roots are showing. Do you havce any idea how offensively condescending and inappropriate your tone is on a feminist blog? And why do I seem to be the only person here aware of this?&lt;/i&gt;

You are not the only one. Many others have expressed their dissatisfaction with PP&#039;s constant reminders that he&#039;s watching! us at all times. Jill is happy to let him stay and it&#039;s Jill&#039;s blog. 

None of that negates the racism in your comments though, nor does it change the fact that nobody here said class is not a major factor in oppression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Pee Pee, your entitled roots are showing. Do you havce any idea how offensively condescending and inappropriate your tone is on a feminist blog? And why do I seem to be the only person here aware of this?</i></p>
<p>You are not the only one. Many others have expressed their dissatisfaction with PP&#8217;s constant reminders that he&#8217;s watching! us at all times. Jill is happy to let him stay and it&#8217;s Jill&#8217;s blog. </p>
<p>None of that negates the racism in your comments though, nor does it change the fact that nobody here said class is not a major factor in oppression.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/12/03/spinster-aunt-explains-comedy/#comment-157560</link>
		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;maybe the Internet’s not for you&quot;

&quot;Isabel, if you are not satisfied with the direction of the discussion here.....&quot;

Pee Pee, your entitled roots are showing. Do you havce any idea how offensively condescending and inappropriate your tone is on a feminist blog? And why do I seem to be the only person here aware of this?

You&#039;ve been told this before - your White Knight fantasies are ANTI-feminist.

And if you were not aware, See Pee-pee, YOU HAVE YOUR OWN FUCKING BLOG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;maybe the Internet’s not for you&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Isabel, if you are not satisfied with the direction of the discussion here&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Pee Pee, your entitled roots are showing. Do you havce any idea how offensively condescending and inappropriate your tone is on a feminist blog? And why do I seem to be the only person here aware of this?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve been told this before &#8211; your White Knight fantasies are ANTI-feminist.</p>
<p>And if you were not aware, See Pee-pee, YOU HAVE YOUR OWN FUCKING BLOG.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/12/03/spinster-aunt-explains-comedy/#comment-157559</link>
		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it seems as though you are trying to say&quot;

&quot;This all sounds suspiciously like &quot;


It is really interesting that you (like most people around here) are unable to simply focus on what I ACTUALLY said.

There&#039;s something downright suspicious about that!

Perhaps Twisty will have one of her trusty entitled upper-class white male buddies fix the problem (you know by harrassing and attempting to humiliate me) because of course she is unable to, being a mere woman and all. Thank the Lord for good men like See Pee-pee, who are willing to patrol all the feminist blogs rooting out  posters who do not express themselves in the approved fashion.

But you can rest assured that Twisty will stand by her man friend and continue to make &quot;trailer&quot; jokes at my expense. In case you didn&#039;t know, that is code for &quot;white trash.&quot; Us poor white women are so lucky to be chosen as scapegoats for the rest of society!

In conclusion, it seems suspiciously like what you are trying to say is that all white people are similarly privileged, and that they are all lording it over all &quot;people of color&quot; which is, well wrong. Where is this thinking getting you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it seems as though you are trying to say&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;This all sounds suspiciously like &#8221;</p>
<p>It is really interesting that you (like most people around here) are unable to simply focus on what I ACTUALLY said.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s something downright suspicious about that!</p>
<p>Perhaps Twisty will have one of her trusty entitled upper-class white male buddies fix the problem (you know by harrassing and attempting to humiliate me) because of course she is unable to, being a mere woman and all. Thank the Lord for good men like See Pee-pee, who are willing to patrol all the feminist blogs rooting out  posters who do not express themselves in the approved fashion.</p>
<p>But you can rest assured that Twisty will stand by her man friend and continue to make &#8220;trailer&#8221; jokes at my expense. In case you didn&#8217;t know, that is code for &#8220;white trash.&#8221; Us poor white women are so lucky to be chosen as scapegoats for the rest of society!</p>
<p>In conclusion, it seems suspiciously like what you are trying to say is that all white people are similarly privileged, and that they are all lording it over all &#8220;people of color&#8221; which is, well wrong. Where is this thinking getting you?</p>
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		<title>By: Amananta</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/12/03/spinster-aunt-explains-comedy/#comment-157551</link>
		<dc:creator>Amananta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“white women who aren’t wealthy still get to be seen as “good girls” if they play the game and make a really big deal about being religious and keeping their legs shut.”

Slightly outdated advice, wouldn’t you say?&quot;

I am now utterly confused.  First of all, it wasn&#039;t advice, but a statement of the reality I&#039;ve experienced my entire life, and I&#039;m under 40, so I don&#039;t think its &quot;outdated, no.  Most of my family still thinks this way, in 2009.
I am perplexed as to why you think I am *ignoring* class.  I am acknowledging class but saying it does not balance out somehow against white privilege.  Besides, if you are a woman of color, AND poor, you get to have all THREE types of discrimination used against you - sexism, racism AND classism.  Perhaps you do not mean to be sounding like this but it seems as though you are trying to say poor white women are somehow less privileged than poor black women, and that does fit the term generally called &quot;Oppression Olympics&quot;.  I&#039;ve seen other poor white women exhibit gross, blatant racism against black women and expect me to go along with them and commiserate. 
This all sounds suspiciously like men who get angry about feminism and start pointing out the problems of blue collar men and how powerless they are and how they can&#039;t have privilege over women because they aren&#039;t in a suit.  Somehow the reality that working class women have the SAME oppressions as working class men PLUS the added burden of sexism just cannot register with them.  I see this happening here too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“white women who aren’t wealthy still get to be seen as “good girls” if they play the game and make a really big deal about being religious and keeping their legs shut.”</p>
<p>Slightly outdated advice, wouldn’t you say?&#8221;</p>
<p>I am now utterly confused.  First of all, it wasn&#8217;t advice, but a statement of the reality I&#8217;ve experienced my entire life, and I&#8217;m under 40, so I don&#8217;t think its &#8220;outdated, no.  Most of my family still thinks this way, in 2009.<br />
I am perplexed as to why you think I am *ignoring* class.  I am acknowledging class but saying it does not balance out somehow against white privilege.  Besides, if you are a woman of color, AND poor, you get to have all THREE types of discrimination used against you &#8211; sexism, racism AND classism.  Perhaps you do not mean to be sounding like this but it seems as though you are trying to say poor white women are somehow less privileged than poor black women, and that does fit the term generally called &#8220;Oppression Olympics&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve seen other poor white women exhibit gross, blatant racism against black women and expect me to go along with them and commiserate.<br />
This all sounds suspiciously like men who get angry about feminism and start pointing out the problems of blue collar men and how powerless they are and how they can&#8217;t have privilege over women because they aren&#8217;t in a suit.  Somehow the reality that working class women have the SAME oppressions as working class men PLUS the added burden of sexism just cannot register with them.  I see this happening here too.</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade PhysioProf</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/12/03/spinster-aunt-explains-comedy/#comment-157531</link>
		<dc:creator>Comrade PhysioProf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isabel, if you are not satisfied with the direction of the discussion here, you do know that &lt;a href=&quot;http://getyourownmotherfuckingblogasshole.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;you are perfectly entitled to initiate your own forum for discussion of topics that are more to your liking&lt;/a&gt; at any of a number of available free services, such as Blogspot and Wordpress, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isabel, if you are not satisfied with the direction of the discussion here, you do know that <a href="http://getyourownmotherfuckingblogasshole.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">you are perfectly entitled to initiate your own forum for discussion of topics that are more to your liking</a> at any of a number of available free services, such as Blogspot and Wordpress, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/12/03/spinster-aunt-explains-comedy/#comment-157530</link>
		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Un-fucking-believable.

You are laughing your asses off and making &quot;trailer&quot; jokes about me because I am standing up for poor white women?

How this is funny is beyond my comprehension.

This is hardly &quot;advanced blaming&quot; - it&#039;s advanced scapegoating.

Amazing that attempts to discuss class oppression withing the white &quot;race&quot; brings out this level of hostility privileged whites like PP and Jill, but perhaps I am being naive. 

Some people around here need to examine their class privilege. I can suggest some readings for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Un-fucking-believable.</p>
<p>You are laughing your asses off and making &#8220;trailer&#8221; jokes about me because I am standing up for poor white women?</p>
<p>How this is funny is beyond my comprehension.</p>
<p>This is hardly &#8220;advanced blaming&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s advanced scapegoating.</p>
<p>Amazing that attempts to discuss class oppression withing the white &#8220;race&#8221; brings out this level of hostility privileged whites like PP and Jill, but perhaps I am being naive. </p>
<p>Some people around here need to examine their class privilege. I can suggest some readings for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade PhysioProf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comrade PhysioProf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one &quot;launched an attack&quot; on you. We just &quot;laughed our asses off&quot; at you. If you can&#039;t tell the difference, maybe the Internet&#039;s not for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one &#8220;launched an attack&#8221; on you. We just &#8220;laughed our asses off&#8221; at you. If you can&#8217;t tell the difference, maybe the Internet&#8217;s not for you.</p>
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