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Jan 06 2010

Spinster aunt speaks out agin crapulent sickos in horse industry

horse-starvedStill from a YouTube vid exposing unspeakable sickosity at New Jersey Bravo Packing company. Disturbing in the extreme.

Spinster aunts are multi-faceted — which is fortunate, because otherwise our Down With Patriarchy! ways would render us friendless and alone — and one of those facets is that we have been horse-crazy since birth. Horse people are just as nutty as dog show people (Best In Show is no exaggeration), only with bigger vet bills. The ones who aren’t nutty are crooks. Only a small percentage of horse people have anything like what you might call a grip.

For years I’ve been a devoted fan of Fugly Horse of the Day. This excellent blog is authored by Fugly, one of the few with a grip. Sparing the reader the goopy glitter-butterfly sentimentality that seems to infest so many horse blogs, Fugly advocates for the species, rescues OTTBs (off-the-track Thoroughbreds), comments sensibly and humorously on the horse business, makes fun of the nuts, and exposes the crooks. Her blog is insanely popular, so an army of Fuglies nationwide can be mobilized at a moment’s notice to spy on crazy trainers, call bullshit on ignorant breeders, locate stolen horses, and rescue abandoned animals from kill-buyers at auctions. Some of her liveliest writing is on those crapulent sickos who merge “crook” and “nutty” into “sociopath.”

Behold Fugly’s declaration of war on the Bravo Meat Packing slaughterhouse in New Jersey. The slaughterhouse produces illegal horse meat for owners of exotic animals (lions, tigers, and bears, I guess) and exists with the protection of corrupt government. The horses who end up there are starved and brutalized by sociopath abusers before being turned into lunch for somebody’s pet ocelot. I am happy to report that the head sociopath recently died, hopefully in agony, but the slaughterhouse is still going full tilt.

“[Rescued mare] Buttercup was living at Bravo for close to a year and was a part of Monty’s “lean meat” experiment. To procure lean meat, a horse must start out fat and healthy and then be starved for months to a point of lean muscle tissue. Buttercup was not only starved at the Bravo kill lot, but medically neglected as well. She had gashes on her right front leg and severe cellulitis on her left back leg that were left untreated by Monty and Joe Merola for months. Consequently, Buttercup will have chronic cellulitis for the rest of her life in her left back leg. Luckily, she is still rid-able and the vet would like her to be ridden to keep the swelling down.”

This joint needs to be shut down, so I’m joining the Fuglitariat in getting the word out. I’m not sure how much crossover there is between the horse world and patriarchy blamers, but animal suffering is animal suffering, and I’m officially declaring horse abuse as a Savage Death Island blame-motif. If you live in Jersey and give a crap about shit, call up your state lege and tell’em to quit subsidizing this horrorshow.

Horse slaughter for human consumption is illegal in the U.S. This means that unwanted horses — often failed or lame racehorses or show horses, 100,000 of’em a year — are sent to American auctions, bought by kill buyers for $50 or $100, and shipped — under abhorrent conditions in double-decker pig trucks — to Mexico for slaughter.

Go vegan!

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  1. janicen

    Thank you for publishing this sickening story. I don’t live in NJ, but I’m going to get the word out to some people and do what I can. This must stop.

  2. Sarah

    Most self-respecting patriarchy-blamers are also advocates of animal rights, because who is more completely at the whim of an oppressive, violent patriarchal society than poor, defenseless animals? We ladybrains identify with cute fuzzies in bad situations because that is essentially what we are: Cute object-things trapped in a vicious cycle of bad, upon which an entire culture is built. I for one started out first caring about animals (and going veg), then caring about racism and poverty (and acquiring that oh-so-useful journalism degree), and then finally wound up here, blaming patriarchy (and, um, blog commenting?).

  3. Felicity

    The picture is disturbing. And nothing reminds me of what men are capable of like animal cruelty. It reminds me, men do it to torture the innocent, not for fun. Animals are the most oppressed thing on this planet, and why I sometimes think a human-race-whipping disease is *the* only hope. Or a big tidal wave.

  4. Tehomet

    Mary Daly is and was right when she said that all oppressions are interconnected. That image just makes me want to hurl.

  5. Jezebella

    Reposted to Facebook; suggest others may wish to do the same.

  6. nakedthoughts

    Something like 80% of animals used in production of “food” are Female. (I put “food” in quotes as I disagree with that definition.) They are routinely raped and slaughtered, with no concern for their lives or standard of living. This, on its own is horrible.

    But even those who do not care about animals, should be against animal cruelty. To ignore that female sexed bodies of animals are seen as worthless except when they can be used by a “person” (I.E. cis-gendered straight white male) has no effect on how female sexed bodies of humans are treated, is shortsighted.

    The more I care about others’ well being, the more concerned I am with eliminating all oppression (not just my own), the more I am perceived as a radical fringe element.

  7. DavidC

    It’s a bit confusing to me, what to say in situations like this. This doesn’t sound any worse than how animals are used in the production of most food, so calling special attention to it seems odd.

    But maybe the non-vegan public is more sympathetic to horses, less used to thinking of them as food, and so more likely to care?

  8. Jill

    “This doesn’t sound any worse than how animals are used in the production of most food, so calling special attention to it seems odd.”

    I do not comprehend you, DavidC. Not calling attention to it would seem odder. And a little psycho.

    If you wish to argue that, to an indifferent cosmos, the suffering of one species is very like another, and that all instances of same should be viewed with your detached sangfroid, knock yourself out. I’m writin’ about horses today because a) maybe some people don’t know about horse slaughter, and b) I particularly wish to. Happily, since this is my blog and not yours, I can write about the boils on my ass if I want.

  9. kristyn

    Thank you for teaching me about Fugly, I didn’t know there was a blog for horsepeople with a grip.

    I worked on a racetrack for a while, because I could give the horses a respite from cruelty and also I needed fast money. The things I saw there, you can only imagine, and I worked with a very good trainer too — Steve Asmussen.
    Without sidetracking any longer, I can definitely say that indeed, my experiences proved at least to me that all oppressions are linked. Animal cruelty and misogyny are very much bedfellows, and the people who are likely to commit cruelty to animals are likely — no, guaranteed — to abuse women as well.

  10. Larkspur

    Temple Grandin, who’s written a number of books about animals, both pet/companion animals and livestock animals, has said that we ought not make the mistake of assuming that death is the worst thing that can happen to an animal. Monty’s “lean meat” experiment would seem to be a glaring example of that. It’s more upsetting to us when the victims are companion animals, but no animal should live its life in terror, squalor, and pain. And you don’t have to be a vegan to believe that. I know a lot of people disagree with me, and I respect that, but I do think it’s possible to raise livestock for food without torturing the animals.

    And this Bravo Meatpacking slaughterhouse needs to get shut down.

  11. birkwearingblamer

    Posted on FB with a call out to all animal lovers. I have some friends from NJ so I hope they can help.

  12. AileenWuornos

    This fills me with so much disgust, sadness and rage. :(
    Do you think the process for other starved dead flesh… sorry, “lean meat” would be similar?
    Things like this are just so incredibly wrong.

  13. niki

    I’m a spinster aunt and I’m terrified of horses. Can I still hang out in your treehouse?

  14. Shopstewardess

    Deliberately starving animals in order to produce “lean meat” sounds to me like something out of the sick mind of a thriller/sci-fi villain. It’s extraordinary to think that this could be not just tolerated but actively supported by officialdom, in a country that likes to think of itself as civilised.

    Contrary to what DavidC apparently thinks, it certainly doesn’t sound to me like anything done in the mainstream, reputable agricultural industry, where lean meat comes from particular cuts of meat, from younger animals, from particular breeds, and from animals reared using extensive methods(ie the animal eating natural foods while roaming over large areas) rather than intensive methods.

  15. gerda

    ‘lean’? those animals are way past lean, if he truly wants lean meat he should be getting fallen race horses straight off the course. those poor creatures have been burning muscle for some time by the look of them, so not only is this geezer torturing animals, he is getting a poor return on each animal.
    i’m a meat eater but find this horrific and pointless. good luck with the campaign.

  16. gerda

    another thought; if he is trying to replicate a ‘natural’ diet for lions etc. then deer would be a much better substitute than horse anyway.

  17. Eli Osaurus

    Reading spinnister aunts first hand commentary on boils of the ass is of particular interest to this humble blamer. As a sufferer of ass boils, I have had the joyful pleasure of my most private bits being drawn crudely by some Dr. Dude MD as he poorly explains what I can only describe as “ass relocation surgery” as he scribbles mindlessly over my poorly drawn anus with a fancy pen. I truly believe that even my ass boil has the patriarchy to blame for it’s existance, and would look forward to your commentary.

    As for these scumbags, all I can echo is: GO VEGAN… Or at least, locally produced, biodinamic, organic, carbon nutral FREE RANGE goods, and write some strongly worded letters.

  18. Antoinette Niebieszczanski

    My niece’s daughter recently rescued an abused pony, and what these animals are made to suffer is both stomach-turning and heart-wrenching to anyone with even the vaguest sense of compassion.

    All oppression is indeed interconnected. I don’t live in New Jersey, but I’ll still be happy to make a phone call and send a heads-up to my pals in the rescue community.

  19. speedbudget

    Posted to Facebook. Hopefully there are some people in my network with some pull. What a shame and an embarrassment, and I just wanted to reach into the video and pull all those horses home with me even though I know nothing at all about horses except they smell good when you’re close to them.

    How can someone do that to another living being? I just don’t comprehend how someone can treat a being like that and live with themselves, although the comments about the drug problem and rehab and the beer can flying out of the truck lead me to believe deep down the man knew it was wrong.

    And drunk driving while pulling a trailer? Seriously? How dumb can you be?

  20. CassieC

    Fun fact from Cambridge Mass, maybe 10 years ago. Someone was violently killing some geese near the river – psycho stuff. The people who cared about the geese (this was Cambridge, so there was a whole NGO of them) went to the police and no one cared. A few months and geese later, a dead woman showed up, same area, similar violence.

    Violence against animals should never, ever be dismissed. It’s not limited to animals. Condoning abuse of pets or torture of insects because “boys will be boys” or “they’re just children playing” is guaranteed to lead to more and worse further up on the food chain.

  21. Carolyn

    WTF is with the baseball bat beating shit? How can that possibly have related to the ‘experiment’ or made any possible additional profit for the business? Also I’m sure people here have said this before, but Derrick Jensen has a lot to valuable things to say about this subject. The only book of his I’ve read so far is The Culture of Make Believe, and it was such a gut-wrenching experience I’m still steeling myself to pick up another one, but A Language Older than Words apparently more directly addresses this issue of casual violence.

  22. slythwolf

    You know, I bet the Big Cat Rescue people would be good allies in this since anything that cuts off a source of food for people’s illegal exotic cats is going to cut down on ownership/abuse of them.

  23. julia

    can i blow off off a bit of steam about another topic? please? a male police officer was killed in ottawa, ontario, canada, last week. and i am sorry for it – all problems with law enforcement aside. but if i hear ONE MORE police officer say on the radio that the reason he died was only because of his job, not who he was, i will … well, blog here, and keep my mouth shut on the streets in earshot of cops. don’t they get it? women are demeaned and assaulted and killed EVERY DAY in our world, and the cops and media certainly don’t go all out on that. nope. i want to say it maybe gives them a taste of what it’s like out there … well, guess i just said it. thanks, twisty. and i am glad you are looking out for horses. keep all your twistiness up.

  24. Butterflywings

    Agree with Larkspur.
    Treating animals cruelly is just…disgusting…NO animal needs to suffer.
    This is not the same thing as meaning it is wrong to eat meat.
    Factory farming is wrong, sure. That is the point. I think the industrialisation of meat production is wrong, but not eating meat, per se.
    Humans are omnivores and do not need to eat meat daily, only once a week or so.

  25. anna

    More NJ crap: The NJ Senate just legally prohibited LGBTQ people from getting married.

  26. yttik

    Yes, apparently selling black market kidneys and torturing horses is acceptable in NJ, but gays getting married would be immoral.

  27. veganrampage

    AwwwwwwwwwwFUCK! I loathe them with a white hot hatred they can only dream of. Were there only a hell.

  28. Susan

    This is sickening. I live in a Big City, so could not adopt an abused horse, but I’d gladly contribute so that a country-living spinster aunt or two could afford to help a few more. What is a decent organization to give to toward that end?

  29. The Voracious Vegan

    As a life long horse lover and current horse guardian this makes me absolutely sick. Thanks for sharing this info with us and getting the word out there about this sick operation.

    All oppression and violence is interconnected. GO VEGAN.

  30. speedbudget

    CassieC: In fact, many mass murderers start out with torturing and abusing animals in childhood and when they are teenagers. It’s a way of experimenting and inuring yourself to the violence and pain. It’s practice.

    But of course the cops don’t take that seriously. Just like around here when women were calling the cops cause some guy was stealing their underwear off the line or staring in the windows. The cops decided it was no big deal. Then the guy became a serial rapist.

  31. Jill

    Susan: beware of horse “rescues”; they are often scams, and the scammers are often compulsive hoarders who take on way more horses than they can reasonably keep. Horror stories abound on the Fugly blog. One horse rescue I can vouch for is Austin-based LOPE, which rehabs and rehomes off-the-track race horses. Check’em out. The founder of LOPE has a new book out, in fact, chronicling her adventures in horse rescueship. I haven’t read it, but I assume it’s heartwarming.

    I don’t personally have the infrastructure to take on rescue horses myself, alas.

  32. Windswept

    “Humans are omnivores and do not need to eat meat daily, only once a week or so.”

    I really, really don’t want to go down this path and stir up arguments, but I’ll just say this: the human body does not NEED meat at all, hence why so many veg people aren’t falling over dead or ill. Eating meat is a choice, not a necessity.

  33. Larkspur

    Twisty, what if those of us currently drifting through this economy (or those of us about to become unmoored) kind of sort of migrated to El Rancho, it spite of the rattlers and brown recluses. We could build a nice bunkhouse, to your specs, raise whatever crops will grow where it rains two or three times a decade, and then start El Rancho de Caballos Rescatado. You might have to climb into a Mom-approved nice tailored suit, as spokespinster, because funding may be needed. And we might have to do a reality show, like Dog Town in Utah. You could always delegate the spokespinster position. But not me. In actual life, I am terse and laconic.

  34. Squiggy

    ‘ Eating meat is a choice, not a necessity.’
    For real. There are better ways to get optimal nutrition, no matter what ‘your doctor’ says.

  35. Jezebella

    Larkspur, I would not be surprised if the answer was, much along the lines of “start your own blog”, “start your own horse-rescue radfem commune.” Holla when you’ve got some land, I think you’d have some company.

  36. Hattie

    I eat chicken, local fish, shrimp, and grass fed local beef. I do not feel well unless I eat meat and even more important, dairy products. I avoid all products raised with hormones or antibiotics. My daughters both were vegetarians for a spell but just could not keep their energy up on a veg. diet. I do have East Indian friends who are ovo-lacto vegetarians who eat a very sophisticated diet developed over centuries. They don’t have weight problems but they do suffer from low energy and high blood pressure and bouts of anemia.
    Anyway, I think I’ll go see what’s out there about vegetarians and health issues.
    I sometimes think about what it must have been like when animals had to labor. Death could have seemed sweet to them in those days.
    Torturing animals is wrong; anyone should understand that.

  37. Larkspur

    Jezebella, I am sure you are right on all counts. I’m just trying to glom onto Twisty on account of I really want to meet Stanley and Maypearl.

    By the way, even if we all went vegan overnight, or over several generations, there would still be so much to discuss in terms of how we humans get along with the other life forms on the planet. For example, there’s the big issue of our companion animals. Dogs and humans hitched their lives together thousands of years ago, and I don’t see that changing, even as we make inroads against animal abuse and negligent breeding. So we still have to decide how we treat them, as a society, as well as what’s involved in keeping them healthy. I’ve heard of people feeding their cats and dogs vegetarian diets, but it doesn’t seem viable. So we would still be raising livestock, and we’d still have to be sure we’re treating livestock humanely.

    Also, there’s the issue of zoos, preserves, and endangered species. I’d like to see us phase out the keeping of exotic animals by individuals, or by any group other than a rescue or animal sanctuary program that can be held accountable.

    If we were to radically scale back our consumption of animal products, and that sounds like a good idea in terms of humane treatment, land usage, and general health, we still have to deal with the large-scale reduction of livestock herds, and whether it’s ethical for people to continue to raise livestock as a hobby, or to preserve breed varieties.

    One simple example from one of Temple Grandin’s books involves people keeping snakes in captivity. Whether you think snakes are cool pets, or you’re running a zoo, preserve, or sanctuary, you still have to feed them. I could never keep a snake, because I couldn’t bear to feed them mice. Grandin says that there’s no excuse for feeding snakes live mice, because it inflicts unnecessary terror on the mice. Snakes will happily consume freshly killed mice, and Grandin thinks it’s incumbent upon the human caretakers to kill the mice quickly and humanely before serving them to the snakes. I’d have a hard time doing that.

    Mice have cute little faces. One time I was housesitting and had to buy a bag of crickets to feed to the iguanas or geckos (I can’t remember which). I felt a little bad about that, but crickets don’t have faces like mice do, although presumably they’d rather live out their little cricket lives. But anthropomorphizing can lead us inadvertently into mistreatment.

    Blah blah blah. I talk too much. I should revisit that terse and laconic concept. Have a good weekend, everyone.

  38. jezebella

    When a meat-eater reels out their menu and then defends it, It feels awfully similar to the “but I looooove b-d-s-m and it’s good for me” posts. It’s TMI.

  39. Jill

    “had to buy a bag of crickets to feed to the iguanas”

    I had no business doing this, but for a short time, when I was a lot stupider than I am now, I kept an anole in an aquarium. Anoles in captivity eat small crickets. At the pet store they were out of small crickets, so I bought some large and put’em in there with the anole. Next morning horrific carnage; the crickets had killed and eaten the lizard.

    On the subject of diet, I just cannot understand how any sane person can argue that eating factory meat is in any way, shape, or form OK. Persons who believe they must consume muscle tissue “once a week” ought to be ethically constrained to raise and kill this meat personally. It just doesn’t seem quite right to isolate oneself from the gory reality while at the same time going around claiming to be enlightened about oppression culture. Yuck.

  40. Butterflywings

    Hi Larkspur, not looking for an argument either. You’re right, people do not *need* to eat meat. Humans are not obligate carnivores (as some animals are). I perhaps phrased that badly; what I meant was that if people do eat meat, there is no reason why they should have it daily/ most days. Which a lot of people (in the west) do, but that’s just the modern western diet.

    This leads to factory farming, to produce meat in the quantities required (and cheaply enough that most people can afford it). I intended to make the point that this volume is *not* sustainable, and to advocate eating *less* meat, humanely farmed.

    Throughout history, most humans have not eaten meat that frequently, and humans are probably *not* ‘designed’ to. (Before anyone picks up on that, I don’t believe we were designed at all, being an atheist).

    That said, as other commenters have alluded to, a vegetarian diet can lead to health issues if the person doesn’t know about nutrition – getting enough protein being one issue. (As I said, I was actually veggie for a while, so do speak from experience). But that wasn’t really the point I was making.

    I was certainly not arguing against vegetarianism. I have been a vegetarian, briefly, and can respect (although I no longer agree with) the reasons why people do choose to be vegetarians.

    It is certainly possible to think that eating meat is not morally wrong, but that cruelty to animals is.

    Jill, I am taken aback by your last comment, which I assume was addressed to me, although you did not address me by name. I specifically said in my post that factory farming is wrong, so I am puzzled as to why you think I was defending it. As I’ve explained above, I wasn’t advocating the eating of meat once per week, or to any particular schedule.

    I actually agree with you – people who eat meat ought to know where it comes from, and to be comfortable with killing the livestock themselves. There is too much disconnection between the process of meat production and the result.

    This means a lot less of said livestock being raised, and a return to more traditional non-intensive farming.
    In fact, this is a growing movement in the UK; I was watching a TV programme called ‘Kill It, Cook It, Eat It’.

    It seems then that the only difference in our positions is that I don’t think eating meat is inherently wrong, so long as livestock is raised ethically and humanely, whereas you do.

    I hope that clarifies.

    But then, this isn’t the first time you have unecessarily been snarky towards me in the comments. I seem unwittingly to have offended you, so won’t bother you by commenting again.

  41. Jan

    Horses, being “prey” animals (which men in patriarchy attempt to make women), are our natural kin. Appreciate very much the awareness you’re bringing to this topic, Jill. May Nemesis be with all creatures in unseen spiritual ways supporting Life against the death-dealers.

  42. Hattie

    Unlike many here, I make no particular claims about being enlightened about much of anything. My worries tend more in the direction of what’s happening to humans.
    But I certainly respect vegetarians, or at any rate don’t see why anyone should object if their fellow humans don’t want to eat meat.

  43. Susan

    FYI, just today Fugly announced the first two horse rescue organizations to become accredited, allowing me to virtually foster parent a horse. This program is very cool. I hope my horse does well.

  44. PandanCat

    How about some of that new vat-grown meat they say they’ve just figured out how to make? I rather like the idea, myself. The actual product might not be such great shakes, but it’s a neat idea.

  45. Jill

    Hey Butterflywings, I was not addressing my previous comment to you personally, although I can understand that you imagined I had, since I put words you used — “once a week” — in quotation marks. I am addressing this comment to you, though. Sorry to have unwittingly made you feel as though you have unwittingingly offended me, which you have not.

  46. Larkspur

    “…Next morning horrific carnage; the crickets had killed and eaten the lizard….”

    Yikes. In fact, OMG jeebus. That is, on a very small stage, a long time ago, my nightmare. It’s not a “Wild Kingdom” moment. You meant to do the right thing, then everything turns upside down and inside out, and you have Killer Crickets and lizard blood on your hands.

    Butterflywings, you make some very good points.

  47. Felicity

    Arguing why meat consumption is ok sounds like the arguments put forward for why sexism is ok. Oppressions are indeed related.

  48. Kookaburra

    Huh, Fugly seems to have expanded her subject matter since the last time I looked in (which admittedly was several years ago). The site left a bit of a sour taste as the general consensus seemed to be that if one couldn’t afford a horse that was destined to win A-show halter classes and travel to shows every weekend, and buy the latest and greatest tack and accessories, one just didn’t deserve to have a horse.

  49. nails

    My understanding is that there is a b vitamin that vegans need to supplement with because outside of meat it doesn’t really occur in food naturally. HOWEVER, it takes years for people to become deficient in it, and you can buy pills of it that come from a bacterial source of some sort.

    This is all off the top of my head so I’m probably wrong about some part of it somewhere.

  50. veganrampage

    Factory farming = Animal extraordinary rendition.

    The homosapien myth of hunter gather is a lie repeated so often one almost automatically believes it. Gatherer scavenger is much closer to the truth, but not quite so macho so the P can’t abide it.

    Human teeth were never evolved to eat raw meat. I can’t recall when we learned to use fire but it wasn’t all that long ago in evolutionary terms. A cat’s teeth are the mark of a true carnivore. The canine family can eat something like %30 of plant material in their diet. Now take a gander at your own teeth. There are no canine teeth strong enough to rend raw flesh in your mouth.

    I wish they ran those videos of the animals in their screaming death agonies right above the meat section in the grocery store. They should post the average urine and feces count in each lb. of meat too.

    If you are buying the rotting carcass of a tortured dead pig there is a slight chance that pig has been raped by an insanely cruel sick fuck farm worker. Have a nice day.

  51. speedbudget

    I read this book recently, and the new theory is that instead of scavenging, which is risky at best (rotted food, angry carnivores) and a very dicey way to make a living, humans actually literally ran prey animals to death. Still, most of the food came from the gathering, and everyone was involved in the running, male and female. It doesn’t take a lot of physical strength to run something to exhaustion, just good conditioning and teamwork.

    Not adding this for any reason other than I thought the book was really interesting and it certainly changed my view on how early human societies might have worked.

  52. rickety

    Feminists who focus on animal cruelty rather than cruelty and abuse to elder women are missing the point, if not completely ageist and sexist, since the majority of the aged in care are women; being starved and dehydrated to death, left to rot in their urine and feces, their family or caregivers (if there are any) refused access, hit, raped vaginally and anally, threatened, fed their own feces as punishment. All this, not rare. Any idea why this happens? Any idea why feminists are weeping over horse and cats in shelters, but not the generation that preceded them?

  53. Sarah

    Delayed response to Larkspur’s proposition: I will gladly fill the role of PR hack for El Rancho de Caballos Rescatado if ever you start one. I know nothing of horses, but donning a Mom-approved tailored suit for the cause of a radfem animal-rescue operation/commune would certainly be a lot more fun than donning one for Corporate America.

  54. blondie

    Wonder what would happen if steakhouses had little pens of calves in front, where patrons would select the animal they want to eat, the way they do with lobsters in some restaurants.

  55. Jezebella

    Blondie, I’ll tell you what (sort of) happened to me, once: I ate a delicious hamburger at a place called Fuddrucker’s, where they hang the cow carcass in a window so you can see how fresh the beef is. I walked out, after enjoying a delicious hamburger, took one look at that cow-shaped meat in the window, and never ate beef again. This was not, I am certain, the intent of hanging the cow in a visible spot.

    Living, gamboling, adorable little calves in a pen? No way would your average American order one up to be slaughtered and served. Watch what happens when a bunch of carnivores show up at a BBQ to find the pig has been roasted whole. About 80% will get all grossed out, even though they eat pig or cow every day of their lives. They just don’t want to SEE the animal they’re eating. Sure, some people love it, but lots? Like to pretend meat is grown inside a styrofoam and plastic-wrap package.

  56. Jill

    “Feminists who focus on animal cruelty rather than cruelty and abuse to elder women are missing the point”

    Your annoying comment falls into what I like to call the old “how dare you discuss [this frivolous topic] when people are dying in Transylvania?” category of annoying comments. Read the FAQ, please.

  57. j

    I think eating meat and veganism is a feminist issue, in a different way. Women have been denied nutrious food in most patriarchal societes to keep us in line.
    Pre-agriculture, people have gotten their most nutrition from animal meat and animal fat. I know this is true for people living in the northern hemisphere at least, think of inuits for example. Animal fat such as fatty diary products are actually very important to consume for energy, eating lean meat and low-fat dairy products makes the body think it’s starving. Naomi Wolf
    had an interesting theory in her book The Beauty Myth about the modern slim ideal and obsession with losing weight was to keep women from using our energy for important things.
    Why do you think patriarchy likes to sell low-fat products to women so much? First we are told we are way too fat, then we eat their proccessed low-fat margarine and what not, keep being hungry and eat a lot of unheathy candy and fast food in order to get the fat and protein. Feel guilty and buy more diet products. Repeat.
    I’ve met too many girls who were vegans or vegatrians because they cared deeply about animals, but also because they had eating disorders. I was one of them.

    When it comes to buying food, in the end I don’t think the important thing is which kind of food you buy, but how it’s produced. Organic, local meat is more ethical to buy than imported gmo soyproducts in my opinion.

  58. agasaya

    You have fewer dietary choices than you know. Have you, particularly those of you with health problems, ever had a vitamin, mineral and amino acid assay of your blood? Your nutritional needs aren’t theoretical but individual. The pollution around you not only depletes you of nutrients you take in (which ought to be adequate for a human), but alters genetics and the availability of protective/catalyst enzymes to actually derive whatever benefits it has retained after processing. It also guarantees even a healthy diet won’t net you sufficient nutrients lost in the battle to purge your body of toxicants and over burdening by metals/constituents which compete with each other for absorption.

    Solvents leach iron and calcium from your system explaining a lot of anemia in people with good diets (they’ll point to menstruation for women of course); too much zinc won’t allow you to absorb other minerals -the zinc in denture adhesive was just found to be crippling users via that mechanism.

    ‘Choice’ requires data on what your needs are before you live according to preference. Meat and fish is not a luxury or vice for many people. The system producing these meals may be oppressive but dying for lack of sustenance in the presence of abundance in this country is common. Ignorance (withholding of critical data by industry)and ‘druthers’ (advertising and practices marketed as philosophy) are killing most of us. The main form of oppression under patriarchy is that of mandated ignorance and co-opting us into denial.

    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/sciencemedicine/story/D822D16988008F43862576AA000958E1?OpenDocument

  59. Genevieve

    Rickety–
    Thanks for assuming that you know exactly what all of the commenters here do in their personal lives, and that due to our concern for animals we couldn’t possibly be against elder abuse.

    On the meat/veg question–
    I haven’t seen anyone saying this here, but one thing I absolutely hate is when meat-eaters get so fucking defensive about their habits that they say stuff like, “Humans are carnivores! Vegetarianism is stupid!” Way to live an unexamined life there, dude.

    About the horses–
    This makes me so sad.

  60. Greenconsciousness

    Thank You — I too will pass this on.

  61. p

    WoW just heard about this thru blog thru a friend of mine & had to read it. This post is being sent the writer of this Jill… What kinda a person writes a blog about people who were suppose to be so called starving their soon to be slaughtered horses & includes the fact that the one of the owner & operators of this company had recently died & that you a so called person WHO CARES about animals suffering. Would write you hope they suffered, my dear I hope that comes back to you in life because remember GOD DON’T LIKE UGLY!!!!! To me that was a little bit uncalled for & you made yourself sound worse than those owners by wishing suffering a human being all over horses that sadly already had 3 legs in the ground.. Maybe in your next blog you can learn to stick to the story of the company & the owners personals, like that had anything to with what your so called concerns were about… did putting any of their personal issues help your blog? Next time try to stick to your story & not so much on things that have nothing to do with your so called concerns…. p.s. I am a horse owner & have been for 38yrs… Isn’t all this just a part of the so called circle of life hmmm

  62. KAH

    Is Bravo still in operation actively slaughtering on the premise?

  63. Robynne Catheron

    KAH, yes they are. And it’s just as sick as it ever was. However, I think he gets away with it because he uses the horses in his kill pen as target practice with his 22, professing to kill them before he strings them up. Word has it they’re not always dead when he starts cutting on them. If you’re interested in helping shut this horrendous operating down, check out I OPPOSE SLAUGHTER page on Facebook. The owner of Bravo Meat Packing is a very sick and depraved man.

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