Comments on: Spinster aunt speaks out agin crapulent sickos in horse industry http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/01/06/spinster-aunt-speaks-out-agin-crumulent-sickos-in-horse-industry/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:18:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: KAH http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/01/06/spinster-aunt-speaks-out-agin-crumulent-sickos-in-horse-industry/#comment-189397 KAH Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:59:03 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3299#comment-189397 Is Bravo still in operation actively slaughtering on the premise? Is Bravo still in operation actively slaughtering on the premise?

]]> By: p http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/01/06/spinster-aunt-speaks-out-agin-crumulent-sickos-in-horse-industry/#comment-182499 p Wed, 24 Aug 2011 01:14:05 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3299#comment-182499 WoW just heard about this thru blog thru a friend of mine & had to read it. This post is being sent the writer of this Jill... What kinda a person writes a blog about people who were suppose to be so called starving their soon to be slaughtered horses & includes the fact that the one of the owner & operators of this company had recently died & that you a so called person WHO CARES about animals suffering. Would write you hope they suffered, my dear I hope that comes back to you in life because remember GOD DON'T LIKE UGLY!!!!! To me that was a little bit uncalled for & you made yourself sound worse than those owners by wishing suffering a human being all over horses that sadly already had 3 legs in the ground.. Maybe in your next blog you can learn to stick to the story of the company & the owners personals, like that had anything to with what your so called concerns were about... did putting any of their personal issues help your blog? Next time try to stick to your story & not so much on things that have nothing to do with your so called concerns.... p.s. I am a horse owner & have been for 38yrs... Isn't all this just a part of the so called circle of life hmmm WoW just heard about this thru blog thru a friend of mine & had to read it. This post is being sent the writer of this Jill… What kinda a person writes a blog about people who were suppose to be so called starving their soon to be slaughtered horses & includes the fact that the one of the owner & operators of this company had recently died & that you a so called person WHO CARES about animals suffering. Would write you hope they suffered, my dear I hope that comes back to you in life because remember GOD DON’T LIKE UGLY!!!!! To me that was a little bit uncalled for & you made yourself sound worse than those owners by wishing suffering a human being all over horses that sadly already had 3 legs in the ground.. Maybe in your next blog you can learn to stick to the story of the company & the owners personals, like that had anything to with what your so called concerns were about… did putting any of their personal issues help your blog? Next time try to stick to your story & not so much on things that have nothing to do with your so called concerns…. p.s. I am a horse owner & have been for 38yrs… Isn’t all this just a part of the so called circle of life hmmm

]]> By: Greenconsciousness http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/01/06/spinster-aunt-speaks-out-agin-crumulent-sickos-in-horse-industry/#comment-158310 Greenconsciousness Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:16:08 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3299#comment-158310 Thank You -- I too will pass this on. Thank You — I too will pass this on.

]]> By: Weekly Wednesday Wrap-Up #1 « The Voracious Vegan http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/01/06/spinster-aunt-speaks-out-agin-crumulent-sickos-in-horse-industry/#comment-158301 Weekly Wednesday Wrap-Up #1 « The Voracious Vegan Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:24:03 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3299#comment-158301 [...] Spinster Aunt Speaks Out Against Crapulent Sickos in the Horse Industry - This is one of my very favorite sites in the whole of internet-land. She is a radical feminist, a vegan, a fellow horse lover, and a hilariously brilliant writer. She is gnarly and perfect, and you must read everything she writes. Promise? (via I Blame the Patriarchy) [...] [...] Spinster Aunt Speaks Out Against Crapulent Sickos in the Horse Industry – This is one of my very favorite sites in the whole of internet-land. She is a radical feminist, a vegan, a fellow horse lover, and a hilariously brilliant writer. She is gnarly and perfect, and you must read everything she writes. Promise? (via I Blame the Patriarchy) [...]

]]> By: Genevieve http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/01/06/spinster-aunt-speaks-out-agin-crumulent-sickos-in-horse-industry/#comment-158191 Genevieve Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:21:30 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3299#comment-158191 Rickety-- Thanks for assuming that you know exactly what all of the commenters here do in their personal lives, and that due to our concern for animals we couldn't <i>possibly</i> be against elder abuse. On the meat/veg question-- I haven't seen anyone saying this here, but one thing I absolutely hate is when meat-eaters get so fucking defensive about their habits that they say stuff like, "Humans are carnivores! Vegetarianism is stupid!" Way to live an unexamined life there, dude. About the horses-- This makes me so sad. Rickety–
Thanks for assuming that you know exactly what all of the commenters here do in their personal lives, and that due to our concern for animals we couldn’t possibly be against elder abuse.

On the meat/veg question–
I haven’t seen anyone saying this here, but one thing I absolutely hate is when meat-eaters get so fucking defensive about their habits that they say stuff like, “Humans are carnivores! Vegetarianism is stupid!” Way to live an unexamined life there, dude.

About the horses–
This makes me so sad.

]]> By: agasaya http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/01/06/spinster-aunt-speaks-out-agin-crumulent-sickos-in-horse-industry/#comment-158131 agasaya Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:45:48 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3299#comment-158131 You have fewer dietary choices than you know. Have you, particularly those of you with health problems, ever had a vitamin, mineral and amino acid assay of your blood? Your nutritional needs aren't theoretical but individual. The pollution around you not only depletes you of nutrients you take in (which ought to be adequate for a human), but alters genetics and the availability of protective/catalyst enzymes to actually derive whatever benefits it has retained after processing. It also guarantees even a healthy diet won't net you sufficient nutrients lost in the battle to purge your body of toxicants and over burdening by metals/constituents which compete with each other for absorption. Solvents leach iron and calcium from your system explaining a lot of anemia in people with good diets (they'll point to menstruation for women of course); too much zinc won't allow you to absorb other minerals -the zinc in denture adhesive was just found to be crippling users via that mechanism. 'Choice' requires data on what your needs are before you live according to preference. Meat and fish is not a luxury or vice for many people. The system producing these meals may be oppressive but dying for lack of sustenance in the presence of abundance in this country is common. Ignorance (withholding of critical data by industry)and 'druthers' (advertising and practices marketed as philosophy) are killing most of us. The main form of oppression under patriarchy is that of mandated ignorance and co-opting us into denial. http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/sciencemedicine/story/D822D16988008F43862576AA000958E1?OpenDocument You have fewer dietary choices than you know. Have you, particularly those of you with health problems, ever had a vitamin, mineral and amino acid assay of your blood? Your nutritional needs aren’t theoretical but individual. The pollution around you not only depletes you of nutrients you take in (which ought to be adequate for a human), but alters genetics and the availability of protective/catalyst enzymes to actually derive whatever benefits it has retained after processing. It also guarantees even a healthy diet won’t net you sufficient nutrients lost in the battle to purge your body of toxicants and over burdening by metals/constituents which compete with each other for absorption.

Solvents leach iron and calcium from your system explaining a lot of anemia in people with good diets (they’ll point to menstruation for women of course); too much zinc won’t allow you to absorb other minerals -the zinc in denture adhesive was just found to be crippling users via that mechanism.

‘Choice’ requires data on what your needs are before you live according to preference. Meat and fish is not a luxury or vice for many people. The system producing these meals may be oppressive but dying for lack of sustenance in the presence of abundance in this country is common. Ignorance (withholding of critical data by industry)and ‘druthers’ (advertising and practices marketed as philosophy) are killing most of us. The main form of oppression under patriarchy is that of mandated ignorance and co-opting us into denial.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/sciencemedicine/story/D822D16988008F43862576AA000958E1?OpenDocument

]]> By: j http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/01/06/spinster-aunt-speaks-out-agin-crumulent-sickos-in-horse-industry/#comment-158129 j Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:59:37 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3299#comment-158129 I think eating meat and veganism is a feminist issue, in a different way. Women have been denied nutrious food in most patriarchal societes to keep us in line. Pre-agriculture, people have gotten their most nutrition from animal meat and animal fat. I know this is true for people living in the northern hemisphere at least, think of inuits for example. Animal fat such as fatty diary products are actually very important to consume for energy, eating lean meat and low-fat dairy products makes the body think it's starving. Naomi Wolf had an interesting theory in her book The Beauty Myth about the modern slim ideal and obsession with losing weight was to keep women from using our energy for important things. Why do you think patriarchy likes to sell low-fat products to women so much? First we are told we are way too fat, then we eat their proccessed low-fat margarine and what not, keep being hungry and eat a lot of unheathy candy and fast food in order to get the fat and protein. Feel guilty and buy more diet products. Repeat. I've met too many girls who were vegans or vegatrians because they cared deeply about animals, but also because they had eating disorders. I was one of them. When it comes to buying food, in the end I don't think the important thing is which kind of food you buy, but how it's produced. Organic, local meat is more ethical to buy than imported gmo soyproducts in my opinion. I think eating meat and veganism is a feminist issue, in a different way. Women have been denied nutrious food in most patriarchal societes to keep us in line.
Pre-agriculture, people have gotten their most nutrition from animal meat and animal fat. I know this is true for people living in the northern hemisphere at least, think of inuits for example. Animal fat such as fatty diary products are actually very important to consume for energy, eating lean meat and low-fat dairy products makes the body think it’s starving. Naomi Wolf
had an interesting theory in her book The Beauty Myth about the modern slim ideal and obsession with losing weight was to keep women from using our energy for important things.
Why do you think patriarchy likes to sell low-fat products to women so much? First we are told we are way too fat, then we eat their proccessed low-fat margarine and what not, keep being hungry and eat a lot of unheathy candy and fast food in order to get the fat and protein. Feel guilty and buy more diet products. Repeat.
I’ve met too many girls who were vegans or vegatrians because they cared deeply about animals, but also because they had eating disorders. I was one of them.

When it comes to buying food, in the end I don’t think the important thing is which kind of food you buy, but how it’s produced. Organic, local meat is more ethical to buy than imported gmo soyproducts in my opinion.

]]> By: Jill http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/01/06/spinster-aunt-speaks-out-agin-crumulent-sickos-in-horse-industry/#comment-158098 Jill Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:14:25 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3299#comment-158098 <em>"Feminists who focus on animal cruelty rather than cruelty and abuse to elder women are missing the point"</em> Your annoying comment falls into what I like to call the old “how dare you discuss [this frivolous topic] when people are dying in Transylvania?” category of annoying comments. Read the FAQ, please. “Feminists who focus on animal cruelty rather than cruelty and abuse to elder women are missing the point”

Your annoying comment falls into what I like to call the old “how dare you discuss [this frivolous topic] when people are dying in Transylvania?” category of annoying comments. Read the FAQ, please.

]]> By: Jezebella http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/01/06/spinster-aunt-speaks-out-agin-crumulent-sickos-in-horse-industry/#comment-158093 Jezebella Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:55:39 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3299#comment-158093 Blondie, I'll tell you what (sort of) happened to me, once: I ate a delicious hamburger at a place called Fuddrucker's, where they hang the cow carcass in a window so you can see how fresh the beef is. I walked out, after enjoying a delicious hamburger, took one look at that cow-shaped meat in the window, and never ate beef again. This was not, I am certain, the intent of hanging the cow in a visible spot. Living, gamboling, adorable little calves in a pen? No way would your average American order one up to be slaughtered and served. Watch what happens when a bunch of carnivores show up at a BBQ to find the pig has been roasted whole. About 80% will get all grossed out, even though they eat pig or cow every day of their lives. They just don't want to SEE the animal they're eating. Sure, some people love it, but lots? Like to pretend meat is grown inside a styrofoam and plastic-wrap package. Blondie, I’ll tell you what (sort of) happened to me, once: I ate a delicious hamburger at a place called Fuddrucker’s, where they hang the cow carcass in a window so you can see how fresh the beef is. I walked out, after enjoying a delicious hamburger, took one look at that cow-shaped meat in the window, and never ate beef again. This was not, I am certain, the intent of hanging the cow in a visible spot.

Living, gamboling, adorable little calves in a pen? No way would your average American order one up to be slaughtered and served. Watch what happens when a bunch of carnivores show up at a BBQ to find the pig has been roasted whole. About 80% will get all grossed out, even though they eat pig or cow every day of their lives. They just don’t want to SEE the animal they’re eating. Sure, some people love it, but lots? Like to pretend meat is grown inside a styrofoam and plastic-wrap package.

]]> By: blondie http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/01/06/spinster-aunt-speaks-out-agin-crumulent-sickos-in-horse-industry/#comment-158092 blondie Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:49:50 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3299#comment-158092 Wonder what would happen if steakhouses had little pens of calves in front, where patrons would select the animal they want to eat, the way they do with lobsters in some restaurants. Wonder what would happen if steakhouses had little pens of calves in front, where patrons would select the animal they want to eat, the way they do with lobsters in some restaurants.

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