Comments on: Is your pout plump enough? http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/02/22/is-your-pout-plump-enough/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:47:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The Nutcracker http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/02/22/is-your-pout-plump-enough/#comment-170207 The Nutcracker Fri, 12 Nov 2010 04:38:57 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3448#comment-170207 I occasionally come to this blog and lurk,read. Sometimes I just miss a lot of good entries. I sighed in relief when reading this thread. I thought I was the only female in the world who realized this "If we beat men to the punch-we win!" is complete phallocentric bull. It's just making their job easier -I would love to see oodles of men who cry about being "exposed" due to this "sex-positive" attitude some trendfems have. I've never heard of a man shedding a single tear when some woman chose to wiggle her ass near his lap that wasn't tears of joy. Sadly I am of the generation where funfeminism is rampant and it's shameful,prudish to mention anything of the sort amongst peers. Oh, how the manfunfems would "bitchslap" you by saying because you don't care for funfem theories,that you are insecure with your sexuality. At that point ,between being barked at by sexual leeches (the men who are just trying to Preserve the Privelege of Patriarchy under the disguse as being a sex-pos feminist), and the funfems-I just get tired and stop saying anything. Thank you all for posting these things because I thought I was the only person who felt this way. I occasionally come to this blog and lurk,read. Sometimes I just miss a lot of good entries. I sighed in relief when reading this thread. I thought I was the only female in the world who realized this “If we beat men to the punch-we win!” is complete phallocentric bull. It’s just making their job easier -I would love to see oodles of men who cry about being “exposed” due to this “sex-positive” attitude some trendfems have. I’ve never heard of a man shedding a single tear when some woman chose to wiggle her ass near his lap that wasn’t tears of joy. Sadly I am of the generation where funfeminism is rampant and it’s shameful,prudish to mention anything of the sort amongst peers.

Oh, how the manfunfems would “bitchslap” you by saying because you don’t care for funfem theories,that you are insecure with your sexuality. At that point ,between being barked at by sexual leeches (the men who are just trying to Preserve the Privelege of Patriarchy under the disguse as being a sex-pos feminist), and the funfems-I just get tired and stop saying anything.

Thank you all for posting these things because I thought I was the only person who felt this way.

]]> By: mearl http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/02/22/is-your-pout-plump-enough/#comment-161268 mearl Sun, 18 Apr 2010 05:32:17 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3448#comment-161268 Thanks again to Athena, Ciccina, and nails for the links. And everyone else for your bang-on comments. I have that emetic, I mean, BOOK by Maria Elena Buszek in my possession (I'm looking at it right now and getting ill), and it would be going directly into the fire pit out back if it weren't the property of the university. What a straight-up load of gibberish. The only good thing about it is that it actually provides some decent history on pin-ups, dance, stage acting, ballet, and convention-floutin' women from the 19th and early 20th century. I just can't believe Buszek has the temerity to reference Shulamith Firestone and Camille Paglia as though their thinking was TOTALLY on the same page. I had a grand old time bashing neo-Burlesque. I expect that my paper will probably cause my prof to make distressed faces and chastise me in the margins about my closemindedness. Whoo-hoo! Hey, Kelsey, you're a lucky duck: Boston is where they hold the annual Anti-Porn Conference organised by Gail Dines, at Wheelock. I've been wanting to go to that for YEARS. Thanks again to Athena, Ciccina, and nails for the links. And everyone else for your bang-on comments.

I have that emetic, I mean, BOOK by Maria Elena Buszek in my possession (I’m looking at it right now and getting ill), and it would be going directly into the fire pit out back if it weren’t the property of the university. What a straight-up load of gibberish. The only good thing about it is that it actually provides some decent history on pin-ups, dance, stage acting, ballet, and convention-floutin’ women from the 19th and early 20th century. I just can’t believe Buszek has the temerity to reference Shulamith Firestone and Camille Paglia as though their thinking was TOTALLY on the same page.

I had a grand old time bashing neo-Burlesque. I expect that my paper will probably cause my prof to make distressed faces and chastise me in the margins about my closemindedness. Whoo-hoo!

Hey, Kelsey, you’re a lucky duck: Boston is where they hold the annual Anti-Porn Conference organised by Gail Dines, at Wheelock. I’ve been wanting to go to that for YEARS.

]]> By: Kelsey http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/02/22/is-your-pout-plump-enough/#comment-160125 Kelsey Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:31:07 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3448#comment-160125 I love this thread. I'm a MassArt student in Boston, and there's a "feminism" club on campus that is funfeminist crap. Seems like there are some other young Boston folks on here... might I use IBTP to make... FRIENDS? A... READING GROUP EVEN. Oh god. Because I can't seem to find many like minds at school or work. I love this thread.

I’m a MassArt student in Boston, and there’s a “feminism” club on campus that is funfeminist crap. Seems like there are some other young Boston folks on here… might I use IBTP to make… FRIENDS? A… READING GROUP EVEN. Oh god.

Because I can’t seem to find many like minds at school or work.

]]> By: Molly Cameron | The importance of being proper: http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/02/22/is-your-pout-plump-enough/#comment-160044 Molly Cameron | The importance of being proper: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:36:43 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3448#comment-160044 [...] With that said, Adam tipped me off to this blog a while back. And, it is brilliant feminism, in words, on the web. I am really appreciating the intelligent criticism of burlesque in Twisty’s latest post. [...] [...] With that said, Adam tipped me off to this blog a while back. And, it is brilliant feminism, in words, on the web. I am really appreciating the intelligent criticism of burlesque in Twisty’s latest post. [...]

]]> By: Amananta http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/02/22/is-your-pout-plump-enough/#comment-159659 Amananta Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:20:38 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3448#comment-159659 Some years back I tried to inject some reality into the "debate" over how much porn and stripping empowerfulizes women, by mentioning that yes, I had a lot of friends who were strippers, and they were all teen runaways with no other choices in life, and/or drug addicts with no other options in life. Usually the first group became the second group. And none of them felt "empowered". They all hated their jobs, feared and loathed their bosses, feared, despised and mocked their "customers". So I tried to explain that, you know the strip clubs knowingly hire children and make fake IDs for them so that when the cops come to check them out, they check the girls IDs and pretend they are straight up, then leave. I got a response of mingled disbelief and anger, along with a bunch of patronizing remarks about how those girls should totally go to the police and tell them what is really happening, because you know, abused runaway girls have so much reason to believe the authorities will do the right thing. Then to hear someone say in a wondering tone "Wow, men treated me better when I dressed like what the culture agrees is sexy!" - well I just find that really irritating. You know, feminists have pointed this out before. It isn't news. We all know that when we conform to the patriarchal beauty standard, they give us a little tiny cookie of approval. That's not the point. Some years back I tried to inject some reality into the “debate” over how much porn and stripping empowerfulizes women, by mentioning that yes, I had a lot of friends who were strippers, and they were all teen runaways with no other choices in life, and/or drug addicts with no other options in life. Usually the first group became the second group. And none of them felt “empowered”. They all hated their jobs, feared and loathed their bosses, feared, despised and mocked their “customers”. So I tried to explain that, you know the strip clubs knowingly hire children and make fake IDs for them so that when the cops come to check them out, they check the girls IDs and pretend they are straight up, then leave. I got a response of mingled disbelief and anger, along with a bunch of patronizing remarks about how those girls should totally go to the police and tell them what is really happening, because you know, abused runaway girls have so much reason to believe the authorities will do the right thing.
Then to hear someone say in a wondering tone “Wow, men treated me better when I dressed like what the culture agrees is sexy!” – well I just find that really irritating. You know, feminists have pointed this out before. It isn’t news. We all know that when we conform to the patriarchal beauty standard, they give us a little tiny cookie of approval. That’s not the point.

]]> By: speedbudget http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/02/22/is-your-pout-plump-enough/#comment-159656 speedbudget Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:30:09 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3448#comment-159656 Gee, I don't know. Having agency, to me, seems like the best of choices. I think the answer to your question is, no. Gee, I don’t know. Having agency, to me, seems like the best of choices. I think the answer to your question is, no.

]]> By: FemmeForever http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/02/22/is-your-pout-plump-enough/#comment-159655 FemmeForever Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:07:48 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3448#comment-159655 <i>The former is probably more satisfying between the two choices.</i> The former is absolutely more satisfying to pedophiles and supporters of pedophiles. To everyone else a young girl has the RIGHT to a normal, exploratory, unobstructed love life of HER choosing so she can discover for herself just exactly to whom she is attracted. <i>shop herself</i> Whut? We're not talking about a 52-year-old divorcee, here. We're talking about a pre-teen to teenage girl. Did you miss the part about she was 12 and he was 38 when they met? The former is probably more satisfying between the two choices.

The former is absolutely more satisfying to pedophiles and supporters of pedophiles.

To everyone else a young girl has the RIGHT to a normal, exploratory, unobstructed love life of HER choosing so she can discover for herself just exactly to whom she is attracted.

shop herself

Whut? We’re not talking about a 52-year-old divorcee, here. We’re talking about a pre-teen to teenage girl. Did you miss the part about she was 12 and he was 38 when they met?

]]> By: drsnacks http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/02/22/is-your-pout-plump-enough/#comment-159642 drsnacks Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:28:11 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3448#comment-159642 "He stole a young girl’s love life from her so that he would never have any competition. And we all know what that makes him. Of course he ended up convincing her that he was the one she wanted. It is tragically sad." Is that a properly feminist contention? Whether she was groomed for and purchased by a unique buyer or was allowed to shop herself on the free market of sexual objectification makes no difference. The former is probably more satisfying between the two choices. Or do I misunderstand blaming 101? “He stole a young girl’s love life from her so that he would never have any competition. And we all know what that makes him. Of course he ended up convincing her that he was the one she wanted. It is tragically sad.”

Is that a properly feminist contention? Whether she was groomed for and purchased by a unique buyer or was allowed to shop herself on the free market of sexual objectification makes no difference. The former is probably more satisfying between the two choices. Or do I misunderstand blaming 101?

]]> By: Isabel http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/02/22/is-your-pout-plump-enough/#comment-159637 Isabel Mon, 01 Mar 2010 05:26:53 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3448#comment-159637 Nayo, that link was indeed depressing, however the comments ranged from frightening to enlightening to downright entertaining: "# Sorsha on February 26th, 2010 at 2:22 pm: This reminded me of that parody video floating around a while ago. Clitter. Anyone? “Turn your labia into a Yay-bia!” or “Now, instead of a yeast infection, I have a jewel collection!” " Nayo, that link was indeed depressing, however the comments ranged from frightening to enlightening to downright entertaining:

“# Sorsha on February 26th, 2010 at 2:22 pm:

This reminded me of that parody video floating around a while ago.

Clitter.

Anyone?

“Turn your labia into a Yay-bia!”
or
“Now, instead of a yeast infection, I have a jewel collection!”
“

]]> By: Saphire http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/02/22/is-your-pout-plump-enough/#comment-159633 Saphire Mon, 01 Mar 2010 00:56:26 +0000 http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/?p=3448#comment-159633 'You are a vapid idiot with a glittery vagina.' Hahah. Too funny. ‘You are a vapid idiot with a glittery vagina.’

Hahah. Too funny.

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