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		<title>By: Fliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 03:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok &#039;Sarah S&#039;, as you asked: You&#039;re a brain- dead conformist. You probably share a single brain cell with Falsum. You stupidly expect everyone to conform to a &#039;nicey nice&#039; submissive feminism. 

&#039;Someone who gave women a slight nod of concession has probably been sent running to the patriarical side.&#039;

Boo-hoo. Why do people have such a hard time with this being a blog that doesn&#039;t give a shit what men think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok &#8216;Sarah S&#8217;, as you asked: You&#8217;re a brain- dead conformist. You probably share a single brain cell with Falsum. You stupidly expect everyone to conform to a &#8216;nicey nice&#8217; submissive feminism. </p>
<p>&#8216;Someone who gave women a slight nod of concession has probably been sent running to the patriarical side.&#8217;</p>
<p>Boo-hoo. Why do people have such a hard time with this being a blog that doesn&#8217;t give a shit what men think?</p>
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		<title>By: nails</title>
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		<dc:creator>nails</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah S-Riiiiight. The war in Afghanistan means equality for women. You know, the ones that are still alive, unless their children or husbands get killed and their lives are ruined that way. There is lifelong injury and PTSD to consider, too. Our GI&#039;s rape women in every war, including this one. Or hey, maybe when bush started this war despite the projected starvation rate he just knew better than most folks that starving to death is really liberating for women. What a joke.

Not to mention that our government supported the especially woman oppressing faction of the previous war in Afghanistan in order to screw with godless commies and give Russia &quot;their Vietnam&quot;. This was post-vietnam, our officials knew that attempting to do this would mean ruining the country and destroying infrastructure. People were greatful for the taliban because they needed some kind of order after the invasion by russia. Any help we manage to give is making up for the mess that our country contributed to back then. We armed and trained those crazy people and now are using the fact that they are armed&amp;crazy as a reason to kill more innocent people there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah S-Riiiiight. The war in Afghanistan means equality for women. You know, the ones that are still alive, unless their children or husbands get killed and their lives are ruined that way. There is lifelong injury and PTSD to consider, too. Our GI&#8217;s rape women in every war, including this one. Or hey, maybe when bush started this war despite the projected starvation rate he just knew better than most folks that starving to death is really liberating for women. What a joke.</p>
<p>Not to mention that our government supported the especially woman oppressing faction of the previous war in Afghanistan in order to screw with godless commies and give Russia &#8220;their Vietnam&#8221;. This was post-vietnam, our officials knew that attempting to do this would mean ruining the country and destroying infrastructure. People were greatful for the taliban because they needed some kind of order after the invasion by russia. Any help we manage to give is making up for the mess that our country contributed to back then. We armed and trained those crazy people and now are using the fact that they are armed&amp;crazy as a reason to kill more innocent people there.</p>
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		<title>By: agasaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>agasaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A female veteran of Afghanistan doesn&#039;t understand the issue?  

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/04/06/afghanistan.law/   

Our service people are sworn to protect and defend our Constitution. Presumably, we are in Afghanistan to remove outlaws who attacked us here at home and allow Afghans to live by their constitution (reducing the threat of an extremist government to ourselves).

The above law about women was passed in violation of the &#039;equal rights&#039; granted the people of Afghanistan in their 1964 version of the constitution (see 

http://www.cic.nyu.edu/peacebuilding/oldpdfs/E22Womens%20RightsFullVersionNawabi.pdf )

to one segment of the male population for political balm.  Men can override laws anytime they wish for political or religious expediency. When the two are equivalent, laws cannot be changed since they are no longer of the people but designed by a higher power.  Currently, equal rights for women are a state, not a federally, defined matter as are marriage contracts (hence the invalidation of DOMA). Women lack national validation as equals although we can protect and defend our nation.  On that basis, the right to vote was decreased from 21 to 18 in a constitutional amendment (1971). 

There is no defense for pornography as a concept because it exploits (primarily, but not solely) females and children. Girls are consigned to the status of &#039;legal&#039; or &#039;not legal&#039; under the philosophy of porn or “When can I have them without being jailed or feeling guilty for panting after children?” Or have to high-tail it over to Asia to enjoy them?  Slavery today is a practice based in sex instead of labor as in  past centuries and even more prevalent.

 http://video.nytimes.com/video/2006/12/18/opinion/1194817092163/heartbreak-and-hope.html 

Consent to a life defined by sexual accessibility to the minds and bodies of males is not the same as meaningful consent in that the decision is life affirming and healthy. Consent to a form of &#039;death&#039;  isn&#039;t what feminism is about nor does it require reinforcement of those who argue it from that point of view. It&#039;s like arguing for a lower age to buy cigarettes.  Whatever the matter of legal privilege involved, it&#039;s going to hurt you and no amount of discussion will alter that fact.  Use of cigarettes remains subject to restrictions for the protection of non-smokers and kids; and it&#039;s okay to disapprove of tobacco. So, since the use of women for porn remains legal, like cigarettes, there&#039;s nothing a porn-loving male needs to complain about, is there?  Those who have lung cancer and those who have been sexually oppressed are not likely to politely reply to any insistence they be forced to &#039;inhale&#039; the second hand fumes from Camels or porn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A female veteran of Afghanistan doesn&#8217;t understand the issue?  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/04/06/afghanistan.law/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/04/06/afghanistan.law/</a>   </p>
<p>Our service people are sworn to protect and defend our Constitution. Presumably, we are in Afghanistan to remove outlaws who attacked us here at home and allow Afghans to live by their constitution (reducing the threat of an extremist government to ourselves).</p>
<p>The above law about women was passed in violation of the &#8216;equal rights&#8217; granted the people of Afghanistan in their 1964 version of the constitution (see </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cic.nyu.edu/peacebuilding/oldpdfs/E22Womens%20RightsFullVersionNawabi.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cic.nyu.edu/peacebuilding/oldpdfs/E22Womens%20RightsFullVersionNawabi.pdf</a> )</p>
<p>to one segment of the male population for political balm.  Men can override laws anytime they wish for political or religious expediency. When the two are equivalent, laws cannot be changed since they are no longer of the people but designed by a higher power.  Currently, equal rights for women are a state, not a federally, defined matter as are marriage contracts (hence the invalidation of DOMA). Women lack national validation as equals although we can protect and defend our nation.  On that basis, the right to vote was decreased from 21 to 18 in a constitutional amendment (1971). </p>
<p>There is no defense for pornography as a concept because it exploits (primarily, but not solely) females and children. Girls are consigned to the status of &#8216;legal&#8217; or &#8216;not legal&#8217; under the philosophy of porn or “When can I have them without being jailed or feeling guilty for panting after children?” Or have to high-tail it over to Asia to enjoy them?  Slavery today is a practice based in sex instead of labor as in  past centuries and even more prevalent.</p>
<p> <a href="http://video.nytimes.com/video/2006/12/18/opinion/1194817092163/heartbreak-and-hope.html" rel="nofollow">http://video.nytimes.com/video/2006/12/18/opinion/1194817092163/heartbreak-and-hope.html</a> </p>
<p>Consent to a life defined by sexual accessibility to the minds and bodies of males is not the same as meaningful consent in that the decision is life affirming and healthy. Consent to a form of &#8216;death&#8217;  isn&#8217;t what feminism is about nor does it require reinforcement of those who argue it from that point of view. It&#8217;s like arguing for a lower age to buy cigarettes.  Whatever the matter of legal privilege involved, it&#8217;s going to hurt you and no amount of discussion will alter that fact.  Use of cigarettes remains subject to restrictions for the protection of non-smokers and kids; and it&#8217;s okay to disapprove of tobacco. So, since the use of women for porn remains legal, like cigarettes, there&#8217;s nothing a porn-loving male needs to complain about, is there?  Those who have lung cancer and those who have been sexually oppressed are not likely to politely reply to any insistence they be forced to &#8216;inhale&#8217; the second hand fumes from Camels or porn.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ridicule [...] me all you want&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OK, if you say so!

I have not deleted SarahS&#039;s dear-god-what-about-the-men! comment because it is an example of one of my favorite species: the &#039;you should be nicer to dudes or they will be &quot;sent running to the patriarchal side&quot;&#039; argument.

Tell me, SarahS, do you believe men who drop by Savage Death Island expect me to entertain&#039;em with hula girls and a roast suckling pig? And unless I, who am suddenly the official Woman Ambassador to the Internet, shower them with diplomacy, these dudes will have no choice but to conclude that women totally deserve to be oppressed? In other words, patriarchy is the feminists&#039; fault?

Priceless. 

More hyberbolic delights: I am &quot;standing in a corner screaming&quot; (why would I do a thing like that? Are there no couches? No pitchers of margs? Am I in a Yoko Ono play?); comparing me (or the &quot;femensists&quot;) to a Jihadist (presumably the kind with guns and bombs); I &#039;love to hate&#039; men; and by not choosing to publish her comment I would be &quot;censoring&quot; SarahS.

This one&#039;s a weener!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ridicule [...] me all you want</p></blockquote>
<p>OK, if you say so!</p>
<p>I have not deleted SarahS&#8217;s dear-god-what-about-the-men! comment because it is an example of one of my favorite species: the &#8216;you should be nicer to dudes or they will be &#8220;sent running to the patriarchal side&#8221;&#8216; argument.</p>
<p>Tell me, SarahS, do you believe men who drop by Savage Death Island expect me to entertain&#8217;em with hula girls and a roast suckling pig? And unless I, who am suddenly the official Woman Ambassador to the Internet, shower them with diplomacy, these dudes will have no choice but to conclude that women totally deserve to be oppressed? In other words, patriarchy is the feminists&#8217; fault?</p>
<p>Priceless. </p>
<p>More hyberbolic delights: I am &#8220;standing in a corner screaming&#8221; (why would I do a thing like that? Are there no couches? No pitchers of margs? Am I in a Yoko Ono play?); comparing me (or the &#8220;femensists&#8221;) to a Jihadist (presumably the kind with guns and bombs); I &#8216;love to hate&#8217; men; and by not choosing to publish her comment I would be &#8220;censoring&#8221; SarahS.</p>
<p>This one&#8217;s a weener!</p>
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		<title>By: SarahS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SarahS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me a conformist if you like.

Falsum brought his opinions to the forum in a polite manner. He tried very hard to answer questions directed at him with further information, and he backed up his claims more than most.

He was met with hostility and rudeness. The few polite and insightful counter-arguments were outnumbered by unequivocally stating he was a rapist to impolite comments about his &quot;shrivled dick&quot;. The bulk of your arguments were of the same vein as his: &quot;I&#039;m right until you prove me wrong.&quot; Someone who gave women a slight nod of concession has probably been sent running to the patriarical side.

I agree when he says you are arguing yourself into impotence. The &quot;if I yell louder then I win the debate&quot; approach does not facilitate positive discourse.

Stating that the site is reserved for only hardcore anti-patriarchy femensists draws strong comparison to the difference between a Muslim and a Jihadist.

As a two time Afghanistan veteran I feel quite empowered and I, personally, will continue WORKING towards a future where women and men are equal, instead of just standing in a corner screaming.

Ridicule or censor me all you want, by saying my opinion is any less valid than your own you are no better than the dudes you love to hate so much.

Sarah-out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me a conformist if you like.</p>
<p>Falsum brought his opinions to the forum in a polite manner. He tried very hard to answer questions directed at him with further information, and he backed up his claims more than most.</p>
<p>He was met with hostility and rudeness. The few polite and insightful counter-arguments were outnumbered by unequivocally stating he was a rapist to impolite comments about his &#8220;shrivled dick&#8221;. The bulk of your arguments were of the same vein as his: &#8220;I&#8217;m right until you prove me wrong.&#8221; Someone who gave women a slight nod of concession has probably been sent running to the patriarical side.</p>
<p>I agree when he says you are arguing yourself into impotence. The &#8220;if I yell louder then I win the debate&#8221; approach does not facilitate positive discourse.</p>
<p>Stating that the site is reserved for only hardcore anti-patriarchy femensists draws strong comparison to the difference between a Muslim and a Jihadist.</p>
<p>As a two time Afghanistan veteran I feel quite empowered and I, personally, will continue WORKING towards a future where women and men are equal, instead of just standing in a corner screaming.</p>
<p>Ridicule or censor me all you want, by saying my opinion is any less valid than your own you are no better than the dudes you love to hate so much.</p>
<p>Sarah-out.</p>
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		<title>By: Guanyin8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guanyin8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can you please, please write on this?!

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/health/08hormone.html

I just read it and it reminded me of your post. It looks like they found that increased levels of testosterone inhibit the ability to trust, and from there they came to the conclusion that women are sexually complicated. Please, please help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can you please, please write on this?!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/health/08hormone.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/health/08hormone.html</a></p>
<p>I just read it and it reminded me of your post. It looks like they found that increased levels of testosterone inhibit the ability to trust, and from there they came to the conclusion that women are sexually complicated. Please, please help.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be way more apt, ivyleaves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be way more apt, ivyleaves.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He should defo change his name to Fosdick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He should defo change his name to Fosdick.</p>
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		<title>By: wiggles</title>
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		<dc:creator>wiggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Amananta

&#039;&lt;i&gt;In short, you have no way of knowing if that image you are happily wanking away to is an enslaved, drugged, abused child or not.&lt;/i&gt;&#039;

Remember Traci Lords? She&#039;s just lucky somebody found her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Amananta</p>
<p>&#8216;<i>In short, you have no way of knowing if that image you are happily wanking away to is an enslaved, drugged, abused child or not.</i>&#8216;</p>
<p>Remember Traci Lords? She&#8217;s just lucky somebody found her.</p>
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		<title>By: wiggles</title>
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		<dc:creator>wiggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;A woman who is subjected to violence at the hands of a man shouldn’t be blaming pornography, she should be blaming the violent man.&lt;/i&gt;

Each and every single incidence of male violence against women is an isolated one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A woman who is subjected to violence at the hands of a man shouldn’t be blaming pornography, she should be blaming the violent man.</i></p>
<p>Each and every single incidence of male violence against women is an isolated one.</p>
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