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		<title>By: Links links everywhere more links! &#171; Dissent of a Woman</title>
		<link>http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/06/09/citizens-of-the-poconos-unite-against-slutty-teen-rape-victims/#comment-189383</link>
		<dc:creator>Links links everywhere more links! &#171; Dissent of a Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] *Trigger warning* Rape, abuse Victim blaming hits a new new low.  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Because sometimes I rant like this &#171; Steph&#39;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Because sometimes I rant like this &#171; Steph&#39;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 21:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m not part of the &#8220;real world&#8221; yet, and that&#8217;s what concerns me even more. I have two men in my life, who are unalterably in my life and due to the nature of why they are there will always be there, who talk to me like nothing I say matters because I am a girl. It took me years to pinpoint was I was so HORRIBLY uncomfortable around them, and now that I know why, it just makes me incredibly angry. I excuse it because they are of and old school generation and that&#8217;s what they were taught and how they were raised and yadda yadda yadda, but frankly, it pisses me right the hell off. And more and more as I meet more people and see more of the world, I realise just how deeply ingrained some of the attitudes are across the board &#8211; not just in these two extreme examples. Not all guys are bad. Not all guys are disrespectful, and many will defend the rights of women just as strongly as they would their own rights. But what utterly breaks my heart is how many of my male friends, who are sweet and lovely and awesome to ME, talk about OTHER girls who are out of earshot in such terms as I simply cannot abide. It makes me sick. Truly. I can&#8217;t explain what I mean without sounding all feminist nazi, but the reality is that there are certain things in the way certain males speak and act which, when I notice it, worries me. And the reason it worries me is not because I&#8217;m concerned about the little things, but rather what the accumulation of little things leads to in those people who WILL take it to extremes. I read something today which made me sick, and frankly I advise against reading it yourself if you&#8217;re of the faint hearted: http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/06/09/citizens-of-the-poconos-unite-against-slutty-teen-rap... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m not part of the &#8220;real world&#8221; yet, and that&#8217;s what concerns me even more. I have two men in my life, who are unalterably in my life and due to the nature of why they are there will always be there, who talk to me like nothing I say matters because I am a girl. It took me years to pinpoint was I was so HORRIBLY uncomfortable around them, and now that I know why, it just makes me incredibly angry. I excuse it because they are of and old school generation and that&#8217;s what they were taught and how they were raised and yadda yadda yadda, but frankly, it pisses me right the hell off. And more and more as I meet more people and see more of the world, I realise just how deeply ingrained some of the attitudes are across the board &#8211; not just in these two extreme examples. Not all guys are bad. Not all guys are disrespectful, and many will defend the rights of women just as strongly as they would their own rights. But what utterly breaks my heart is how many of my male friends, who are sweet and lovely and awesome to ME, talk about OTHER girls who are out of earshot in such terms as I simply cannot abide. It makes me sick. Truly. I can&#8217;t explain what I mean without sounding all feminist nazi, but the reality is that there are certain things in the way certain males speak and act which, when I notice it, worries me. And the reason it worries me is not because I&#8217;m concerned about the little things, but rather what the accumulation of little things leads to in those people who WILL take it to extremes. I read something today which made me sick, and frankly I advise against reading it yourself if you&#8217;re of the faint hearted: <a href="http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/06/09/citizens-of-the-poconos-unite-against-slutty-teen-rap.." rel="nofollow">http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2010/06/09/citizens-of-the-poconos-unite-against-slutty-teen-rap..</a>. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ruby Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruby Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 03:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m resonating like a tuning fork to this tragic tale of the girl in Pennsylvania being cruelly and irrationally judged as a slut and a criminal because she got used as a secret girlfriend by an adult male perv.  

I was molested as a young child by a close relative.  I knew without having to be told that if I said anything about it, I would be shamed as a trouble-making liar.  Because such a dirty, twisted thing was simply not possible.  It hurt like hell to know that I would be considered a perpetrator in my own abuse, and it hurts like hell to see this girl being given the same treatment.  

I eventually found my way out of the purgatorial realm of the untold story.  I got help, and disclosed the abuse to my family, who reacted with the same accusatory denial as I had suspected they would.  But by this time, I had a support system, and friends in the same boat, and with their support, I was able to get past it.  I hope and pray this girl from Pennsylvania finds these same priceless gifts.  

So kudos and blessings to Joy, Kate, stickypaws, and the blametariat general.  Special thanks to you, Twisty, for this whole blog.  You are part of the miracle I lived without for too many years.  You are using your voices just like you spozed to, to tell and tell and tell.  Y’all rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m resonating like a tuning fork to this tragic tale of the girl in Pennsylvania being cruelly and irrationally judged as a slut and a criminal because she got used as a secret girlfriend by an adult male perv.  </p>
<p>I was molested as a young child by a close relative.  I knew without having to be told that if I said anything about it, I would be shamed as a trouble-making liar.  Because such a dirty, twisted thing was simply not possible.  It hurt like hell to know that I would be considered a perpetrator in my own abuse, and it hurts like hell to see this girl being given the same treatment.  </p>
<p>I eventually found my way out of the purgatorial realm of the untold story.  I got help, and disclosed the abuse to my family, who reacted with the same accusatory denial as I had suspected they would.  But by this time, I had a support system, and friends in the same boat, and with their support, I was able to get past it.  I hope and pray this girl from Pennsylvania finds these same priceless gifts.  </p>
<p>So kudos and blessings to Joy, Kate, stickypaws, and the blametariat general.  Special thanks to you, Twisty, for this whole blog.  You are part of the miracle I lived without for too many years.  You are using your voices just like you spozed to, to tell and tell and tell.  Y’all rule.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Andrist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Andrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That this makes me want to vomit is no surprise. Maybe she&#039;s lucky she&#039;s in Pennsylvania, not Texas. Otherwise, she&#039;d have been charged with prostitution by now. Maybe we should feel grateful or something.

...Nope. Not feeling it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That this makes me want to vomit is no surprise. Maybe she&#8217;s lucky she&#8217;s in Pennsylvania, not Texas. Otherwise, she&#8217;d have been charged with prostitution by now. Maybe we should feel grateful or something.</p>
<p>&#8230;Nope. Not feeling it.</p>
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		<title>By: sometimes, asses need to be kicked &#171; Fangirl Saves the World</title>
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		<dc:creator>sometimes, asses need to be kicked &#171; Fangirl Saves the World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I won&#8217;t repeat them here, I don&#8217;t want that filth on my blog. Twisty does a good job documenting and dissecting the kind of shit that&#8217;s being said; shit like she should be charged with… I don&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I won&#8217;t repeat them here, I don&#8217;t want that filth on my blog. Twisty does a good job documenting and dissecting the kind of shit that&#8217;s being said; shit like she should be charged with… I don&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tinfoil hattie, thank you.

delphyne, when I said &quot;it&#039;s not relevant&quot; I was not clear.

If this girl did put the pencil into herself, gripped it with her own hand, etc., it was CLEARLY NEVER her own idea. Some asshole told her to do it, and stood watching to make sure she did it. There was no way she thought it up on her own, or would have done it on her own.

He probably said, &quot;If your mom finds out what you did, she&#039;ll kill you.&quot;
&quot;If you have a baby, everyone will know what a slut you are.&quot;
&quot;No one will ever love you if they know.&quot;

It&#039;s almost worse if she held it herself under his &quot;guidance&quot; and &quot;direction.&quot; Because now I&#039;m sure she&#039;s blaming herself, and will for the rest of her already probably-ruined life.

I&#039;m pretty sure I know (not exactly, but close enough in terms of empathy) how shitty it is and is going to be for this child. You know those scripts I wrote above, from the rapist? Other than the one about having a baby (I was too young), that is what my molesting cousin (25 years old to my 5) told me.

There is no way to sugarcoat or gloss over that this little girl had an unfathomably cruel experience and is not going to turn out all right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tinfoil hattie, thank you.</p>
<p>delphyne, when I said &#8220;it&#8217;s not relevant&#8221; I was not clear.</p>
<p>If this girl did put the pencil into herself, gripped it with her own hand, etc., it was CLEARLY NEVER her own idea. Some asshole told her to do it, and stood watching to make sure she did it. There was no way she thought it up on her own, or would have done it on her own.</p>
<p>He probably said, &#8220;If your mom finds out what you did, she&#8217;ll kill you.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;If you have a baby, everyone will know what a slut you are.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;No one will ever love you if they know.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost worse if she held it herself under his &#8220;guidance&#8221; and &#8220;direction.&#8221; Because now I&#8217;m sure she&#8217;s blaming herself, and will for the rest of her already probably-ruined life.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure I know (not exactly, but close enough in terms of empathy) how shitty it is and is going to be for this child. You know those scripts I wrote above, from the rapist? Other than the one about having a baby (I was too young), that is what my molesting cousin (25 years old to my 5) told me.</p>
<p>There is no way to sugarcoat or gloss over that this little girl had an unfathomably cruel experience and is not going to turn out all right.</p>
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		<title>By: delphyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>delphyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;She may have technically put the pencil into her own self, no one knows and it’s not relevant&quot;

It is relevant.  It&#039;s a massive assault on her body.  I think the rapist did it, and she might be protecting him in some way.  He was there when it happened.  He&#039;s the one person we know who is happy to physically assault this child&#039;s body.  The evidence points to him not her.

Maybe people don&#039;t want to think how bad it possibly got for this girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She may have technically put the pencil into her own self, no one knows and it’s not relevant&#8221;</p>
<p>It is relevant.  It&#8217;s a massive assault on her body.  I think the rapist did it, and she might be protecting him in some way.  He was there when it happened.  He&#8217;s the one person we know who is happy to physically assault this child&#8217;s body.  The evidence points to him not her.</p>
<p>Maybe people don&#8217;t want to think how bad it possibly got for this girl.</p>
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		<title>By: tinfoil hattie</title>
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		<dc:creator>tinfoil hattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joy, I&#039;m so sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joy, I&#8217;m so sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha Maus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha Maus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only there was some personal savage death island sanctuary for her to go to. and an -altogether -other sort of savage dealth island for him, if you get my Australian accented, cut him loose with all the  Autralian savage death island flora and fauna we do so well drift. 

And Australia does savage death island quite well, from red back spiders, funnel wed spiders, scorpions ( although , Jill, yours are bigger),  dead in 3 minutes- jelly fish, man eating sharks, red bellied black snakes, , etc etc. 

The gympie gympie stinging tree is not deadly but its neurotoxin remains active for years and is said to be so painful it that it drives some victims mad enough to try to cut off the affected limb.  I can see where some blamers might be tempted to go with this...
Martha Maus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only there was some personal savage death island sanctuary for her to go to. and an -altogether -other sort of savage dealth island for him, if you get my Australian accented, cut him loose with all the  Autralian savage death island flora and fauna we do so well drift. </p>
<p>And Australia does savage death island quite well, from red back spiders, funnel wed spiders, scorpions ( although , Jill, yours are bigger),  dead in 3 minutes- jelly fish, man eating sharks, red bellied black snakes, , etc etc. </p>
<p>The gympie gympie stinging tree is not deadly but its neurotoxin remains active for years and is said to be so painful it that it drives some victims mad enough to try to cut off the affected limb.  I can see where some blamers might be tempted to go with this&#8230;<br />
Martha Maus</p>
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		<title>By: Jezebella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jezebella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just remembered that almost all the anti-choicer fetus-worshipers will concede a woman&#039;s right to abort in the case of incest and rape, but here&#039;s the thing: they also feel they get to decide what is rape and what isn&#039;t, and 99.9999% of the time, the howling mob of woman-haters doesn&#039;t believe a rape occurred.  It&#039;s a total set-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just remembered that almost all the anti-choicer fetus-worshipers will concede a woman&#8217;s right to abort in the case of incest and rape, but here&#8217;s the thing: they also feel they get to decide what is rape and what isn&#8217;t, and 99.9999% of the time, the howling mob of woman-haters doesn&#8217;t believe a rape occurred.  It&#8217;s a total set-up.</p>
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